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This loss is on the whole offense, from Orton, to the fumbling receivers, to the terrible play calling. Disgraceful.

This loss is on the whole offense, from Orton, to the fumbling receivers, to the terrible play calling. Disgraceful.

Do or die time

This team is a disgrace

Hiring coaches from the Big East to move straight to the NFL. What a joke.

The season is over if they lose this game. They should fire Marrone just to send a message. Make Schwartz the interim

Carry him off the field

Did they dress brown today?

If Jackson is hurt, we are doomed.

I'd sign up for that. He went to the conference championship twice with Mark Sanchez at QB, and for all of our griping about him, he's really had our number.

Ok. It was a hard fought game, but the nfl wants another Brady vs manning matchup. What are you going to do? It's tough luck.

Ok. We gave ourselves a chance. Now just have to get another TD.

No need to panic. It's only a touchdown.

Wait. I thought chan told us you weren't allowed to kick field goals from that far back. Must have changed the rule since then... Wait. I thought chan told us you weren't allowed to kick field goals from that far back. Must have changed the rule since then...

Wait. I thought chan told us you weren't allowed to kick field goals from that far back. Must have changed the rule since then...

Wait. I thought chan told us you weren't allowed to kick field goals from that far back. Must have changed the rule since then...

Wait. I thought chan told us you weren't allowed to kick field goals from that far back. Must have changed the rule since then...

This really is just what he looked like in college. It's not like he deceived us or anything. It kills me to watch this guy underperform on two of my teams (FSU fan). If he starts for us next season, it will make 6 years of watching the same thing and hearing the same conversations about his potential, etc. blech.

This one isn't on Manuel. He's missed passes, but made some plays too. However, he has got to get more accurate down field and learn from some of his mental mistakes.

This is probably the most likely outcome.

This scandal and the current criticism of the NFL (and its players) for not respecting the rights of women seems like it will give the league more of a reason to do away with cheerleaders altogether (or radically modify how the current system works). Ideologically, the latter issue (objectifying women on the field and not respecting them as you would "normal" employees) and the former issue (not viewing women as human beings off the field) line up with and reinforce one another Quick edit: completely agree that there is no new info and this is lazy journalism. Also, the sharks are still circling.

The whole cheerleading thing always seemed a bit archaic. Probably not a good idea to teach girls to view themselves as pretty objects that ornate the work done by men. This is less of an issue in high school and college but was taken to extremes in the NFL in the 90s (in terms of the outfits, the routines, etc.). That being said, I'm not going to get up in arms about cheerleading in the league (and the US as a whole). People can do what they want. I just don't think it's much of a loss, quite the opposite actually.

That's why you only hire college coaches from major conferences. The Big East is essentially a pop warner division and the low level of competition allows you to do things that won't carry over to competitive leagues. Hell, this problem is bad enough with coaches from legit divisions (see Saban and Spurrier). Whoever made the coaching hire should go along with Marrone. I blame that person way more than I do the coach.

Seriously, he was the hire we should have made. He was fired for going 10-6 and missing the playoffs, with a solid professional history, and he expressed interest in our job. It was right there in front of us. This team bungles everything. Watching him win in Tampa is going to hurt. Blech.

FSU alum here. What is really disconcerting about Manuel is how little the book on him has changed since he took his first snap at FSU. He has always been a guy with lots of potential who just needs to find a way to put it all together. Maybe it happens this year (and I hope so, the guy is very easy to root for), but I've grown a bit numb to this argument.