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I was already a little scared of him, just has that boom or bust feel, so I don't want him to be in play at 9. Doesn't mean I'd drop him from my board entirely though. If he were there at 40 (which I understand is very unlikely) I'd be very intrigued. The Raiders did well taking Maurice Hurst much later than he was expected to go last year due to a similar issue.

I don't disagree at all, but that's been the dialogue around him. Early in the process he was in the top 10 of many mock's, but that's changed the last couple of months. Of course mock's really don't mean anything. Just seems to be the common perception that he'd likely drop to the teen's.

Given all the talk of his short arms and likely having to move inside, that would be surprising.

Nice depth move. Seems the writing may be on the wall for Murphy, especially if they use a pick on another RB.

When did he game plan against the TB defence?

Elsewhere in the least surprising news of the day...

You trade up for a player not a draft slot.

I suspect that's a possibility, and McCoy from Tampa is another possibility (if we don't go DT in the 1st).

I'd be fine with 700-800 yards and a good red zone threat provided his blocking is as good as advertised.

If the first round plays out like this, I like Hock as the pick. For me it really comes down to Oliver and then Hock (provided the obvious top guys are gone - Bosa, Q Williams, J Allen).

Ummm...my preference is Ed Oliver at 9 (or Q Williams if he's somehow available), but I take issue with the bolded. The Bills defense was very good last year. Elite against the pass, and solid against the run. Not sure how you think they were not very good? With Kyle retiring, it would be nice to get a 3 technique who can rush the passer. I think that would help this defense, and potentially make them one of the best in the league.

How do we accomplish all that? I can't see it happening without giving up next years first.

True, but he's also older and injured. Clark is the better player and younger. For me, it all depends on the cost.

Is it me or does that seem like a kindergarten exercise? Maybe I'm mistaken, is that a walkthrough and they'll do it in real speed after? Otherwise I think my kids did more in pre-school. Not sure what these incredible athletes would get out of that. Better off taking them out for a team meal and doing something fun to bond.

I agree with this, unless they believe Hockenson will be special and make both the running and passing game more effective. Ultimately, if he's there, I want Oliver at 9 and best OL at 40 (or move up). If he's not, I'd be thrilled with Hock at 9 and someone else able to rush the pass at 40 (or move up).

No Phil Hanson?

Or they are really interested and want to get a closer look, to determine if he's worth what it'll cost to move up. I don't think everyone is done with their boards yet. Still evaluating.

Yes. But the design involves plenty of windows so you should be prepared for ample shaming.

My fav player in this draft. Not sure I want to give up what it would take to move up and get him, but if somehow he slides...

Put me in the camp that would be fine using a 5th on him. That said, I'd be surprised. They seem to like the QB room right now with Barkley and Anderson working with Josh.

I play around with this all the time. Highest score I've gotten is just over 34k, but that's a super unlikely trade down after trade down scenario. You can get MANY 2nd and 3rd round picks if you keep dropping 1 or 2 spots in the first repeatedly. Like you said, it's not realistic, but it's fun to mess around with.

Given this criteria, is it not a given it'll be Chucky and the Raiders? Mayock, AB, Chucky...how could they pick anyone else?

I thought Curry signed with the Eagles a couple of weeks back? I'd bring Thomas in to camp to try and earn a spot, but I'm sure someone else will give him at least a couple million on a one year deal.

If we move back to the teens I’d be fine with it, but not at 9, not after we’ve already done a ton to improve the line, and certainly not if a game changing prospect is on the board (Oliver/Hock).

Embarrassed to say I've seen him on Kroy Biermann's reality show. Apparently they are best friends, and there was a recent episode where Coy shared that he wanted to go into broadcasting.