Flbillsfan#1

Here is something for you to think about, apparently you didn't know.......... Teams change from year to year as does their schedule ..... & with the Bills, their coaching staff & offensive & defensive philosophy as well.

The Bills need the Toronto Corporations to accept the Bills as a team they want to invest in, they don't need the Toronto fan to keep the Bills in Buffalo.

[quote name='The Big Cat' date='Jul 21 2008, 12:55 PM' I say this because in staying with what I believe to be true about his Stanford team: his injuires, their lack of success, etc. could have all been attributed to being a lousy team. Period. I can say the same of JP & the Bills. The Bills up to this point have been a lousy team. Period.

JP never had a chance to develop with the Bills. He played for a number of different coaches in a number of different offenses, on teams with little to no talent. The JP HATERS all say he had a chance but couldn't get the job done. I say who could get the job done with the coaching & players he has had around him? Steve Young & Jim Pluckett are two players that come to mind that didn't have "it" until they moved on from their original teams. I think JP's future & legacy will be determined by the team he goes to in 09.

I don't know either, but I can tell you Trent threw only 7 TD's last year in 9 starts & the Pats game which he played most of. Less than a TD per game is not very good, hopefully he will throw at least 1 TD per game in 08.

Read the article again. They aren't for sale as SEASON TICKETS, however if the place sells out they will be for sale per game.

I was just browsing Profootballtalk.com & came across a picture posted there of an interior shot of the new dome in INDY. There are two HUGE columns with seats directly behind them. They asked.......Who designed this......a drunken 5th grader? If you want a good laugh check it out. I would imagine they would have to mark obstructed view on the ticket. They could not pay me enough to sit behind one of those things unless they provided a cheerleader for my lap.

When I moved down to Fla, wings had not become the national snack it is today. I missed them so much I started BBQing them, brushing on the sauce when they were about 3/4 done. People that have tried them say they are the best they have ever had. (I have many friends from Buffalo down here) If I need to get my son inlaw over to help me with something around the house, I just tell him I'm making wings after we finish.........works every time.

For what it is worth, WDAE has the inside track on the Bucs, I have heard many scoops on the Bucs & NFL in general which proved to be true on that station over the years. Ch 10 is the CBS affiliate with no ties to the Bucs.

I just heard it on WDAE 620 AM the BUCS flagship station in Tampa. They said Favre had permission to talk to the Bucs & also had a unique no trade clause in his contract so he could only be traded to teams he deemed acceptable.

Reports are Brett had dinner with the Bucs brass & toured the Bucs facilities last night after his interview with Greta.

The Bills have moved on, so must we all. (unless things change) I will wish JP good luck wherever he goes in 09.

Don't get a BUG up your AZZ. I have repeatedly stated I do not want to see Trent fail, & expecting him to fail & hoping he fails are 2 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT things. You know where I stand I don't LICK Trent's balls like you.

You are the crusading ball licker not I. Take your poor memory and reread the Trent posts, I read one just a couple days ago that said Trent could be a future HOF player. I do not want to see Trent fail, but in my view 7 TD's & 8 INT's is mediocre. Trent will have to show me more before I drink the KOOLADE.

I don't understand your reasoning. You feel along with others that JP has failed & EXPECT him to fail in the future. I don't see how this is any different than me expecting Trent to fail based on his past performance. I want Edwards to succeed the same way I want JP to succeed. The difference is you no longer want JP to succeed...... that is TRULY SAD. If Trent goes on to have a good year in 08 & the Bills win, I will be thrilled & be HAPPY to admit I was wrong about him. If Trent on the other hand plays as I expect him to & the Bills finish 8-8 or worse, the losers will be the Bills front office & the fans who thought Trent was better than he was, not I for pointing out his failure. Just because we have a difference of opinion on the talent of various players on the Bills does not mean either of us is less a fan of the team. If we sat next to each other at a game, I know we would get along & have a good time cheering for the Bills to win.

Go back and read through the posts, there have been a few people who thought Trent was a future HOF player. I AM A GREAT BILLS FAN. Expecting Trent to fail & WANTING him to fail are TWO COMPLETELY different things. I DO NOT want to see Trent fail, but I would not be surprised if he does. If Trent does fail, I can say I told you so. If Trent becomes a PRO BOWL QB, I'm SURE you and others will say I TOLD YOU SO also. If you would start Rodgers over Favre you are an idiot.

Favre played at a very high level last year. I think the reason he retired is he was not made to feel welcome to come back plus the Pack front office did nothing to try & improve the team free agent wise prior to Brett announcing his retirement.

I agree with you. I think Tampa is a much more likely place for Favre to end up and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bucs trade a #2 for him.

I agree, & Trent Edwards should also demand a trade. He is also in a no win situation. There are posters on this board proclaiming him to be a future HOF player & will likely end up being a failure.

The speculation in Tampa is the Bucs will trade for him. Garcia has a contract for 08 only & wants an extension. The Bucs so far have refused to offer him one, leading to the Favre speculation.....talk is a second round pick.

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Trent only threw 7 TD's last year with 8 INT's.

Trent had 8 INTS vs 7 TD's last year. Doesn't look very good to me.

JP will get his chance in the NFL, if not this year when Trent gets injured, then in 09 with a team of his choosing.

So you are saying a win or a loss is ALL on the QB. It doesn't matter how the team played as a whole or what team the Bills were playing against. Now I got it I will remember to judge Trent in 08 the same way.