Niagara Bill

Wow, play the socialist card with 117290 deaths. What has that got To do with it. Your citizens are dieing. I am sorry for the deaths in your family. Horrible for sure. Painful. I am not ignorant but you show little sympathy. So much of the postings of Rhino and his friends lack humanity and only are political...these are people dieing and certain politicals only care of re-election. 1968 ...Let's just leave the troups in Vietnam to die for no reason but support the war machine 2020...Let's let 250,000 citizens die so I can be re elected with a good economy I see these 2 items as similar points of history Makes a little sense, protect the vulnerable and let the less likely to die get it if they wish. Fewer deaths, more illnesses but the economy moves on. There is a touch of logic. Hope the stats are true.

Violence is senseless, and most protectors are non violent. Allowing taking over a city is wrong, shooting them us wrong, this is past law and order, like the Boston Tea Party. If you have ever been through a wildcat strike, or such then you know that solutions are the art of the possible not power. If you want to have your society move to the next level then listen and learn, if you want a divorce then attack. It is that simple a starting place. Do not waste your time ridiculing me when you cannot put your position clearly on paper. To divorce or save your relationship.

None of those citizens deserved to die. You are one judge and jury guy. Who made you St. Peter. You make Rhino seem human. 117290 of your citizens have died so far...more than a world war...show some compassion not politics.

As for being Canadian, I am proud of that and also proud to have many US friends, I worked for a US based company for 37 years and get concerned for my second favorite country. I do not dismiss Cuomo from some responsibility, we all play a role and his was both good and bad. As for Rhino...He is a basement dweller. Politics is so important that he has lost real perspective. I still think he is a paid agent, anyone who posts that much is paid. 117290 deaths and he feels nothing but to defend his position. He is as much of the problem as those who are extreme left. Time for people to put friends, family, citizens, first. Stop looking for aliens under ever word. Ps Rhino has no sense of humor, a definite sign of too much basement time

I am outraged by protesters being so stupid. The protests are are different issue than the virus. Troup's vs your own citizens is wrong...looks like something the CCP may do. The social ills of the world, not just US is an issue that needs patience and a true understanding. Extreme positions are harmful. Leadership is not about power, today the politics of both parties is about power. There are citizens of the USA and the world who are hurting. Are they part of your society and future or not. Do you wish to save your marriage? I hope so.

And you keep hiding in the basement. Suggesting I support CCP is ridiculous and you have played that card too many times. But from the basement that is what you can see. You fail to see your over the top politics ignores 117,290 of your fellow citizens have died, some, maybe many as a result of the politics you support. If you feel necessary to call me deeply stupid...from the basement, feel free. Your view from that tiny window is not clear. Your humanity has been lost in politics. You are safe in the basement but you are irrelevant without some humanity. He killed none. The virus did. He was not perfect in his response for sure. I see few politicals that were. But they tried, more than I can say for many politicals. Pence is the biggest bible thumping piece of of st?? Imaginable. 117290 of you citizens and you still listen to guys like Agent Rhino....politics before humanity.

Your support of a policy that has helped spread this calamity and caused 117290 deaths to date shows your lack of humanity. Your idealogy supersedes any human realization. Hiding in the basement is easy. The nose keeps getting bigger. You are unable to have compassion because of politics.

When the Agent with the growing nose, speaks he defends 117,290 deaths so he can kiss DT and MP. Too busy looking for conspiracy to care about citizens dieing. Idealogy is more important. Blame is more important. He hides in his basement and defends the indefensible. You sicken me and many others. 117290 citizens.

Low? 117,290 citizens.

Overstated USA Mar 17th, 2020...100 deaths USA June 17, 2020...117,290 deaths In spite of all the declarations, ignoring of data, bold macho spin, chest thumping, blaming of China, defunding of WHO, admonishment of CDC, taking a bow for stopping flights from the world, miracle drugs, army hospital ships, more ventilators etc etc....clearly this virus which has now in 3 months killed more American citizens than died in WW1 is winning. By Sept 1 more deaths than WW1, KOREA, and Vietnam wars combined. The blame game and ignoring clearly is a bad strategy.

Does hand sanitizer become the new stickum for receivers? It would help Knox.

Wax on wax off...

Compare Trump to an actual good President. You keep picking the lowest measurable. Biden might even look good compared to Obama.

Noted...no agreement, no disagreement, ask questions, ask reasoning, ...part of discussions but like all negotiations at some point you come to the wall on both sides. Finding what the wall is made of is the art of the possible. But too soon to not listen. To soon for quid pro quo

You assume BLM speaks for the black community. They are loud, so we're the Black Panthers, so is Al Quada but they do not speak for all Muslims. The journey if you really want to .I've with each other will seek out those who can speak. Trump..never, Pelosi never, Sharpton, never, Maybe Oprah, Tyler Perry etc. Maybe Joe Scarbough, maybe,Bill Gates

If your belief is #3 on your list then you do not want to move to a new level of trust and relationships. If you believe because all blacks believe in attonement and penalty then you are not understanding. Stop the Yah Buts. I would not generally accept that Christopher Columbus had to be stricken from the history books as some white and black suggest. The Pyramids were built by slaves...that is history. If something they do then that is debated able. But one does not have to undue the past to fix the future. I would not suggest that Al Sharpton had to be demonized, even though he maybe should be. Some people cannot be satisfied, you just have to get the majority moving in the same direction, details will be dealt with as your journey goes. Buying your second home starts with the agreement to move from the first. You do not need to burn it down. You are right, but both sides have people that take extreme positions. Getting past that takes time to sort through.

I definitely do not think screaming racist is acceptable or right or even reasoned. It maybe just anger, discussed, frustration, like some who use the "n" word. It is meant to hurt..to inflict pain. Some know that many of us hate being called a racists, it does not define us, it is hurtful and we fight it and fight back. So the battle rages...none of us win...only those who want us divided. .

It does not mean acceptance, it means I want to hear what you have to say. That does not mean everything they have to say they believe. Their are blacks protecting cops, their are black business owners who are trying to stop violence, there are people protesting peacefully. Until you stop defending yourself (not talking physically), they believe you are not listening. " Yah buts " stop conversation and growth.

Yes in the world today listening is important. To help resolving you must learn the real problem...it may not be violence, or only violence... anti poverty, education, etc maybe solutions but not the real problem. I do not understand enough personally. If we did understand why for all these years have we not been able to unite our family. Maybe we do not want to? That is another line of discussion. Like I said, first decision, do you want the relationship. It took Goodell a long thoughtful time to open his mind. He saw problem, control, solution. Now he sees he may not have control, so he has learned. Thank goodness. Before anyone says anything I support the respectful for flags and anthems as well, BUT, we are approaching a key time in our lives, let us take the opportunity to really make a difference.

Of course not. Listening is not silence. Ignoring is silence. At this point your opinion on the meatloaf is not important. The US and Canada have a social family problem. Listening will help you learn. Silence through ignoring gets you same old.

So some want to say things on their minds in a different format and strength. Maybe Greg is an Agent like Rhino, maybe he is SDS, or Yolo in disguise. Strangely he has increased the quality of discussion to relevant issues as opposed to the underground politics, illuminati, communists, ccp, socialism, religious babble nonsense that enters each thread for those who want a a Trump reelection or Dem success at any cost.

You move way to fast. No one even suggested psychological pain. The world has not even listen enough to determine that. Healing must start by the validation of those that are in pain first. I never suggested ignoring the pain of the rest of the family, but dealing with that initially leads to breakdown of the process and back to the same old and tired debate. You sometimes have to tell your wife you love her and understand and then listen with love and real attention for days before you discuss the bad meatloaf. That is if you really want the relationship to survive. A question at this point is more important that a position. Unless you are black in America today, your thoughts on solutions are useless until you first listen. You have 2 ears and one mouth...use them in that proportion. You will hear some shi?, but sorting through to clarity takes time. Start today. It has been too long.

They are still relevant, who do you think pays some of the posters on this page

From a socialism standpoint a fee would be inequitable. Only the rich could join. From a communist agitator standpoint people like Agent Rhino would have their handler/ pay for it From capitalist standpoint Reality could have advertising on his byline or the Trump banner could be on the heading. So confusing. ACTUALLY When reading some of the position on this site we all pay the price. PS when SDS started some folks did chip in as friends...seems like a nice approach that has been lost...

I find these threads incredible. Everyone fighting over 1921, Civil War, WHarding, etc. Just a thought for clarity. If a family has members who are expressing pain, do you tell them they have no pain or the reason for the pain is invalid. Seems to me the only decision is do you want to stop the pain and if you do, then discuss that. The cops in Atlanta the other day must have an IQ of 13 if they could not understand that sleeping in a car, drunk or not is hardly worth death of him or themselves. I use to tell my employees who had alcohol issues, the reason why you drink too much is not important until later. Just stop drinking, concentrate on changing from this point on. Once you have a state of mind you can think rationally, then revisit the past when there is perspective. The black community needs to be understood by the family. The cops which represent the rest of the family have lost perspective. It is a complicated relationship but stopping the pain is step one.