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That's an oldy but goody. Takes me back to 1976 in 5th grade.

At least we didn't resign Edmunds to a ridiculous contract. But our drafts have certainly not been good enough under Beane. Basham, Ford, Moss to name a few.

I think you summed it up perfectly. The team gets no energy from its coaching staff. And they don't out scheme anyone. Josh is still a baller. But needs to get the ball to Kincaid Shakir and Harty more. All 3 can run. And Josh himself needs to run more. The Dolphins are a lot of style and not much substance. Their defense is still nothing special. But I am sure a lot of teams are saying that about us as well now. Hopefully we can get it turned around tonite and then next week in Cincinnati. If not, time to blow it all up.

You summed it up perfectly SC. It seems like Oliver is nicked up every year. Playing DT at his size is a disadvantage. The Bucs offense is lousy. We should not give up more then 10 points at home to them.

If things continue to spiral downward, I think Diggs will implode and definitely want out after this season. I don't think he is a McDermott fan. We still don't know what happened at Mini Camp when he left for a day after talking w McDermott. I am sure Diggs would love to play for an offensive minded head coach. I am sure he likes Josh. But he is a smart guy. Been in the league for 9 years now. He knows how offenses work. You don't think he sees what KC has done w Andy Reid, Mahomes and Kelce. He is our Kelce. Josh is our Mahomes. And the missing piece is.....

Klein is better then Dodson. He is not great in pass coverage. But he still moves better then Dodson who has as much lateral movement as a kiosk, is tough, can pass rush and lay the wood. I thought our D looked soft against the Pats. Milano brought the attitude and toughness for the defense, and he did it well. Poyer and Hyde try. But when the attitude is generated by your aging safeties in today's game, we have a problem. This is not the era of Ronnie Lott and Brian Dawkins laying people out. Klein can certainly help.

Very true Gunner. Phillips, Settle, Ford and Vickers were trash. That's on Beane for filling the roster with crap. Have we even drafted a DT since Ed Oliver?

You are the man SCBills. Your posts are always reasonable and make sense. I agree exactly about the offense. Davis and certainly Knox are not explosive players. Get Shakir Kincaid Harty and Sherfield involved. All 4 can run. Its criminal the way this offense is set up. Get Cook out in open space as well. And speed up the tempo. We plod to the line of scrimmage, and can barely get plays off in 40 seconds. Get Josh running more. When our offense is humming, we can be unstoppable. But playing at such a slow pace puts no stress on the defense. Good defense is great. But this is an offensive age. The Vikings won last night because they attacked the 49er defense. Kirk Cousins wasn't dinking and dunking. He was throwing darts 15-20 yards down the field where his WR's could run after the catch. And make Kincaid a big part of the game plan. Just like Hockenson was for the Vikings. Other then Diggs he is our best receiver on the team. We need to blow the doors off of Tampa. And then go into Cinci with an aggressive offensive game plan. We play small ball they will bury us like they did last year. And we will be looked at as pretenders. In general this coaching staff has been the teams biggest weakness over the past several years. They have come up small for the most part. They can change that perception over the next 10 games. Or be done with.

Everyone is talking about the Minnesota-San Fran game as a comparison to the Buffalo-New England game. The game last night was a great game. Both teams competed hard with Minnesota getting the big pick on Purdy at the end. I thought Kirk Cousins was a baller last night standing strong in the face of a strong pass rush and hitting everything down the field. Purdy looked good as well. But not as good as Cousins. Even thought the 49ers lost, they played with much better effort then the Bills did at New England. The Bills-Pats game was hard to watch coming off the Giants-Bills game. And the stinker in London. The season certainly isn't over. But the team does not have a look of a champion. Can they get it turned around? Sure. Is it likely? We shall see in the next two weeks. We should beat the Bucs by 30+ points. Their offense is terrible. But the real test will be Cincinnati. Joe Burrow is one cool customer. And they have a talented roster, regardless of their record. I think their coaching is better then ours. This coaching staff should not have goodwill from our fanbase. McDermott led us to the playoffs to break the draught in 2017. So what!! The offensive game plan that day was awful. We scored 3 points. We have disappointed throughout the playoffs under this regime. McDermott has taken no ownership and accountability for the 13 second fiasco. The players will never forget that. And neither will the fans. That being said, we can turn things around. But there certainly needs to be some emotion shown by everyone in the Bills organization (besides Stefan Diggs) come Thursday night. The vibe of the team since stepping on the field in London has been off. That needs to change come Thursday night. And it had better be a whole lot different when we play Cinci next week. If not, you have to really question whether the McDermott regime has run its course.

We have not been prepared to play the last 3 weeks. It's that simple. We sleepwalked through the first half on offense 3 weeks in a row with nothing changing. That's on the coaching staff. We came out against the Jets the same way to start the season. With a player as talented as Josh Allen, everything should go through him. He looks almost disinterested at times now. We can barely get a play off in time without the 40 second clock running out. We finally threw to Kincaid over 10 yards down the field today. The kid looked good. He is a first round pick. It took til week 7 to throw a vertical pass to him. They had to watch the film of him at Utah, otherwise why would they have drafted him? What the hell is going on? This coaching staff has sucked the life out of this team. And combined with the injuries on defense and a tough schedule coming up, things could get ugly real quick. We need a huge performance against Tampa to get some confidence. And then going into Cinci the coaches need to dial up a big time game plan, otherwise we could be embarrassed. And if that happened, I would can McDermott after the game.

That sums it up DM. The D line especially in the middle was getting manhandled most of the game. Not sure how you can construct a roster with only 2 good DT's. Injuries happen every game at every level of football. Phillips Settle and Ford are all lousy. We have no young guys who are up and comers, that can back up Oliver and D Jones??!! That is terrible roster construction. Settle has been a huge bust like Jefferson and the other big DT we signed as a free agent a few years ago. And Jordan Phillips is done. Does absolutely nothing at this point. Our LB's are small. Bernard and Williams can move. But neither are fierce tacklers. And they are young. They will get better. But we need more physicality at the position. The toughest tackler on the defense without Milano playing is probably Taron Johnson who is maybe 5'8. That will not work all game, or all season. The clock is ticking on his next injury. A little man taking on bigger men will only last so long. (You can be a black belt all you want, but if I bring a gun to the fight I like my chances regardless if I know martial arts or not.) And speaking of Taron, (who I think is a hell of a football player) why is he covering Mike Geseki one on one at the end of the game? That is a horrible matchup period. McDermott could be fired just for allowing that. Some serious self evaluation needs to happen real quick for this team over the next 4 days. Because Baker Mayfield is coming in. And while he is nothing special. He thinks he is. And thinks he can beat any team on any given day.

That's a very astute post. We don't have one above average O lineman on the roster. They were awful today for the most part in pass protection.. Our OT's are terrible relative to other teams w good QB's Dawkins at best is average. And Brown is bad most games. Knox would not be a starter on almost every NFL team. He is a back up. And the D line was lousy today also. Settle Phillips and Ford should not be on an NFL roster at this point. They were steamrolled in the middle today. Guys like Phillips and Lawson are not the guys you want playing if you are thinking a deep playoff run. Good guys. Marginal NFL talent at this point in their careers. The talent level on the team is just not that great. And losing Tre Milano D Jones and Oliver is brutal. As they are 4 of the most talented players we have.

I think that is a good start. He lost the team after 13 seconds. That was bad enough. But not accepting any accountability for what happened, was his death knell. Team looks lost and lifeless for big stretches. We came off a 28 point win against MIami with 3 terrible performances. That should never happen with Josh Allen as our QB. Letting Mack Jones shred us today especially on the last drive is unacceptable.

I am not whining clown. The offense was ***** 3 out of 6 games this year. And you are agreeing with me.

Shakir and Kincaid could move the chains if we played them in the slot and had them run routes in the middle of the field like Beasley used to. Get Knox on the bench. He has bad hands and doesn't run well. Go with Kincaid Shakir Davis and Diggs with Cook or Murray in the backfield as our regular offense and the offense would be much more fluid. Knox slows the entire offense down. Teams that run a lot of 12 personnel usually have 2 TE's that can get down the field. I think back to the old Patriots of Gronk and Hernandez. I think that Morris has more upside then Knox at this point.

I agree. The guy is tough, big and reasonably fast. We would do well to keep him for a couple more years in the RB committee. A class act leader type of veteran. These are the kinds of guys that are the glue to championship type teams.

Look at his stats against Notre Dame last week. Sure he is a talent. But so was Bryce Young. And he looks totally overmatched at the NFL level. The hype machine on college QB's is ridiculous. Its a totally different game playing QB in college versus the pros. Very few guys coming out of college live up to the hype that the NFL offseason leading up to the draft presents. Look at the quarterbacking in the NFL on the whole. Its pretty awful right now. Most NFL games are barely watchable right now from an offensive standpoint. Broncos-Chiefs last Thursday nite. Even w Mahomes. It was 19-8. Bills-Giants even w Josh Allen was 14-9. And those are the two most talented QB's in the NFL. Jags-Saints tonite will be a grinder too. Its painful watching Derrick Carr play QB.

That's all fine and good. But they are wasting the talent of Kincaid having him staying in to block and chip DE's. If they wanted a guy to do what Kincaid has been doing, they should have just kept Tommy Sweeney for that matter and drafted a stud OT in the first round to play next to Torrence. Lousy roster management. Lousy scheme. Lousy play calling. The biggest weakness on this year's Buffalo Bills besides the unfortunate injuries is the coaching of the offense. And more specifically the coaching by our OC. We are running an offense from the 1980's.

That's a great analysis of the refereeing in the game. I thought the roughing against Josh when we were driving was a weak call against the Jags. But I also thought the call against Poyer was weak. Lighting up a WR used to be a big part of the game. Unless you lead with your helmet into his face, I think its a fair play. I did not think it was egregious contact. The PI on Taron Johnson down the sideline was crap too. He did not impede the receiver from making a play on the ball. The ball was underthrown. Referee Sean Smith is lousy. His crew always calls a lot of penalties. And there is usually a lot of confusion when he refs a game. I don't like the guy. The game was way over officiated. We just got nothing call wise in the game. What about losing the challenge on the pass over the middle that was called complete? Guy went to the ground and lost the ball. How was that ruled a catch? (I was in a bar in Detroit watching the game and the sound on the TV was not loud. And there were a lot of Lions' fans pregaming.) Way too many illegal hands to the face and illegal man downfield penalties being called in general this year. Let these guys play unless the penalty is egregious. Its big and fast men playing a physical game. Let them have at it. The refereeing on the whole is pretty lousy in how games overall are officiated in today's NFL.

Good point on the lack of pre snap motion in our offense. McDermott has a lot on his plate leading the defense. And especially w all the injuries. But the man is our head coach. I sure hope he looks at the offensive film and has a heart to heart w Dorsey about changing things up some going forward. You can have great players. But everyone gets paid to out scheme each other in the NFL. Most coaching staffs are pretty good at figuring things out after a while if you do not change things up. (Except for the Washington Commanders)

Our offensive scheme is terrible. We draft a stud TE in the first round and he hasn't been thrown one ball more then 10 yards down the field in 5 games. His avg distance of passes caught is under 4 yards. He is used exactly like Knox, who is a mediocre athlete w below avg hands. Sherfield Shakir and Harty all can make plays, but they are either not on the field or not thrown to down the field. The offense should be ashamed of what took place against the Jaguars. We have the most talented QB in the NFL hands down, and we are throwing 3 yard outs for almost the entire first half. Shame on Ken Dorsey. His play calling and scheme is a joke. They want to handcuff Josh Allen into a Trent Edwards Teddy Bridgewater clone. That does not win in the NFL. Watch what the 49ers do with their passing game. All crossing patterns DOWN the field. I was disgusted by the offensive game plan against the Jags. We should have been up by at least 21-11 at halftime w the ability of this offense. And ran away and hid in the second half. This was the same garbage we saw against the Jets. Dorsey coaches scared anytime we play a solid defense. We can still have a great season regardless of who is playing defense for us. But get rid of the 5 yard out passes. They don't work in today's NFL. You need at least 3 guys running at least 15 yards down the field on every pass play. You have to pressure the opposing defense. Secondaries are not that good. Kincaid not running vertically is shocking to me. If I am Brandon Beane I have a meeting w Dorsey and McDermott and explain why we drafted Kincaid in the 1st round. And btw Josh looked absolutely disgusted w how the game played out in the second half. I can't imagine he doesn't have a say in how the offense is run.

Hands down the worst of the bunch is Rivera. The team barely tries under him. Giving up 40 pts to the Bears at home is a joke. And kicking the FG on 4th and 3 in the second half when down after that great run by Howell lost the team. And btw that new owner Harris is a joke. Laughing in the owners box when your team is losing to the Bears. Not a good look. Can't imagine Ralph ever looking happy when the Bills were losing.

I could not agree with you more Utah. I watched Edmonds the entire second half. He is terrible. Does nothing. Just floats around in the middle of the field. I give him 2 years at most w the Bears. Heck, I could see him on the bench by the latter part of the season. The guy is not long for the NFL. Bills did right letting him go. Bernard is a much better player.

You think he was better then Fitzie? Why are we bringing back guys from the draught era anyways? They won nothing. Isn't it enough to just go and root for a championship caliber team in the present? All the extra is just that extra. There are a few draught era guys who played like champions. Kyle Williams, Fred Jackson, Terrance McGhee and maybe Aaron Schobel come to mind. But the organization should be focused on the present unless they are putting someone on the Wall. As for Orton, he had his moments. But the slide was weak. Just like Cam Newton not diving for the fumble against the Broncos in the Super Bowl.

Its a long business trip Gunner. We aren't going across the pond until Friday. We have a lot of veterans. This team will be prepared. I see Lawrence going down hard. Bills win going away 34-17.