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Ertz was spotted at the airport. GIT ER DONE Buddy! Ops, that was 2011, not 2021....sorry for the optimism. That was back when if we had heard of him we wanted to sign him.

Being an anti vac guy is ok. It is a choice. No small pox vac. No polio vac. No measles vac. No travel to the rest of the world. Ok I understand. BUT, you are correct when you say a refusal to be tested and follow protocol to keep team mates and staff and opponents safe, then he must leave.

FANDIMONIUM

So your answer is the same as Nancy. Legalize, treatment and play nice. I guess you are resigned to having cartel run government. And you want election reform....wow! Soon you won't need any voting hrs. Maybe the cartel already controlled the WH. Some say OC already eliminated 1 president in the 60s.

Your country putting up with this!.? You forget one important fact. It is also their country. Maybe they can't believe what you stand for? Polarization makes it either this or....that, very unsolvable with out a conflict like Jan 6 succeeding. Not sure anyone wants a guy with buffalo horns running the USA. BUT BACK TO THE SUBJECT. Are the drug cartels running politics now? Or will they?

Now you sound like Nancy P. Fentynal for all. What a great election campaign.

I wonder why everything has to be reduced to politics. The question or thought was not political.

My side???? I am far from left. I am the real conservative...fiscal conservative...not a blind religious zealot who does not think for themselves and believes ARs are part of polite society. Some folks are so far out you cannot see the center. It does appear the more we spend time helping overdoses, or providing needles, or safe houses to inject, the more we accept drugs that kill are part of life and the sellers are ok. Thus the money takes over our cities, country and politics.

As an observation, gangs/cartels and other organized violent crime entities have become so powerful in certain areas of the world that government is either powerless or complicit in activities. Mexico has areas that cartels control. Haiti appears to have an assassination of their President, Columbia etc. In US and Canada we spend more and more on preventing over dose deaths which is a sign of resignation of control, the money laundering techniques now build condo towers, bridges, sub divisions, start businesses etc with ammunity. Are we destined to become more violent societies as control shifts to the money of cartels. We are defunding police, unable to prosecute enough suppliers, unable to stop supply, worshipping celebs that use hard drugs, pander to everyone that tries sobriety and fail, not caring that what they do is illegal. Are our governments become more controlled and influenced by this endless money influence.? Is it too late? What do you think?

Red helmets were used to help Jim pick out receivers in a sea of white at times. So the story goes.

I to have fond memories, this whole thread started when I suggested he was brought in to placate fans, was a good runner but we didn't need him to win a SB. We could have used the dollars to get position players, like QB that would allow a stronger future to be built. As compared to other runners we likely won 3 games more over his time here than if we had a much cheaper back. In the end east west runners are entertaining but do not win.😁

I agree they need Josh, but I am saying this admin wants to win, not just be decent, or good and sell tickets and Jerseys. Beane wants ultimate victory. He will not fall in love with a player over a SB. This is refreshing.

We shall disagree on Shady. East west never wins, just excite and disappoint. He was brought here to placate the fans. So many GMs wanted to give hope not win. We now have admin that wants to win a SB. They would trade Jish to win. Shady was a cover good, not great team. A waste of our time. We traded for Keith Lincoln to try and win. We traded for Shady for tickets sales.🥳. We got James Lofton to go to a SB. We got T.O. for tickets and fans. After 55 years we need to win. If that is not our goal bring back Lebeau and Donahoe. We can agree to disagree.

You are correct, I apologize for the comment. Just frustration over took me. I never said he was a bad person, only tried to point out he could never win fir the team. That us why Philly was willing to give him away. Too many cuts, too many runs for negative yards, and no blocking.

Ok, let face facts, you are an idiot, I have tried to explain my idea of shady, not that he was a bad person or rb, but that as an east west back he does not win. He would not help this team. A Lynch may. A North South rb would. Emitt Smith would help. GAYLE Sayers would help. Thurman would help, . You also need a back who has the ability and guts to block. Shady couldn't block his shadow. So I know you love him, I am happy fir you and your relationship, but to win a SB...never, not in his best days. Prime, have a good day!

Yes, a living wage of perks off book, no tax, provided under the table by the president, is vastly different when you view it from a cell.😁

Sorry, but either he was a messiah or not. Now we are on the QB league stuff. Just accept east west runners are fun, exciting but do not win and will disappoint you at the biggest of moments when they Must gain those yards. This all started when I suggested he could have never got us to the SB so why keep him. Many other backs in history in a Bills uni were his equal.

Who said I didn't respect Shady, I just thought other backs would be better and east west runners never win. There are people on this board who debated Johnson and Flutie. Then there those who said, doesn't matter, cannot win SB with either. Doesn't mean we didn't respect them.

Maybe true, maybe not....it was a good deal fir Bills, but Shady is still Shady...EW runner, looks great but is only decent in a winning system. IMHO You are very right, fun, hopeful, a reason the cheer, good player, sold jerseys...on a team that needed a reason to keep you cheering. But alas, few wins. He can only get you so far.

Why does everyone want Shady to be a messiah. "We would win if we had Shady with Josh". Seriously...why not say Thurman, or Lynch (who did win), or Fred, etc. IMHO, Shady was good, not great. an East west runner who for some reason got dumped in Philly (hmmmm, this future HoF runner....they saw his limitations). He propped up the Bills fans and hope....and we bought it, When we brought him here it was to placate fans not to win... If Ertz move is to be believed that is a piece to go to SB, like Diggs is. Nice to see Shady, but I want a fifth chance at a SB.

Maybe you are right maybe you are wrong, but east west running backs like Shady and Barry Sanders types always have people who live them, but they seldom win consistently. Just saying, while Shady brought excitement, hope and cheers, in the end when you needed to run the ball north south in Nov Dec, .... He propped us up, but that did nothing to help us sniff a SB. If you enjoy being average with a hope, get Shady, if you want to win...stay away from east west runners.

So, we have cap money to potentially spend in 2021. What does this team need most, a TE or CB. Ertz or Gilmore type? Ertz is a luxury, CB is a necessity.

This makes more sense than just adding Ertz. We need CB, as was proven last yr by adding an old Norman who weakly helped. Weapons we now have with Sanders and Hodgins added. Ertz is good but cap dollars are precious and injuries in camp happen and we flexibility.

Ertz...not needed...spend the $$$$$ on corner.

I could find similar runs by Davis, Riddick, McGahee, Lynch, Spiller. He had moments no doubt, An NFL rb should do this from time to time. Still say he was OK, but we could have spent the money more wisely.