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1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:
Been doing this for a month. He even hesitates to take off running now. He used to see a lane and take off. He justvlooks different, very tight. I pray they do something to get him back to playing free and loose
I thought it was interesting - after the NE loss, Allen said something like, "Maybe I need to stop thinking and just play." Then came out against TB looking phenomenal, making quick decisions, getting the ball to the right guy right away, etc. That went away a bit in the second half as we basically turtled on offense. Allen didn't look exactly the same on our first drive last night, but he looked really good and so did the offense as a whole. Then it was basically nothing until mid/late fourth quarter.
Us outsiders can never know for sure, but I think most of it comes down to the coaching staff. Daboll's offense had some of the same issues as Dorsey, but they didn't "stick" like this - we'd have a bad game or two, but nothing where the QB & HC are both mystified in their postgame pressers. Was Daboll better at giving Allen feedback in a way that got Allen to actually change what he's doing? Is McDermott constantly trying to turn us into the Parcells Giants once we get a lead, and Daboll was able to say no in a way that Dorsey can't? Is Dorsey a bad play caller? Is Dorsey not detail-oriented enough to notice and work on fixing every single problem with the offense? (I'm thinking of things like the route combination problems that Kurt Warner called out in one of his videos a few weeks ago.)
I think it's probably some combination of the above. I don't want to absolve Allen of the blame here - there's a lot of improvements he can (and needs to) make. But it's the coaches' jobs to help players make those improvements. If the player is trying and not succeeding, to me it falls on the coaching staff.
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Now that it’s official and Elam is indeed a healthy scratch, I’ve gotta think (hope?) that there’s a trade market for Elam and he’ll be shipped out in the next few days. Player for player trades maybe?
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9 hours ago, julian said:
If the Bills roll the Patriots again, can we all agree to stop coming up with reasons why we should be worried prior to playing them in the future.
I mean, weren’t they both 52 or 53 yarders? That’s probably not much over 50% at best, considering the venue and weather. Getting tails twice in a row isn’t cause for concern. Obviously neither miss helped anyone’s stress level at the time, but neither one looked to me like a full-on shank. Both looked live like okay kicks when a really good kick was needed.-
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43 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
FWIW, Banged Up Bills analysis of injuries
"stinger" for Cam Lewis
Concussion/neck sprain for Damien Harris
He thinks Allen has AC Joint sprain
He points out that Allen's completion percentage dropped when he was recovering from an AC joint sprain on his non-throwing shoulder in 2020. But, he expects Josh to get pain control and tape/bracing and play through it.
Thanks for the summary. I don’t have the time for breakdown videos, so it’s great to get the gist from someone who watched the whole thing. -
11 hours ago, Beck Water said:
To date, Lawson has had a surprising (to me) large share of snaps - 96 (45%). Jonathan only has 19 (9%).
So in terms of playing time/contribution to date, you're certainly correct about the rank order.
But I think it's possible that @Cash is correct and the Bills may go with 5 DT, 6 DE for now, and take 1 less guy at CB.
Part of my thinking is that they may want to let Miller ramp up but not find themselves short-handed if someone gets dinged.
Basically, the Bills 53 man roster at the start of the season was full at DL (without Miller) and over-subscribed at DB. I think that was the Bills way of deferring decisions at CB (as well as acknowledging that injuries happen and may make a decision for them).
So what I'm thinking is that they may let the roster be over-subscribed at DE and normal at CB for a bit and see what happens.
Yeah, I mean Shaq is playing and Kingsley isn’t, so obviously he’s ahead today. But keep in mind that Shaq’s snap counts have been inflated by playing in garbage time the last 3 weeks. When Von is back and actually ready to play, someone at DE will have to play less, and I think that’s Shaq. Kingsley already doesn’t play, but they weren’t willing to cut him in preseason and I don’t think that’ll change now.
As for Lawson? I think they only cut him if they really need the spot. I don’t think they’d cut him just to sign a CB who’ll be inactive on game day. (And if they sign another CB but keep Elam as a healthy scratch, I’ll be shocked.)
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8 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Why do you think that?
I looked for something better as a point of discussion and gave up, but this will do
Different teams do things a bit differently, but there's a numbers game on the roster.
The Bills roster breaks down:
QB - 2
RB- 3
FB-1
OL- 10
TE - 3
WR - 5
Total 24
DE - 5 (+ need to add Von Miller within 21 days)
DT - 5
LB - 5
CB - 7 (now 6 with Tre headed to IR)
S - 4
Total 26
Specialist - 3
Now I can't tell you what the Bills are going to do. But we just lost a DT off our practice squad in Ankou.
So would it really make sense to cut Ford (leaving us with 4 DT, and no backup if one of them is injured), in order to run with 6 DE?
Just as a numbers game in maintaining a balanced roster with options in case of injury, I don't see it.
We've been running with 1 more CB than we normally would. I think we may just not sign another CB and let Miller take Tre's spot, if they like Jonathan enough that they don't want to risk him to waivers.
I tend to agree. I think they’re comfortable at CB for at least a few weeks. Elam has been a healthy scratch, so he’s basically taking Tre’s gameday roster spot. And if the Bills want more safety net, they have 3 call-ups each for the two CBs on the practice squad.
So I think one of the options the Bills are thinking about is just swapping Tre for Miller. Unless they already IR’d Tre and signed someone else and I missed it - in that case, I think Shaq Lawson would be the most likely cut. I think the Bills would hope to get Shaq back on the practice squad, but would also be willing to part ways with him if necessary.
Lawson is probably better than Kingsley Jonathan right now, or at least the coaches trust him more. But I don’t think Lawson got much interest this past offseason, and he might be willing to stick around in case of injury.
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Great post, as always! I was very impressed by the Bills yesterday. Special props to Dorsey - the play calling was about as good as I’ve seen, and he and Allen seemed to be perfectly on the same page.
There was a 3rd and 2 fairly early on where we had a wide open receiver in the flat who easily picked up the first. Those are the kind of easy money plays that guys like Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan have made careers off of. IMO, they’ve generally been lacking in our offense, especially since Daboll left. That one yesterday was very encouraging and I hope to see more like it.
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14 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
I didn't know what to expect of Harty but I agree, he's been disappointing. It might have something to do with Dorsey (sooner or later I always come back to Dorsey!). A guy like Harty has to get the ball in stride and in space that allows get up to speed before he has to deal with tacklers. Instead, he seems to get the same opportunities that didn't work for McKenzie, either.
As for Bernard, I hate to bring up a sore subject, but I told you so. I mean, I had the same doubts that many people had here. What I also had, that many people didn't, is confidence in McDermott and Beane. If Bernard were as bad as we thought he was, McDermott and Beane would have done something to get help. They did nothing, and as I suspected, they did nothing because they knew the defense would be fine with Bernard in the middle. They brought in Kirksey to be a veteran backup, not to take the starting job.
Did I expect him to be the guy we saw on Sunday? No. The Cover One video breakdown of him shows some amazing talent, both physical and mental.
I'm very much still not sold on Dorsey*. Too small a sample size to draw a conclusion yet, but there's evidence that he might struggle with getting playmakers in space. McKenzie was fairly disappointing last year, as was Nyheim Hines on offense. Hines only got the ball on like 2 gimmick plays a game, and they almost never worked. This year it's Harty only getting the ball on gimmick plays that don't work. Whereas under Daboll, McKenzie mostly got the ball on gimmick plays, but they mostly worked.
Either we need better gimmick plays, or we need to find a way to get the ball to these guys as part of the normal offense. I don't know how to do that, but that's okay because it's not my job. It *is* Ken Dorsey's job, and it's fair to hold him to it.
*General note: I worry that what someone heard was, "Dorsey sucks," but what I said was, "I'm not sold on Dorsey." I don't think he sucks, or McDermott would've fired him after last year - plenty of promising candidates would want to run Josh Allen's offense. But there's plenty of room for Dorsey to be Just Okay or A Little Below Average without being a net positive for the team. Dorsey was not a net positive last year and I'm looking for improvement this year. If I don't see it, I'll be a Fire Dorsey guy this offseason. I expect that plenty of promising OC candidates would want to work with Josh Allen.
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I was also at this game, and second/third the sentiments about the crowd. We were on the Bills’ side, and it seemed about 80% blue in the crowd. The opposite side probably about 40% blue, and I think about 50-60% Bills fans overall.
There were a few Washington 3rd downs where it was genuinely loud in there, and almost no times where it was loud while the Bills were on offense. There was one Bills third down in the second half where they played a GET LOUD graphic on the scoreboard, and you could practically hear a pin drop. Very fun game to attend all in all.
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I’ll be at the game with some of my DC friends I’m visiting. They’re mostly agnostic for this game but will be supporting the Bills. We might check out the tailgate scene if anyone can suggest a lot to hit up. Otherwise we’re planning on going into the Legends Plaza or whatever and just overpaying for food and drink.
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6 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:
Apparently I woke up in the mood to sharpshoot the basic fundamental errors of "professionals."
Not:
WAS v BUF
BAL v IND
NYJ v NE
But:
BUF @ WAS
IND @ BAL
NE @ NYJ
I guess writing isn't his forte?
He’s not very sharp. He THINKS he is (hence his stage name), but he isn’t.-
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Do we think this impacts the timeline of Kirksey getting called up to the active roster?
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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
The touchdown still came a play where we were not lined up. But post snap Bernard has been decent enough through two games. And that is all we needed.
Hoping the alignment issues are just lack of time on task from the time he missed in pre-season.
Whether that or otherwise, it’s pretty reasonable to expect those issues to improve as the season goes on. Bernard is a 2nd year player who made his 2nd career start today. -
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On 9/4/2023 at 7:57 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
my favorite Peter king prediction:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ff4sglktjk0381.jpg
That pick could've become Ron Dayne!!!
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12-5. I think 13-4 is more likely than 11-5.
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Love the topic! My dumb takes:
1) Kincaid - Good pick. Possibly great if he hits his ceiling.
2) Torrence - Good pick; will start every year of his rookie deal if he stays healthy
3) Williams - I honestly have no idea.
4) Shorter - Mediocre pick. Feels like he winds up a core special teamer for a while and maybe has like 1 game where he contributes as a receiver. But we're getting to the point in the draft where that's a win for the team.
7) Broeker - Good pick, based solely on there being 5 waiver claims for him. He probably lasts in the NFL through his rookie deal, which is a definite win in the 7th round.
7) Austin - Good pick, based solely on him getting claimed off waivers. I'm less confident he plays out his whole rookie deal though.
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17 hours ago, Virgil said:
This is going to sound terrible, but I'm so afraid of him going off this year since he's due for a new contract.
The guys who find a way to finally put it all together in the last year drives me nuts
True. But on the flip side, many of those guys regress back to their average once they get paid. Getting a monster year of production, then a 3rd round comp pick, can wind up easing the pain a lot.-
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1 hour ago, freddyjj said:
Well I guess the consolation prize for all the fans trying to wish and hope Isabella onto the roster is that he made PS and can be activated for the first 4 games if Shorter/Shakir go to short term IR.
For the life of me I cannot make sense of the supposed ST prowess he exhibits. Nothing at all in preseason, save for a fumble that popped into a team mates hands, and certainly nothing as a pro or even at UMass.
Not a returner, not a gunner or up back either. Probably why he didn't make the 53.
True, but he's also shown pretty much nothing as a receiver, both with the Cardinals and in this preseason.
I don't mind him being on the practice squad - he's fast even by NFL standards, and fast guys have some value even when they can't really play. (See also Foster, Robert.) But I never bought the training camp hype for a second. I think part of the problem was that once he got a positive review in a couple of camp reports, fans (who've heard of him, and find they're rooting for him even if they can't put their finger on why) started tweeting at reporters asking about Isabella. From there, reporters started asking about Isabella in press conferences with McDermott & Allen. The answers were pretty standard generically positive stuff, but gave the reports some positive-sounding quotes to include in their articles, tweets, etc. Then the fans read the articles and become convinced that 1.) Isabella was charging up the depth chart, and 2.) Isabella would immediately be signed by another team if we cut him.
On the PS front itself, I'm happy about the Kirksey signing. He takes one of our 6 veteran spots, but won't be there for long.
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2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
I think they got it right Sternberger has the better known name. Wilson looked like the better player IMO
Agreed. Wilson looked decent in the last preseason game. Kind of a Gilliam lite.
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4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Eric Wood started at OG.
There are a lot of OL between the Basham pick and the Brown pick worthy of being picked. I can’t get too mad because DE was definitely weak and we needed multiple younger players at the position. Basham was a good prospect.
I was fine with the Rousseau/Basham combo at the time. Basically thinking that outside of the top 10, DEs are a very high risk proposition - if a pass rushing DE is a sure thing, he gets drafted in the top 10. If a guy has red flags but could be amazing, he still usually goes no later than the teens. So my thought was that drafting 2 DEs high gave us a decent chance of at least 1 of them hitting. And I'm very optimistic about Rousseau being a hit, so by that logic the strategy was a success overall. Not a big success, obviously.
(If I'd done any serious draft homework that year and knew how good a prospect Humprey was, I think I would've felt differently.)
With that said, it's still fair and accurate to look at the Basham pick on its own and judge it as a failure.
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34 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:
I think people are just commenting on this trade because its a tacit admission by the FO that they blew this pick. The "averages 2 sacks a year" part is exactly why it's relevant.
Exactly. Props to the Bills for having the guts, but this is unquestionably an admission of failure on their part. A 2nd round pick at a premium position with 2 years of cost control on his contract is an asset on paper. If the Bills thought there was a realistic chance that Boogie would live up to his potential, they wouldn't let him go for just a late round pick swap.
19 minutes ago, Dr. K said:Maybe, while acknowledging that it was a poor draft pick, we might give them credit for cutting Basham loose if they have other players who can do what he does. A better move than to fall prey to the Sunk Cost fallacy.
Tentatively agreed, but it ultimately matters whether the Bills are right or wrong. If Boogie puts up 10 sacks for the Giants this year, the Bills should be heavily criticized for essentially giving him away. (Now I think it's unlikely that happens, but that's why they play the games.) As one of the last "Isaiah Hodgins can be a good player" holdouts, it was a bummer watching him break out last year while we were stuck with Jake Kumerow as our top outside WR backup. And obviously no Bills fan was psyched to see Wyatt Teller turn into an all-star in Cleveland. I don't expect a repeat here with Basham, but if it did happen? The Bills would and should be raked over the coals at that point.
On the other hand, if Boogie is completely invisible for the next 2 years, then I salute the Bills for admitting their mistake and moving on.
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18 hours ago, Beck Water said:
I'm not saying he'll be released, just to be clear.
I actually think the team will keep him. I think they liked how he stepped up last season, and they view him as a guy who has been "playing his way back" from severe injury. Which, make no mistake, is exactly what he's doing. So if it's close, he gets the benefit of the doubt that he's 80% now (say) and can improve to 90%.
But I do think there is going to be some angst around who gets kept as a DB, and I don't view Hamlin as a lock.
Yeah, the hottest Hamlin takes I’ve seen so far are the ones in this thread, and even those (yours and others) are only saying “it’s not a guarantee his roster spot is safe”.
I think your second paragraph is spot on. If it comes down to a situation where he has to play (whether that’s special teams, or on defense due to injury), that’s when they’ll really have to make a decision. The guy we’ve seen in preseason? Probably not good enough to put out there as a full time starter. But if he’s truly a liability at that point, I think they’ll figure out a injury designation of some sort and IR-return him.
Of course, the best case scenario is that with more time, practice, and game experience, Hamlin returns to form and it’s a win all around. I can’t imagine how hard that is mentally, but we’ve seen players make crazy comebacks before.
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16 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Hamlin is one of (what I see anyway) as a "hidden battle" on the roster.
I dunno about "hesitant and fearful". But let's be real. The guy probably had broken ribs. He was undoubtedly limited in the physical conditioning he was allowed to do for several months. Now he's trying to work his way back, and competing against athletes who've been full-go training with all their might since March.
I think you're correct that it's closer than many would think, and if it's closer, the Cold Hard Football Assessment would say keep Lewis because of his versatility.
Marlowe is older and slower, if it's close you keep Hamlin.
I think the Bills are aware that Hamlin is not back to 100% physically and are likely to give him more time to "play himself into shape".
I generally agree with this take. One other factor: Publc Relations. Whether one likes it or not, PR will 100% be a factor in any roster decision on Hamlin. Basically everyone in the US knows who Hamlin is. Him being cut (as opposed to IR’d or put on one of those “Reserve” lists) would be a low-end national news story. And likely would invite criticism (fair or unfair) from the same human interest reporters who’ve been covering all of Hamlin’s charity events.
I’m not saying he can’t or won’t be released outright. But it would surprise me, and I can’t imagine it happens without being accompanied by a wistful press release about how the organization is still behind him 100% or something.
J-GUN
in The Stadium Wall
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Should really be the D-Gun though.
Keith McKeller = K-Gun
Dalton Kincaid = D-Gun
Even if you're a McKeller truther, it should still be A-Gun, not J-Gun.
These are the keys to winning IMO.