Niagara Bill

Sorry, but either he was a messiah or not. Now we are on the QB league stuff. Just accept east west runners are fun, exciting but do not win and will disappoint you at the biggest of moments when they Must gain those yards. This all started when I suggested he could have never got us to the SB so why keep him. Many other backs in history in a Bills uni were his equal.

Who said I didn't respect Shady, I just thought other backs would be better and east west runners never win. There are people on this board who debated Johnson and Flutie. Then there those who said, doesn't matter, cannot win SB with either. Doesn't mean we didn't respect them.

Maybe true, maybe not....it was a good deal fir Bills, but Shady is still Shady...EW runner, looks great but is only decent in a winning system. IMHO You are very right, fun, hopeful, a reason the cheer, good player, sold jerseys...on a team that needed a reason to keep you cheering. But alas, few wins. He can only get you so far.

Why does everyone want Shady to be a messiah. "We would win if we had Shady with Josh". Seriously...why not say Thurman, or Lynch (who did win), or Fred, etc. IMHO, Shady was good, not great. an East west runner who for some reason got dumped in Philly (hmmmm, this future HoF runner....they saw his limitations). He propped up the Bills fans and hope....and we bought it, When we brought him here it was to placate fans not to win... If Ertz move is to be believed that is a piece to go to SB, like Diggs is. Nice to see Shady, but I want a fifth chance at a SB.

Maybe you are right maybe you are wrong, but east west running backs like Shady and Barry Sanders types always have people who live them, but they seldom win consistently. Just saying, while Shady brought excitement, hope and cheers, in the end when you needed to run the ball north south in Nov Dec, .... He propped us up, but that did nothing to help us sniff a SB. If you enjoy being average with a hope, get Shady, if you want to win...stay away from east west runners.

So, we have cap money to potentially spend in 2021. What does this team need most, a TE or CB. Ertz or Gilmore type? Ertz is a luxury, CB is a necessity.

This makes more sense than just adding Ertz. We need CB, as was proven last yr by adding an old Norman who weakly helped. Weapons we now have with Sanders and Hodgins added. Ertz is good but cap dollars are precious and injuries in camp happen and we flexibility.

Ertz...not needed...spend the $$$$$ on corner.

I could find similar runs by Davis, Riddick, McGahee, Lynch, Spiller. He had moments no doubt, An NFL rb should do this from time to time. Still say he was OK, but we could have spent the money more wisely.

The football Gods are creating another perfect wide right for us. Pampered overpaid athletes that we worship way too much, taking painkillers, drugs, pot, occasionally roids, just to stay on the field, play with injuries numbed by some drug they trust from these same drug companies they B word about, suddenly beat their chest about my choice to reasonably try to protect themselves and teammates. They are individuals, can chose for sure. But they are not above the rules made for the benefit of the majority. Drive the speed limit or lose your drivers license. Coles choice. But his mouth tells me this is political not belief. If it is belief, quit now, retire now, stfu and let those remaining win a Superbowl.

Tim. I do not hate myself, but I do see where the overarching clergy supported pedophilia or turned their back with knowledge or failed to challenge the support when it was discovered. Even us as members have not taken the church to task. Heck, if a politician was to react like that it would be on this site in 30 seconds and their support would immediately be ended. I understand the casual and dangerous ways of abortion and I have very personal thoughts and views on this subject and scourge in some areas. I find it alarming we have at least a good degree of agreement here. Wow. Maybe you are not such a bad guy after all. 😀

I am Catholic, and can think for myself and I do not need the preaching of bishops who think pedophilia is ok and cover up is not lying. In 1500's this church tried to take over the world and supported slavery. This church refused to accept divorce and would not allow battered women who divorced an abusive husband to take communion. Your married partner could commit murder and be forgiven but divorce or abortion cannot. Changes in the church move to slowly in this age. I will continue to love the Lord, and enjoy attending church services, but I will not blindly listen to doctrine from these men. A church who does not even see women as equals in 2021. I think it is possible to be devoted and disagree with these mear mortals. It also saddens me to hear of this decision.

Only one reasonable approach to Covid vaccine...."think small pox", "think polio".. After seriously cutting yourself would you consider a tetanus shot bad? Fearing a vaccine like Cole is hysteria, not logic. If Josh is in the same boat, we'll I guess the football Gods have found a way of recreating wide right. If a wonder drug could cure Cole if he caught Covid, would he take it? Does he take other meds and supplements? Likely. Does he think Tylenol is a commie plot? I think this is plain hysteria.

Ok, maybe better than Spiller, but not by much. He was a great self promoter, many fans enjoyed his style, his talent, his fame from Philly, BUT, his backwards style of running away from contact often hurt a struggling team as much as his talent helped. He could no longer carry a team by the time he came to the Bills

Ok seriously, what did this guy do that Lynch, Riddick, Davis didn't do as well or better. Shady had a rep coming here, he was good but not transcending. Maybe won 3 games we would have lost with another back. Take him out and replace with many if the names I suggested....same or better outcome. He was a cult hero when we needed hope...but seriously, was he that good.

McCoy is a footnote. Huge paycheck, minor irritations, 1 trick pony running style, ineffective blocker, on the way down. Not even as effective as Riddick, Davis, Lynch, McGahee, Spiller, Gore, Henry in his time here. A total waste of money which should gave been spent on important positions. IMHO.🤔

Carrillo says the world is laughing and it is true? Chris Cuomo says the world laughed at trump and that makes it true. Biden is not my favorite Pres, but stop with the age sheet. You are too bright for such wasted nonsense. It has been historically documented that members of congress laughed at Roosevelt which is why he tried to hide his illness, and many saw Ford trip...many times.

So who laughed? Proof, who outside of trumpsters laughed. Leh-nerd, you are a great man of opinion that is appreciated, but if you speak for others show the facts. There are photos of world leaders laughing at trump, but where dd you see laughter directed at Biden?

Le'Veon, Levon, Leave On, whatever, had a limited run until money became the only issue, he got his as they say, he decided playing hurt too much and took too much time (not his fault it was them coaches who don't know sheet). He may be the big man in his neighborhood, but in the NFL he is done like dinner.

Well, the word they covers quite a few people. Names???

They laughed at Roosevelt. They laughed at Ford.

Time to take a break from the political Crapola. Time for a renewed perspective B. You don't seem to be able to see the trees.

So let's end this whole thread. We know that news outlets cannot be trusted, that politicians cannot be trusted, that major political campaign donors cannot be trusted, that my brother in law cannot be trusted, That about covers this debate. 🙃

You don't mean to be a dick, but yet.....

Boogie down Dude😁