Niagara Bill

This thread is getting close to the basement bunker of one,said Rhino. Is his name mentioned even in code? Is wacky Zebra code for Deranged Rhino? These agent types are sneaky. ?

Yes that is dispictable, Clinton and the Mrs. are both undesirable. But your guy is close to this stuff too..... He and Jeffy and Miss Maxwell were friends...maybe close?? In your underground community wishing her well as Trump did, is it code for something? (Have be careful of my choice of words so Chandler does not get upset?)

Sticks and stones Mr. American. So at 300,000. 50 percent of world's deaths would have resulted in the greatest country in the world, with 5 % of the population, the standard of the world, the greatest medical community in the world failed to listen to that medical community because of politics. You held it to 170,000 heading for 200,000 min. Bravo. Bravo. Quite the job Pence did...and it is only beginning, imagine what he can do with 4 more years and then 8 as Pres. With his opposition it is likely.

One more time and I will stop wasting clear thought. Pence is totally anti abortion, the killing of unborn, yet live humans. I see his position and those that support him with money. However this same guy promoted policies and allowed government officials and rep party buddies to have policies that resulted predictably in 170,000 deaths In actual loving people, many more than would have happened if he did a better job. Forget Cuomo, forget others, who made wrong or questionable decisions...Pence is a typical hypocrite same as his boss. This is hard work getting thru such closed minds.

I have been critical of his talking....but first day of practice by all reports he played like he is in form. I truly hope he can and does. What a difference maker he can be....please Norman...quiet...just play...no locker room folder...be a real pro...?

Hahahahahahaha Now that is funny..... Oh...did you mean to be a comedian? Or did you mean Trump not Fauci...

Cuomo is not anti aborionist as is Pence. He is a hypocrite for not acceoting lives of citizens are equal to the lives of the unborn.

I never posted a gif You did ask for facts I never said you were anti abortion but the subject was posted Trump policies Masks Pro Fauci...then anti Fauci Encouraging early opening then running to hide saying not my responsibility Must have a federal plan...then giving I to repub governors when pressured Democratic states are problems but Texas and Florida are not... We are providing vents when he wasn't Etc etc

Typical...change subject you cannot defend... Seriously, have a conscience...how can you be anti abortion yet allow your politicians to have policies that killed 160,000 people, many could have been avoided... You asked for facts, you got them...then you run to insults. Acknowledge the political short comings..acknowledge the political hypocrites Ps...I would go to a doctor but with socialized medicine it takes 7.5 months. Hahaha ?

Typical....jerk...just like Pence position. Let's overturn a law that has been in place for decades to stop abortion, go to church and pray for the unborn, BUT over see policy and political positions that oks the death of many citizens, old, young, sick, disabled, vets, front line people, doctors, nursex for the sake of a political party. I am not pro abortion but I am anti hypocrite. For a state that has elderly population, so what is the magic number of deaths that is ok,,,,,10, 1000, 10000, 20000, your grandma, your mother, your next door neighbors mother, your sisters best friend...?

160,000 dead is a fact. 5m + cases Testing is good Too much testing is bad And the best yet.....Stop testing and we would have less cases Hydroxie Masks vs no masks, what day is it...oh Tuesday...masks are bad...oh it is Wed...masks are good... Governors opening too soon, Mixed messages from one level of government to another confusing the public. A governor suing a mayor...then dropping it, Democratic lead States are idiots Florida are genius for opening up early Yada yada yada

I agree. Some areas may be capable of safely holding games with crowds if everyone does their part. It is the travel from area to area that is the bigger concern. Players and fans travelling to and from highly infected areas causing reinfecting zones that are under control. This maybe the big issue the NFL has to decide on.

Or when they allow 160,000 people to die because political reasons are more important!

Josh has leadership, rushing, arm strength, a sense of timing when things are on the line, a desire to have the final 2 minutes in his hands. Cam is an ego, head case, no leadership just bragging, selfish superman. His legs are done, we will see about his arm. No one in football would trade Josh for Cam today.

You have prove that masks, washing, sanitizing eliminates spread. Sweden did have rise, UK is mostly compliant. The US is the proof that non compliance causes more cases and more deaths. Simple math. One thing is certain...the US has suffered and at least partially responsible is terrible .leadership and politics. And it continues to suffer, no letup seen. We do need to get on with life. Economy is a huge concern. Poverty potential and strife for many is worrisome. But maybe new norms. Offices us g split shifts to reduce distancing and transit crowding, school have different hours, masks in public, 15,000 viewing a game rather than 60000, more drive in theatres instead of packed shows, more aisle space in stores rather than less, etc etc. But an orderly controlled public with good leadership and private sector support can put us back together faster and permanently as opposed to the freedom nonsense. Freedom is drinking the whiskey of choice it is not allowing moonshine that potentially kills the public

They have Not yet had major rebump but have also taken to masks, distancing etc better than US. US has too many political positions. Trump, governors, mayors who support the freedom issue. I consider that with ut government rules for speed limits we would have more road deaths. Just add masks and distancing to that line. A vaccine may never be ready, may not last or virus mutates. We need to get on with life using the guidelines to protect all of society. If you could eliminate 99% of cancers with a mask for the next 12 months would you?

There is no evidence it is not coming back, reappearance has happened in most locales. School is necessary, agreed, but success is challenged because of those who do not follow or care about masks, gatherings, social distance etc.

Proving once again that Rhino is the most misguided deviant on this site. The view from mom's basement has given you a deranged view. Such a deranged view of a statement that supports his direction. Proving of course, the only thing that is important in the basement and the Kremlin is conflict. I hope Putin uses you in the trials.

Oh Rhino you are so blinded...I feel sorry for you, such hatred must feel painful from the basement view.... BUT I have to confess, at this stage of the race, I predict a Trump win. Not because of him, but because the dems cannot move far enough to the middle to get the votes. Bernie, Lizzy, Hill, and Michelle....yuck...most voters in the middle hate them, I hate them....they are stopping Joe and Kammy from moving to the middle. The fringe left will never vote for your guy just like you will never vote for Joe. They preach to the choir, they need to preach to the people in the streets. It hurts to say what I just confessed but unless Trump pulls a stupid Nixon stunt ( which is probable) he wins by default.

Long past the time government should be mandating...seriously. the flippin government did not mandate long enough and now in many places it got out of control when 2 or 3 more weeks would have reduced it significantly. Science talks of a new wave as a great possibility. Whether that is NYC or Jersey or New Orleans or LA. We have yet to be able to see what may happen. Nothing? Worse the second time around? Same again? But selfish people I have no patience for. If a second wave comes it is on them. It is them that makes the school venture more risky. It is them that makes corner stores more risky, and all commerce hurt longer. Hiding is just as bad as ignoring. Agreed! If authorities could trust people to honor rules hockey could be possible. BB could be possible.

Agree....big difference between activity exercise and standing in a crowded bar or concert so their peers can see the new dress. You can have a beer with you 4 best buds without being back to back with 75 other people you wouldn't pi?? on if they were on fire. A bubble of friends is necessary for most folks. But if they leave the rink and go to the local bar and stand back to back with others who do not respect social distance then they are selfish. Even pro ball p,Ayers are wearing masks. I bet we see some NFL players in masks.

Vents are only a treatment if you consider such a drastic step treatment. It often does more damage than good...it is last ditch effort. Statistically safe, seriously, in the US 1 in 64, and growing. So if you accept that let us consider stopping the outrageous amount of money we are spending on cancer since statistically you will not die from cancer. What is acceptable, 1 in 25, 200,000, 400 000, or 1,000,000 dead. Vietnam war was unacceptable to most except war mongers, consider by comparison the deaths I consider people who are gathering to be selfish...unconcerned about those others they may infect, mothers fathers grandparents, storekeepers, musicians, barber's and all the danger that medical people and first responders face. So selfish to have a beer, to take a selfie. Either they are so weak in character they need self gratification from peers to survive. Creating a bubble of good friends should not be hard for the little darlings.

Safety is a primal need, and safety of self and family is as primal as it gets. Ps We have no treatments for covid19, only suffering, pain relieve and life suststainng ventilators or hydroxie if you are a believer is such nonsense. As a result of some not accepting reality they are still in level 3....party time, most reasoned people went to level 1 or 2. If you are in a profession that allows separation you can still be level 4 or 5 if you maintain you bubble.

Ah, the good ol' days, Rocket Ship 7, Rocky Jones, Space Angel and Captain Kangaroo.

To suggest an answer to your question, in our instincts of survival we have been focused on protecting loved ones from illness, suffering and death. It is natural unless you are prone to emotional reactions. Providing shelter, food is primal. Partying us not primal. It is natural to socialize in smaller family groups, we are not herd animals. The old Dem saying "it takes a village", strangely is now the fight song to extreme Republs. Just a few thoughts!