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For me, it’s still Bruce for now, but Josh is on pace to easily overtake him. Once he gets the MVP this year, I’ll flip my vote.
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1 hour ago, transient said:
Honestly, I don't understand why Detroit didn't try an onsides kick after every possession from that point forward. They've already abdicated any defensive expectations at that point. They've accepted the Bills are going to score every time they get the ball. They've basically accepted that it doesn't matter where the Bills start from on the field at that point, the outcome will be the same. Why not try to steal a possession every chance they can. The benefit of doing it with 12 minutes left should have been that it would have given them multiple opportunities to do it.
1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:Well, Campbell is also a crazy gambler, so there's that.
But I completely agree with Brandt's point that if it made sense to do it when they did, it had to make sense to do it when they scored again. The fact that they didn't do it again means either (1) Brandt's right - Allen was in their heads or (2) the LIons aren't very good at the details.
I think it might be (2), because I also don't get why the Lions didn't take the field goal when they were in the red zone and the clock running. They needed two scores, they were saving timeouts so the Bills couldn't run out the clock, they had to save themselves some time for another drive.
Whatever, Allen's amazing.
My guess is that it just came down to morale. If the result of the first one had been us barely recovering it and not advancing the ball, I think they probably keep going onsides the rest of the game. But Mack running it down to the 5 was demoralizing. Hard to run it back when your players (who are human, and affected by emotion) just saw the last result.
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17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Love him. Absolutely the unsung hero.
I already stated it, but I'll re-apologize for calling him "this season's Trent Sherfield" back when we signed him and saying "If Hollins is getting many snaps, we're in trouble". I thought we brought him in as mostly a ST specialist. But dude is an all-around baller, and a great presence in the locker room.
Need to get Shakir an extension too.
Hollins feels like exactly what Sherfield was supposed to be. I still don't want Hollins being a major part of the passing game on 3rd/4th down, but I'm very glad to have him on the team. Making plays left and right on special teams, contributing positively on offense both catching and blocking, and seems to be a great guy for locker room culture. Totally on board to bring him back next year.
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2 hours ago, DCofNC said:
Seems odd to have 3 QBs active, especially w the injuries in the secondary. I wonder if White has actually taken over as QB 2 and they just don’t want to release MT.
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We should run one of those defenses that shuts down elite offenses every time. I don’t know why everyone doesn’t just run that kind of defense - they must be much dumber than me.
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
Welp...
When it comes to my fantasy football playoff matchup, Cooper Kupp ***** me in the ass without buying me dinner first.
Rude.I'm pretty sure you're allowed to say 'bit' on this forum. 😜
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I haven't seen him play this year but everyone seems to think he's completely washed up.
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12 minutes ago, Cash said:
I thought it was Singletary? Or maybe Moss. I remember it as one of our main backs caught a TD early in the season (I think Moss), and the other only had the one chance late and dropped it. They were 100% trying to set that record.
Okay I went and looked some stuff up. First, I was right that Singletsry didn’t have a TD catch that year. Moss and TJ Yeldon each had 1, but none on 38 catches for Devin.
Second, we tied the record by throwing TDs to 13 players in 2020. In 2024, we currently sit at 12 players with TD receptions. But the pickings are pretty slim to add to that number. Plausible candidates:
- Jalen Virgil, while he’s still on the active roster
- Zach Davidson if he gets called up again (would’ve had a TD last week if Fred Warner wasn’t so good)
- An o-lineman on a tackle eligible play
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2 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:
5.2 YPC says it’s working pretty effectively. I think chargers were playing inspired after old coach was fired as the players wanted to prove they were not the problem.
2020 they tied it and I think we were a Taiwan jones drop away from sole possession. Crazy thing is I think they set up that play for him (wanna say against NE for some reason) and he biffed it.
I thought it was Singletary? Or maybe Moss. I remember it as one of our main backs caught a TD early in the season (I think Moss), and the other only had the one chance late and dropped it. They were 100% trying to set that record.-
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Just now, ShakAttack said:
I can think of one non-health related reason the #1 seed seems more important this season:
In years past, we had a CLEAR advantage over the teams we faced in the Wild Card round. In every case, these teams were on a lower level than most of the other playoff teams.
This season is different. As of right now, the teams we could potentially face in the Wild Card round actually concern me a bit. There are going to be a lot of great defenses in this year's playoffs, and that in itself can keep games close, and once a game goes down to the wire, anything goes.
Not having to deal with that at all and play one less game seems like a major advantage in the AFC this season, more than in the past.
I definitely want the 1 seed this year, and I’m pretty sure the Bills do, too.
But to whatever poster called it a must win game: no it isn’t. The Chiefs are gonna lose 2 more games, maybe 3. Even if they don’t, going from 2 seed to 1 seed isn’t enough to get to “must win” status. Reserve that for stuff like making the playoffs vs missing the playoffs.
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6 hours ago, Beck Water said:
I think that's a fair take.
The Bills scheme takes the attitude, "yards? Meh. It's points we'll keep from you."
It's built to defend against the pass, and ordinary RBs. But it's susceptible to a Brute like Travis Henry, because our "nickel" linebacker (Taron Johnson) and our linebacker "nickels" (smaller lighter LB) are built to defend the pass and OK at defending ordinary size RBs. But put 'em there with 300 lb Patrick Ricard followed by 247 lb Travis Henry coming at 'em all game and the Laws of Physics are against them.
Still, we have to remember that when Henry ran us over, we were without Milano, Bernard, and Taron Johnson. That's almost 30% of the Bills starting defense that the Ravens didn't have to worry about. Kind of analogous to when KC got to face the "Little Sisters of the Poor", AJ Klein and one-winged Dodson along with Dane Jackson and one-foot Douglas at CB in the playoffs.
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1 hour ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:
I'm quite sure you are not correct on #2. I'm pretty sure the original team can make an offer (match or not match), but the player in effect is a free agent to sign to any team's active roster.
I think what @Beck Water was saying aligns with this, it’s just that presumably the player in question would rather be on his current team’s 53 than change teams. I agree that it doesn’t have to go down like that, but I would be pretty surprised if it ever did.
(Beck, please correct me if I’m wrong.)
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On 12/4/2024 at 4:38 PM, sven233 said:
In a straight race? It's probably pretty close because of the age difference alone, but man....earlier this season, Hamlin looked like one of the slowest players I have ever seen in the NFL. I would probably take Micha, but he had obviously lost a step last year, especially as the season went along.
That said, he is coming in with fresh legs and no wear and tear from the season on his body. There is a chance he comes in and looks way better than he did last season. Or, he could look shot because he hasn't been training for football games directly. My guess is, though, this didn't happen overnight. I am sure there have been discussions for a while now and I would be shocked if he didn't already have the playbook prior to today to get refreshed on everything or learn anything new that was put in this season. I am guessing he has been ramping up his training and I fully expect him to hit the ground running and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him elevated and on the field in some capacity in the next 2-3 weeks.
There’s no way the timing was pure coincidence. Hyde didn’t just wake up today and decide he’s coming back. The Bills haven’t given away his number OR LOCKER all year. Some of that may have been aspirational, but I have to think there’s been a few realistic convos between Hyde and McBeane. And it seems like Hyde was/is willing to come back for the playoffs and maybe a little of the home stretch of the regular season. Him signing now gives him a window to get into game shape, reacclimate, etc., and be potentially ready to contribute come playoff time.
One side note regarding McD’s comments today: I think he’s being completely honest, but also that it means nothing. When answering questions about Hyde’s potential contributions, I think he’s speaking in the immediate present and taking nothing for granted. Meaning even if he’s more or less planning on having Hyde start, he won’t actually do it unless/until Hyde looks the part in practice. And a guy who’s been out of practice for is definitely not ready to contribute right this moment.
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I voted yes, but I think it’ll be tight. There are realistic scenarios where he doesn’t play week 18, and 13 TDs in just 4 games is a very tall order. Even if he plays the full remaining slate, McD is still going to be happy to pull Allen out of any more blowouts.
With that said, I feel like the passing game ticks up down the stretch as pass-catchers get healthy, and that gets Allen close enough to seal the deal in week 18. If he’s at 38 or 39 and we need that game, bank on us throwing at the goal line.
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11 minutes ago, Logic said:
Agreed.
The Bills have the 6th ranked scoring defense in the league. Over the past 3 games, they've given up an average of 17 points per game.
I don't think McDermott and Babich will be eager to swap out one of the two starters at safety for a guy who hasn't played football in a year.
If the safety play starts to decline or injures strike? Sure. Otherwise, I think some people are letting what they WANT to see happen cloud their judgement in terms of what is actually LIKELY to happen.
Agree with this, but keep in mind that neither Hamlin nor Rapp can touch Hyde’s knowledge of how to play safety in this defense. So if it gets to a point where Hyde is back in game shape, and at that point he’s tied physically with Hamlin? Then Hyde would look like a clear upgrade, or at least a gamble worth taking.
With the info available to us outsiders, I’ll be ready for either “Hyde never sees the field”, or “Hyde starts every playoff game and plays 100% of defensive snaps.” I think I’d be more surprised by something in between those two (barring injury of course).
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1 minute ago, Simon said:
Hyde is loved and respected enough in that room that I don't think there will be any boat-rocking.
I agree, partially because I have faith in the people involved. Hypothetically, let’s say Hyde has lost enough speed that he’s simply not as good as Hamlin right now. In that scenario - even as respected/beloved as Hyde is - someone would be mad if Hamlin went to the bench so Hyde could start. (Maybe not Hamlin, to be fair.)I don’t think there’s a realistic chance of that scenario happening though, because I don’t think that Hyde would see the field if he’s too slow to play now. Worst case, this adds a ton of football IQ to the safeties room to help prep for playoff opponents.
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2 hours ago, Logic said:
Not sure I agree.
Our recent history of late season veteran practice squad additions (Devonta Freeman, Leonard Fournette, etc) doesn't suggest to me that his being elevating and taking away a starter's spot is imminent.
IF Hamlin starts struggling over the next few weeks (and I don't mean playing at the level he's been playing at recently, I mean ACTUALLY struggling), then I can see them elevating Hyde and starting him. Ditto if there's an injury.
Otherwise? I don't expect McDermott to break up the starting safety duo. Just my opinion.
IMO, barring injury, Hyde only starts if he’s consistently showing in practice that he’s one of the 2 best safeties on the team. Which I think is possible if his legs are fresh, but I’m also not banking on.
Under McD, it’s been pretty consistent - once a guy earns a starting job in camp or preseason, it’s pretty much his to lose. This is a little different, because the job was Hyde’s to lose last time he played. But I think McD & Babich won’t be willing to rock the boat unless they either need to, or they’re really confident it’ll pay off.
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I just voted yes, but I only kinda mean it. I moreso think there’s still a realistic path to him coming back. Right now, my best guess is that he only comes back if someone gets hurt, and even then maybe not if they think Cole Bishop is ready.
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22 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:
I thought this too but Virgil was actually playing a lot of special teams this game…maybe they like him there.
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5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
No way Lamar is getting MVP when he is leading a wildcard team. No QB has won MVP without being the #1 or #2 seed. Pretty much a requirement that you have to be on one of the best teams in the conference to win.
Right. The case for Lamar only works if they win out, get the 2 or at worst 3 seed, and Lamar looks incredible doing it. Even then I think Lamar would be an underdog.
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
If CMC didn't win MVP last year, it's hard to imagine Barkley winning it this year.
A running back hasn't won MVP since 2012. It would absolutely be Allen's luck for the MVP voters to somehow, for some reason, decide that THIS was the year to break that streak.
All of that said...I don't think it'll happen. I think it's Josh's year. Beating the Chiefs and having an "MVP moment" on 4th and 2, then coming back in the VERY NEXT GAME and having ANOTHER "MVP moment" with the NFL Play of the Year...I think it's Josh's award to lose right now. So long as he keeps generally playing well and the Bills wind up the one, two or three seed (and the Steelers have a tough schedule to close out the year, so I think it'll more than likely be the one or the two), it is indeed Josh's award to lose right now.I agree with all of this, in order. Vegas odds have Allen as a pretty major favorite right now, which reflects where the voters collectively are at. Doesn't guarantee anything with 5 games left, of course, but it's pretty good evidence that Allen is on pace to win the MVP as things currently stand. I said after the Chiefs game that if we get the 1 seed, Allen will definitely win MVP this year. At this point, I'd probably extend that to 1 or 2 seed. Here's my quick thoughts on the likely competition:
- Saquon or any other non-QB: I'm normally very down with arguments for non-QBs - I think I would've voted for CMC last year if I had a vote. But c'mon, please just not this year. And like @Logic, I worry about it but ultimately don't think it'll happen. MAYBE if Saquon or Henry breaks Dickerson's record or the yards from scrimmage record.
- Lamar: It's hard for me to see voters giving a third MVP to a guy with so little playoff success. I know it's a regular season award, but these are human beings voting on it, and on some level they want their votes to be at least a little predictive of the playoffs. But if he's transcendent in leading the Ravens to a comeback division title, he can't be counted out. I think Allen would have to slip at least a little on top of that, though.
- Mahomes: Seems unlikely now, but let's say they win out and do it because Mahomes catches fire down the stretch. In that scenario, very good chance he wins another MVP. You'd need to see a big jump in his stats from where he is now though - just winning won't be enough IMO.
- Goff: It's a little weird that he's gotten so little buzz, because he's the QB on the (seemingly) best team in football, and some of his completion % stats this year have been historically good. Like, absolutely nuts, but no one seems to care. I'd put him as the biggest threat to Allen most likely, especially if the Lions beat us and he has a great game. If they finish something like 15-2 with the 1 seed, and Goff doesn't throw another INT this year, he would be a very deserving MVP. With that said, I think Allen has a distinct advantage with the voters, and it's that almost every voter would agree that Allen is a much better player than Goff in a vacuum. So I think if it's close, or "both guys deserve the award", most of those tiebreakers will break towards Allen.
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3 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Haven't had a chance to complete watching the middle of the game. A few early thoughts:
1) This was a "that F***IN' Guy" game for SF 49ers DC Nick Sorenson trying to deal with Josh Allen in the snow. The TD he scored on the lateral from Cooper was complete Street Ball, two vet players just sharing a brain for a moment. Then that TD to Mack Hollins where all 5 receivers were perfectly covered, yet the Bills still scored. Kind of makes a DC want to smash up a tablet.
2) McCaffrey started out the game going through the Bills defense like a hot knife through butter as our DL couldn't hold their footing against the 9ers run blocking. Give the Bills credit, that wasn't every play, they did shut some down, but the 9ers had 7 ypc in the 1st half. McCaffrey had 7.6 ypc. You hate to see a player get injured, but McCaffrey's injury did look like a bit of a break for the Bills.
3) Did anyone else think that the throw to Shakir on 2nd and 9 was 100% DPI? Looked to me as though Green were draped all over Shakir well before the ball got there. I thought the "Illegal Contact" on 3rd and 9 was somewhat of a make-up call.
4) "Hustle" award to Casey Toohill for tackling Jordan Mason downfield on his 27 yd run. Am I the only one who had to look up 99?5) Cole Bishop needs to learn subtlety. Shame to have that TD on the punt return called back by holding.
6) McDermott doing snow angels next to Josh Allen is an instant classic1) Agreed
2) Agreed, but I don't think CMC would've made much difference ultimately. He looked a little better than Mason on the night but not a lot. Sucks for him that he's apparently out for the year though. Dude has had a rough go of it this season.
3) Yes, big yes! DB didn't turn around and also directly impacted Shakir's ability to make the catch. Textbook DPI in my opinion. I got over it after the illegal contact on 3rd down, but I still think it was an incorrect no-call.
4) Several of our d-lineman have at least one hustle play like that this year. It's a really good sign!
5) Yeah, I thought it was a good call, but it wasn't super far from being legal or at least "they can throw a flag for holding on every play but don't" level. Luckily the sting of a return TD not counting is a lot less when you're blowing out the other team.
6) Yes! Absolutely loved it. Watched the ESPN clip this morning (that's who McD was interviewing with), and it's phenomenal. One low-key thing I liked: Allen came over unprompted to say "coach of the year" into the mic. McDermott haters are in shambles right now.
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Brock Bowers is who Kyle Pitts was hyped to be.
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Ameer Abdullah is having a game!
MVP hype for Allen
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Totally agree with this. One thing to add from my perspective: the Lombardi trophy is the most important, and what I want the most, but it’s not “the only thing that matters” like a lot of fans seem to think. This is, IMO, a loser mentality. Did these people turn off Talladega Nights after the first half hour and think they’d gotten the message? Just because something is most important doesn’t mean nothing else matters.
I’m reminded of the Dodgers pitcher (Kershaw I think) who voluntarily left after throwing 6+ perfect innings. His postgame comments were along the lines of, “a perfect game would be cool, but it’s all about maximizing out chance at the title.” WRONG! Throwing a perfect game is way harder than winning a title and should be celebrated much higher when looking at individual players.
Now, in this case, leading a team to victory in the Super Bowl is indeed better and more impressive than winning regular season MVP, but… not by that much. And more importantly, he can do both! I think every fan and employee of the Bills would never want Allen to play a meaningless game just to try to improve his MVP case, and that’s how it should be. But for some people to pretend that regular season MVP is worthless or irrelevant… if you really believed that, why bother watching the games?
So yeah, regardless of what happens in the postseason, I want Allen to win the MVP this year, and when it happens, I’ll celebrate with great joy. Wins are worth celebrating.