Niagara Bill
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Whether Trump is a terrible President or not can be difficult to judge. It is a complex world....but what is troublesome is the debate as to whether it is best the he remain silent in trying to sooth the public or not. Would he create more polarization or not. And your nose is getting longer....and longer, Agent Agent Rhino would have first hand knowledge of these type of events.
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Should absentee ballots be illegal?
Niagara Bill replied to Warren Zevon's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Do not allow anything in this next election that allows Trump the opportunity to cry foul. No thought of maintaining power due to fraud. Make it so clean that it stops legal battles. No hanging chads. Biden would cry foul to but by then his voice will be so weak nobody will hear him. -
Sorry man but some of them need to cross the blue line and speak up about the internal police problems. Often trained to be para military and some come from military backgrounds so the strong reaction has been bred in. Stop protecting their own when they know better. Where is Scerpico when you need him.
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You are exactly correct, but the sad part is much of the black community has such a bad relationship with the police and much of the populous they do not assist. Many feel it is a little get even with the man....and Floyd is dead. But these professional agitators need to be stopped now by any means.
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You do not live in a bubble. You defended your country, the whole country, 380,000,000 citizens, diverse in every way. When you do not listen you are ignoring a good part of those fellow citizens. Your obligation to fellow citizens is to insure they have opportunity and respect. You do not have to give handouts, but life and respect would be nice. Glad you are good person, you can be a role model, and a good one. You are watching thugs?according to WH sources, but there are many others who need your ear, they have concerns and need help. These days are just a symbol of the underlying issues. Keep up the good work.
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Well said, an understanding without an agenda to sell. More thoughtfulness and less tablethumping. There are people from all walks of life hurt by the underlying problems.
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All the rioters should be punished...legal process of course and there are professional agitators now in control for sure. But do not let that blind you from seeing the issue that need to be dealt with. Poverty, education, drugs, gangs, racism, healthcare etc. That creates this cultural divide. For how many years did violence happen in Ireland between Catholics and Protestants. Professional groups made money, it was an industry but many people died. You can not have your culture face that type hatred. Learn from them.
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You focus only on the criminal behavior, all sides do, but there are under lying issues that need to be listened to and only open minds can listen. Maybe you think I ramble..but I am likely one of the few who does not have an agenda, or a strong position that I am determined to sell. I can only say in 50 years some progress has been made, but there is a percentage of the population left behind. Reasons ??, don't know, but troublesome
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The penalty for not taking it seriously and looking past the Bud Light (And who doesn't want to do that) is a culture that will continue to deteriorate. I could see the fires burning in Detroit in 67 from Windsor. I was in lockdown in a bar in Niagara Falls NY during a riot, looking out through a window onto the street. Is 2020 going to be the same. Another generation and the same results. That is called FAILURE.
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And you are all part of the culture and therefore play a role in determining the outcome. Strange how libs, trumpers, minorities, professional agitators, all demand to be heard and demand their rights and freedoms. Complaints that someone else is stopping their right to freedom. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THIS, OR SAY THIS ETC. THE FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED ETC Most of us were born with one mouth and 2 ears. They should be used in that proportion if you want to change the situation.
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Kaepernick and the National Anthem
Niagara Bill replied to 26CornerBlitz's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
This is nothing but shear drivel from one who spews hatred every day. If you could only see what you have become. Not the possibility of reason, understanding, sharing or commonality. You gain by fighting, a solution would put you out of business. Don't blame others. Leaders never point fingers. They are too busy leading. -
I respectfully disagree. Never would I paint an entire group...good or bad Just go to youtube.....Youngbloods, Get Together.... Come on People... Railing is Agent Rhino and followers...single minded, focused on supporting their position, defend defend, attack attack... Peace....It is time...
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Come on billsfan. You can be an intelligent poster. How many cops knew this guy was a lose cannon and did nothing, so they get tarred with it too. Of course most officers are not racists and all blacks are not violent and dangerous druggies. BUT, if other officers know, which they do, and say nothing, or the command know and the blue line blocks the truth then should all be tarred. I am not a religious guy, but I pray that the US can just find a way to understand and respect each other. It is hard to imagine with the leadership you have today
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Even a perceived issue is an issue. Empirical data only ignores another problem. It needs to be solved. Building barriers does not. You actually believe that only pros are behind this? Ok I will agree with you. Floyd is dead, Minn is burned, you still have the problem
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Then your real world will continue to have cops who kill, buildings which burn, violent protests, divided citizens, huge costs, You often quote the constitution, it does not mention real world, it talks of a better place to which you seem to say...f??? It thus is good enough.
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This is not an isolated incident...ask Kaepernick
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Never ever thought you were a racist, never crossed my mind. Only know you were being way to technical in an issue which has gone past technical. Citizen vs citizen needs listening and desire to reach a national solution to what is obvious. Replace Floyd with Stephon Diggs and tell me the reaction is not different to part of the citizenry, or substitute Josh Allen as Floyd, . The CNN Newsman was arrested for nothing before the policeman. As a result of the judicial system not openly caring about some citizens, they protected some citizens, hiding behind a process than many sense is just a block, then caused many other citizens the loss of their business and property. Nobody won. Everyone should feel the loss. Riots are wrong, military police are wrong, loss of life is wrong and loss of property is wrong. Defending a process that causes this result is???
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Wow....I now understand how these issues continue for generations.
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1.I am not a citizen lawyer or politician so what law I do not know, but you said they should have it changed. 2. I did not suggest you are defending the officers, but the response to death in Minn and Georgia are a symbol of an issue you are refusing even acknowledge so how can it be solved. 3. Lynching is death, arresting is the start of a process that shows the citizens that this obvious violent incident is being placed into the proper public judicial system. How can you not see this...stop defending the indefensible.
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Again your point is well taken but these people are trying to have the law changed, starting 60 years ago up to Kapernick, but with no one listening so it goes. When you stop defending acts that are obviously wrong you can begin to hear and solve. It is ironic that this takes place under the heading Liberal protests....again a word that creates emotion and does not allow people to hear and be heard. The issue deserves not to have people pigeon holed as they speak. Some of your citizens thinks this is a version of the old kkk lynchings. Do you hear that....ignore the professional agitators, ignore the paid Agent's rhetoric, just ,listen to the cry of your fellow citizens.
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Again you are correct when the process dictates but what appears to be different processes for different people. Many Citizens feel this, as members of your society they need to be heard and listened to. Failure for citizens to solve the reality or appearance of reality will only cause greater damage to your society. It cannot be solved by physical power, political power or you become no better than China.
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Do not think I said all cops are racists. I am saying that there is building so much evidence that it is looking like the duck. The cause of why these reactions happen are complicated, historical, financial, political, etc. For example, as a result historic events like race riots of the 50s and 60s then terrorism, drug gangs, gun violence, the police forces have become more and more military like, trained like military, armed like military, hiring ex military members, not saying it was not necessary but plays a role in how the modern police treat the citizens and see the world. I am NOT trying to have a race discussion, just observing how this perfect storm is coming and if not handled the professional agitators take over. It becomes about power not about freedom and equality and justice for all.
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There is no proof of racism unless the purps say it was. In fact it matters little if it was racial, but in many instances it is the duck thing. If it is not racial the delay in arrests is just wrong. It is indefensible. A portion of citizens of the country are saying how it feels, how it appears that there is a different approach in certain instances...time after time...the longer the country does not listen, the more professional protesters take advantage and the message changes. The debate on this site was about conspiracy of white supremacists, or BLM, etc. That over looks what the real caring citizens are asking the country to hear. The CNN reporter was treated differently this morning. While this might not be racist, the preponderance of evidence is beginning to be hard to ignore. I do not pretend to know the causes etc etc, just an observation from someone who does not have a dog in the fight.
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I know I will be told it is non of my business by the likes of Rhino, and I am just way to liberal ( I am not a liberal), but the whole point is being missed. If the police are not para military, if this is not racist, if justice is equal. No arrest of the officer yet, for a death seen on video, and in Georgia, how long did the arrest take? Wow...regardless as to whether there are professional protesters, the violent left, fires, property damage, business and livelihoods destroyed and neighborhoods pulled apart....still no arrests. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....
