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My Rochester family plays a ton of euchre, so I basically grew up playing it. Played a bunch in high school during lunch & free periods, but otherwise it's mostly at family get-togethers. I find it's an extremely regional game - most people haven't heard of it. I have met a couple of folks through work who know it (they're from the Midwest; one from Michigan and the other I don't recall), but they have a truly bananas scoring system that uses the 3s and 4s. Certain point values required you to angle the top card diagonally! I shudder just thinking about it.
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7 minutes ago, Logic said:
Be prepared for the Bills to draft a linebacker and to potentially do so earlier than you'd like.
At this point, I’m prepared for a lot, draft-wise. I’m expecting a repeat of the last few years, where it’s clear the Bills start running low on draft able grades around the 4th round. They could really only surprise me with their first 3 picks. -
1 hour ago, Logic said:
I know there's a contingent of people who say the Bills should spend all their most premium picks on defense, and the offense is just fine. Beane may well be one of those people.
But me? I'd be happy to see them spend their first pick on a receiver if one was there that warranted the pick. The DL class is deep enough that I think they could snag guys in rounds 2 and 4 that could help them immediately, with the remaining 2nd and another mid-to-late pick being spent on corners.
Count me among those who still think the Bills offense is a legitimate WR away from operating at maximum capacity (and who doesn't think that HOPING Joshua Palmer can be that guy is an adequate strategy).I don't think Golden will even be on the board at 30 -- current betting odds have him being drafted ahead of Tet McMillan -- but if he is, that's a pick I'd be happy with.
Ditto for either 2nd rounder. It’s unrealistic to expect Allen to improve on an MVP season. It’s also unrealistic to expect such a low turnover rate again. So just to match last year’s offense, we need to improve. So far, I’d say our personnel is about a wash, maybe a slight downgrade depending on how bullish/bearish you are on Palmer. I’d be very happy to add another WR who can contribute, especially if he can play X and/or take the top off a defense and/or get open against press man coverage.-
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14 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
The Raiders are not going QB at 6. This is the final nail in that coffin. You don't hire a 70 odd year old Head Coach let him bring his placeholder QB from his last place in, then extend said QB to waste draft capital on a replacement. They are gonna try and win now with Grandpa Pete and Geno.
Counterpoint: The Raiders are not, and in my lifetime have never been, a rational or broadly competent organization. If Mark Davis decides they're taking Sanders, they'll take Sanders. (I'd still be surprised, but I'd put it at like 8-1 odds.)
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21 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
yea we going BIG
Also note the past tense comments on DaQuan
20 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:Right now, I think DQ is an insurance policy at DT1.
We'll see after the draft what happens to him.
He's 34 and may retire if the Bills tell him they have to move on.
A June 1st designation nets $5.5M which would take Beane into the season without any restructures.
I really didn't get that impression out of this video. Seemed to me like he wanted to make sure Parrino got some quotes for his story, but at the same time say nothing at all. Maybe I missed something, but it sounded like McD just boiled down to "we evaluate and we have decisions to make and the draft is important". Which, yeah very true on all counts, but also so generic that it's useless.
On my end, I'm fairly concerned about our DT position. At this point, the FO doesn't have my full benefit of the doubt on that front. They've thrown a lot of resources at the D-line, and had some successes, but enough failures that I'm not willing to give them carte blanche.
Looking at the roster now, we have:
-Ed Oliver, 3tech only, in his prime
-Daquon Jones, 1tech only, past his prime and we could use an upgrade
-DeWayne Carter, mostly 3tech (maybe 1tech on passing downs?), entering his 2nd year after a mostly-forgettable rookie year
-Larry Ogunjobi, mostly 3tech, journeyman FA and suspended for the first 6 games
-And that's it
I think, or at least hope, it's a safe bet that we'll draft a 1tech at some point. If we don't, I may panic. My worry is that they think Carter or Ogunjobi can play 1tech full time, and that they're way wrong about it. Hopefully I'm wrong and they draft a 1tech who can play right away, but we'll see.
Regardless of what they do in the draft, it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where we open the 2025 season with only rookies at 1tech DT. I think Jones is about as close to a roster lock as an aging vet could be at this point.
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7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
I think an extra 15 minutes is super fair, like old school hockey OT, but is also just too much extra football with no immediate incentive to score at all cost. College rules seem like the best compromise: dynamic, redzone-heavy kind of offensive shootout where special teams (minus extra points early on) is stripped away. Super exciting by design.
I abjectly hate the college OT rule. It's not football to me; it's some sort of mini-game. And yeah, mini-games can be really fun in the way that it's fun to eat cake frosting straight out of the can. But that's not a good way to live your life.
I like special teams, and I like the field-position battle in general. Spoon-feeding offenses the ball in scoring range just doesn't do it for me and never will.
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45 minutes ago, Logic said:
The NFL seems absolutely obsessed with fixing what ain't broken.
Best sport in the world, and they're constantly tinkering with it to try to increase scoring and "protect player safety" (yeah right).
In response to these rule changes, I mainly just have more questions about the overtime amendment. So...each team gets a chance to possess the ball -- straightforward enough. If both teams score touchdowns, then what? Are teams forced to go for two point tries from there on out? Are they allowed to just keep kicking extra points?
The replay assist and kickoff rule tweaks are straightforward enough, but the overtime change begs more questions.I've gone back and forth and all over the place on OT rules over the years. For a long time, I was a staunch "sudden death is the way" guy. I eventually relented, when I saw too many OTs that consisted of one mediocre drive resulting in a 40-50 yard FG. That's boring. So I was fully on board when the rules were changed to roughly, "sudden death unless the first score is a FG". I'm still not fully opposed to that, but I will concede that it's pretty lame these days when a shootout ends with just one OT possession.
As is tradition, the Bills got screwed by fair application of an existing rule (13 seconds game), so the NFL decided to change it. (Side note: the back half of said tradition is that we will eventually be screwed by the rule change. It hasn't happened yet, but look forward to a big game where we score a TD on the first possession of OT and go on to lose.) I actually liked the Bills' proposal of a 15-minute OT, with sudden death afterwards if still tied. Unfortunately, the NFL owners did not like that, so we got the current setup. I believe this change is just to take the existing playoff OT rule (post 13 seconds) and apply it to the regular season as well.
IMO, the OT problems stem from it being too easy to score a TD. I think football works best when it's hard but not ludicrous to score a TD, which isn't exactly where we're at these days. And even though the pendulum swung a bit towards the defense last year, it's hard to imagine it'll keep going that way very long. In any case, here's what I'd like to see for OT rules:
Regular season: No overtime, sucker! We play regulation and if it's tied, you each get a tie. Don't like it? Try to win in regulation. (Note: this is BY FAR the best option from a player safety perspective.)
Playoffs: Play a 15 minute OT, then go to sudden death if needed.
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10 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:
35 yard line is ridiculous. It felt like like last year everybody was hitting the 50 yard line after one play and now it’ll be even worse
That's at least supposed to be the point - they want teams to choose to kick the ball short of the endzone so that we fans get to see actual kick returns. TBD if it'll happen or not. I suspect most coaches will do the CYA move and kick into the endzone anyway.
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14 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Many of us have been screaming to get more help for Josh. Don’t make him overcome a lack of weapons. Let those weapons be an accelerant to the best player in franchise history. If the Bills, god forbid, don’t win one with Josh Allen, this will be a WAY bigger deal in hindsight. It will be viewed as malpractice.
If they are to win, it’ll be BECAUSE of Josh Allen. Priority number 1 should be, “get him whatever the hell he wants/needs to be the best version of himself.” Everything else comes after that. Other teams are built differently. The Bills are perennially contenders because of a bad division and Josh Allen. There are no other reasons. They have okay coaching. They have had pretty solid defenses. They’ve had average to below average skill players and an above average OL. They’ve won 5 straight division titles because of Allen. They are doing it without all pros and pro bowlers. They are doing it without guys that are top 5 at their positions.
This is mostly where I'm at as well. I'm just sick of seeing the other team's players make huge plays and our guys fall short. And it's not all about investment or draft capital, either. Kincaid was a first round pick and came up short in the clutch. (Yes, it was a tough catch attempt; but that's his job. I'm with the poster who called it a 6/10 in NFL difficulty.) Diggs cost a first round pick and got 2 big contracts, and came up incredibly short in the clutch the previous year.
As long as we have Josh Allen, we're going to be in the playoffs most or all years. I want to see a playoff run where the guys around Allen make those difficult catches when it's on the line. Or I would also accept them making so many great catches early on that the game turns into a rout and we win handily.
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2 hours ago, babulator said:
Interesting, thanks for posting. I watched the first clip and found it interesting. I'd love to hear a similar accounting from the D-line coach, Babich, and McD, but obviously that's never going to happen publicly. My question is, what's to be done about it? It's a bit of a bummer that Groot ends the clip basically saying that he's not happy with how he played but he'd probably do it the same way next time. (Anyone feel free to correct me if I misinterpreted.) Like, I'm seeing a really good diagnosis of the problem, which is a great start, but not much in the way of solving the problem.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I feel like this has to be said to a lot of people every single draft season...some of you need to stop taking BPA so literal. BPA does not mean the literal best player still available regardless of position. Team needs is 100% part of the equation when it comes to BPA. That is universally true for every GM and team.
So when it is being discussed that we should stick to BPA...that BPA is going to consist of players at positions where we have reasonable reasons to select said position at that stage of the draft. And for the Bills that is likely going to be a WR, DB, or DL when talking round 1.
I think I'll be on this crusade for the rest of my life as a football fan. Agree with everything you said, and I'd like to add... how is anyone sure exactly who the "BPA" is at any given pick????
- This isn't Madden, where every player has an overall rating distilled down to a single, easily-comparable number. Projecting college prospects involves massive amounts of guesswork. If it didn't, we wouldn't see 1st round busts or Day 3 stars.
- Even if it was Madden, how confident are you that an 81 overall is truly better than an 80 overall at a different position? (And side note, even in Madden the first guy might be an 81 in someone else's scheme but only a 77 in yours. And even at the same position, I'll take a fast 80 over a slow 81 all day, especially at the skill positions.)
- Even if you're sure the 81 is better than the 80 today, how will they compare in 2, 3, 4 years?
It's the job of draftniks to grade and rank players, I get it. But so many fans get caught up in these highly subjective and highly inaccurate grades and ranks, as though they're scientifically proven to be 100% right all the time.
I'll put it another way: I'm pretty sure I know the BPA between Travis Hunter and "anyone who'll be available at our pick", and it's Hunter. Feel good about that one. But that's not the decision that'll be on the table for Beane & the Bills. It'll be more like choosing between 2-5 guys, all of whom will have essentially the same draft grade. (Probably early 2nd round.) Maybe a guy with a higher grade will fall in the draft, and the Bills will either trade up for him or sprint their draft card in when they get on the clock. But I think that's pretty much the exception, not the norm.
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Hopefully no guaranteed $$, because he sucks.
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I have always been pro-Gilliam. Glad he’s coming back!
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2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Exactly. Many on here were whining and bashing the Hyde and Poyer signings at the time. This kid might end up being something.
Poyer yes, but IIRC the mood was mostly positive about the Hyde signing. I had never heard of him at the time, but I remember a lot of posters in the FA thread loving the signing and saying he was always around the ball in GB regardless of where he lined up.
For the record, I’ve never heard of this Darick Forrest guy either. But like @Logic, I’m very willing to give our FO the benefit of the doubt on pro safety prospects.
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1 hour ago, Pete said:
FF players- buy Josh low, and he might morph into #1 WR with big numbers
I doubt it. Palmer will likely never have as good an opportunity as he did last year, and he put up 580 yards and 1 TD. I think he can (will?) put up better numbers for us, but if he had #1 talent I think we would’ve seen it last year.
I’m pretty whelmed by this signing, which is to say in the middle. Here’s what I like:
-He’s 25 and could still have his career year ahead of him
-He seems to mostly play X - this should let Coleman play Z and help 2 positions
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3 hours ago, Andrew Son said:
He just doesn’t use sufficient arc on the deep shots which limits how trackable the balls are.
the best deep ball throwers don’t necessarily have to have the biggest arms, but they tend to throw those catchable “moon balls”
I agree with this, and I stand by my earlier post. There’s room for improvement on Allen’s end, but I still think we’d see a bigger statistical impact with different players being targeted on those deep shots.-
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4 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Did I miss something? Did we re-sign Hollins or is he a FA?
He's a free agent. Personally I expect him to be back on a small raise.
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4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Lol, come on lets not get crazy. Thats an insult to Megatron. DK is not in Megatrons class, not by a mile. I would love to land DK...but come on, Megatron has a strong case for top 10 all time and DK isn't even top 10 in todays league.
My all time WR group of guys in my lifetime as a fan: Moss & Megatron outside, Jerry Rice in the slot. Megatron was the biggest WR in the league, almost the fastest, maybe the best route runner, and had incredible hands whether the catch was contested or not. He's basically the perfect WR you'd construct in a lab. If his career was longer and/or he played on better teams, there could've been a real argument for him as best ever. As is, he's still easily on the short list for guys you'd want for one game or one season.
2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:How has Allen having to do it all by himself worked out? The thought would be, a player like DK would turbocharge Allen and shoulder some of that load. If the Bills are going to win it’s BECAUSE of Josh Allen. Giving him other dudes and not just guys would open the floodgates. That’s the thought.
Everybody eats is fun and cute. It scored a lot of points. The offense really took a leap forward once Cooper came aboard. His stats aside, the offensive stats all took a massive jump. The threat on the boundary and down the field unlocked the running game and underneath passing game. DK would do that and then some. It’s a MASSIVE need. Significantly bigger need than 2nd corner or a run stuffer. I’d argue elite pass rusher is first but boundary WR is 1A.
That price for DK is more than he’s worth. I’m still In the camp of exhaust all opportunities for Garrett. He’s still, by far, the best player “available.” If Cleveland holds firm, Metcalf should be prioritized over Holland or DJ Reed or whomever else is out there. Metcalf isn’t a perfect player but is a perfect fit for the Bills.
I agree with most of this. I liked our offense a lot last year, but pre-Cooper it showed it had a real weakness, and the addition of Cooper helped but didn't fully address it. And "everybody eats" can work just as well with more receiving talent, provided that receiving talent doesn't have a Diggs-type attitude. I would argue it works better: If the defense really has to account for a guy who'll otherwise feast on them, then that opens things up for everyone else. So hypothetically, DK would either be feasting on bad/dumb/cocky teams, or putting up low numbers but freeing up Shakir et al for big production.
1 hour ago, Andrew Son said:Not sure I agree. DK is an elite one trick pony. And that one trick is not something Josh is even good at.
we certainly need outside speed. But it’s probably not smart giving up multiple draft assets PLUS a big salary for a one dimensional deep threat to pair with a poor deep ball thrower
Until I'm proven wrong, I will maintain that Allen's deep ball numbers will look a lot better if/when we get him better deep ball targets. I'm of the opinion that the pass catcher has way more to do with deep ball success than he does with short or intermediate catches. Just think about it: On every deep ball, the QB releases the ball when the receiver is maybe 10-30 yards away from the catch point. And yeah, we've all seen some truly uncatchable balls from Allen and others, but a lot of the "bad passes" we've seen are IMO bad adjustments by the WR, or inability of the WR to leverage his body against the defender, etc.
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6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
He isn't a lost cause. But if he needs to be part of the package to get me DK he is disposable.
Agree with both of these statements. I think Kincaid’s best football is ahead of him. But Knox getting more PT wouldn’t be a problem in and of itself, and Z. Richardson might benefit from a real opportunity.
Given age and contract, I wouldn’t expect to throw much more into the trade if I was the Bills. Kincaid has to be worth about a 2nd rounder right now IMO. And I don’t think Metcalf is worth a 1st rounder.
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On 3/4/2025 at 12:13 PM, Shaw66 said:
I haven't read any of this thread, so I apologize if this is just what others have said, but this idea you expressed has been bouncing around in my head for a week now.
I would discourage you about getting your hopes up about completion percentage. I was on that train a year ago, and I think it was misguided. Josh started 2024 with a lot of high percentage games, but as the season went on, the 70% completion expectation proved unrealistic.
I don't think using Brees as a model makes sense. He played in a different era, an era when the passing game was taking over pro football, and many defenses simply couldn't stop the right QB in the right offense. Defenses have adjusted, and if you try to beat teams with your passing game, the defenses can stop you. That's why the running game has come back so strong. In the past year or two, every coach has realized that passing isn't as easy as it was 10 years ago, and they've turned to the running game to get the yards that are tougher to get in the passing game.
For example, the bubble screens and the rub plays were easy completions and easy yards three or four years ago, and they no longer are. Now, they're just another part of a varied attack - if you feature that game, defenses will stop it.
The result of all of this is that passing is harder than it was, and having a consistently high completion percentage has become tougher.
The Bills are on the right track - a varied, multiple offense that attacks all over the field is necessary, because the defenses will stop you if you tend too much in one direction or another.
In 2024, three teams got just barely over 70% completions - Detroit, Tampa Bay, and the Bengals, and all teams except the Browns and the Colts got over 60%. Bills were 63.3. I think the best we can expect is to bump that percentage 5 points or so, and on 500 attempts that's 25 more completions. That sounds like a lot, but it's only one or two more completions a game. That would be nice, of course, but they aren't the kind of numbers that are going to change a team's fortunes dramatically.
And, of course, the Bills don't need a huge increase in offensive performance. In 2024, they were second in total yards, seventh in passing TDs and first in rushing TDs. So I'm not being a downer in saying that you shouldn't expect a big increase in completion percentage. As we've all said here, over and over for three or four months, it's the defense that needs to make a big step up.
One other thing to add on the Brees comparison front: Brees is probably the most accurate QB in NFL history. If he's not #1, he's at least close to it. Allen's accuracy is quite good at this point, but I don't think he'll ever get on the same level as Brees, and that's fine. We shouldn't need our reigning MVP to turn into the 1st or 2nd most accurate QB of all time.
Personally, I think completion % is a decent but not great metric for QB play and offensive success. I certainly don't want Allen's to be on the low end. (Which, these days, is probably anything around 60% or lower.) If he threatens his career high next year, that's probably a good thing, but it's far from the only path to success. This past year, we had a ton of WR screens and a few designed RB swing passes that represented easy completions and helped Allen's completion %. But we also saw defenses get better at defending them as the year went on. If we kept hammering them all year, Allen's completion % might have been even higher, but with a TON of completions for 1-3 yards that didn't help the offense.
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3 minutes ago, Magox said:
It’s a relative rating vs his peers from all previous combine attendees at that particular position. So a 10.0 means he’s the highest rated ever measured.
…in some, but not all, of the measurements. If you aced your exams in math and science, but didn’t take the exams in history or language, is that straight A’s? -
On 2/28/2025 at 5:58 PM, Magox said:
Holy smokes!
If he’s available he would have to be the choice.
I know it’s unofficial, but the point of RAS is to blend all of the athletic testing into 1 number. So how can he have an “unofficial 10.0 pending agility drills”? Isn’t that like saying, “I got a prefect score on the SAT, pending the math section”? -
22 hours ago, Logic said:
Neal seems to be a talented prospect, BUT...
If the Bills re-sign James Cook, then between him and Ray Davis, I don't see the need to spend a 4th on a running back. Even IF Ty is not re-signed, then a late rounder or UDFA or post-draft veteran signee should be fine for RB3. It's a very deep running back class.
That said, if for any reason the Bills feel like re-signing James Cook is NOT going to be the likely outcome (which I don't anticipate), then that changes things.
Assuming Cook plays for the Bills next year (with or without a new contract), I totally agree. I would say 5th round or higher is allowable, but no RBs in the 4th or earlier. I don’t care if the guy available in the late 4th has a high 3rd round grade and is sticking out on the board. Those guys come along every other year. -
1 hour ago, YattaOkasan said:
its ~13% for 4th and 15. I dont thinks thats terrible. Yes some bad calls will be made but refs deal with these end of game long shot calls all the time and they get the majority correct. We just remember the wrong ones cause they all happen to the Chiefs benefit (lol).
I see your point, but it doesn’t move the needle for me personally. 2 things:1. We’ve all seen games where, down the stretch, one team’s defense is completely unable to stop the opposing offense. In those games, I think you’d see a conversion rate more like 40-50%, which I want no part of.
2. Again, I like watching special teams, and I think the game is more fun when special teams matter. I know some people disagree. But for me, even if doing 4th and long gets you to a good outcome from a game design perspective, it still makes the game less fun to watch for me.
Any euchre players here? Is it a regional game?
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My grandfather had a great story about him and his normal partner playing for money against some frenemies. Frenemy 1 was sure Grandpa was cheating, and obsessively implemented a 2-point penalty on knocking the table. (Grandpa and his partner were indeed cheating, but knocks had nothing to do with it.) Grandpa eventually won when Frenemy 1 (drunk) knocked without thinking, and the 2-point penalty was enough to end the game. The penalty/win was accepted, but it came with a free punch in the face for my grandfather.
I try to pre-empt these by announcing what's trump (and maybe who called it, and sometimes what's led, and sometimes who's turn it is) every time there's a lull in conversation. It's very effective! And usually by the 2nd or 3rd game, I'm distracted enough to need my own reminders.