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TBD 3 Round Mock Draft Discussion Thread
nichebiche replied to silvermike's topic in College Football
i'd be good with a the #43 and their 4th rounder for Turner. -
i'll take another team if needed. how bout dem Saints.
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all starters are signed thru the end of the 2008 season
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is English your 1st language? Borat? is that you?
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yeah, i don't see anything in this article said by Holcomb that slams the Bills. anything negative came directly from the writer. it's amazing to me how people have difficulty distinguishing who says what when reading stories on the internet. like the other day, when Chris Brown cut & pasted a section of a chat on espn.com with a PFW writer. the PFW writer said he thought the Bills were pursuing Michael Turner. all of a sudden, somebody reads it in Chris Brown's blog, and attributes the quote to Brown and his insider info. all he was doing was passing along a tidbit from a chat, and somebody turned around and made it sound like it was nearly a done deal because he managed to leave out some details. people, take some to read what is written and get your facts straight!!!
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i'll take the Cowboys
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a coin flip decides nothing. one team outplaying the other still decides the outcome.
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no he hasn't. the restricted free agency period ends April 20th. after that time, he could not consider offers from other teams. most of the activity in the restricted market happens just before the deadline, in hopes to catch teams strapped by the salary cap. if he signed the tender before then, he would be unable to entertain offers from other teams. if he goes unsigned by April 20th, his only choice would be to sign the tender.
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Double Trade Down If AP's there--
nichebiche replied to Astrobot's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
i think i would quit being a Bills fan if they had Peterson sitting in front of them when their turn came around at #12, and instead decided to trade the pick away. i love the thought of Okoye, would be happy with Willis, could deal with trading down in most scenarios to secure extra draft picks. however, i do not do any of those things if Peterson is on the board when they pick. it's alotta fun to dream up different fantasy scenarios when it comes to trading in the draft. if they trade down enough times, they could own 20 picks. the Bills have plenty of needs, but no matter how picks they own in this year's draft, not all of those players will be ready to contribute right away. forget about Peterson being injury prone. his legs, knees, ankles (one ankle sprain) and feet have never been a problem -- i'd be concerned if his lower body was a problem, but that isn't the case. Peterson's pro day focused on running routes and catching passes, and he looked great, so don't go with the argument that he can't catch. and RB is the one position that has the smallest learning curve of all coming out of college. after Peterson, no RB in this draft compares, not Lynch, not any of the 2nd/3rd round possibilities. why would you pass on a franchise RB who can start right away? the Bills don't NEED a MLB. Crowell will do very well if he stays there all year. by taking Peterson, the Bills could still take the best LB with one of their next 3 picks, whether inside or outside. the Bills would be crazy to let Peterson go if he fell into their laps at #12. they will still have plenty of options to fill other needs with the rest of their 3 1st day picks. -
why? to be fair and give everyone a chance? this isn't youth sports they're playing out there.... the receiving team on opening kickoff of on the 1st possession of OT wins 29% of the time. so, 7 out of 10 times, the other team gains possession. all in all, the team that gets the ball first wins 60%, which includes all possessions of OT. this means after at least one possession each, the team that got the ball 2nd still wins 4 out of 10 games. is this so out of whack that a change is needed? if the rule is changed to the college rules, what are the odds that the first team to get the ball wins? i bet it's not exactly 50/50. statistically, there must be some advantage to getting the ball first or second. no one quotes those stats though. i'd be interested to see what they are. bottom line -- the better team will prevail more often, whether they get the ball first or not. a good defense will stop the offense. a good offense will move down the field against the defense.
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here is the correct link.... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...ions/index.html
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/ins...&id=2796978 MOCK DRAFT: Mel Kiper's new First-Round Projection | March 13 1. Oakland - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU: Nothing changes at the top of the draft board. The Raiders passed on Leinart and Cutler last year, so opting away from another highly regarded signal caller won't happen this time around. Russell's physical prowess seems to have everyone "wowed" over. 2. Detroit - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame: The Lions have the option of selecting QB Brady Quinn, RB Adrian Peterson, trading down, or adding a pass rusher supreme like Gaines Adams to bolster what already has the makings of a standout defensive front with the Lions. By trading down, they could still get a player like Adams. Quinn though, may be too hard to pass up for an organization that needs a smart, tough, high profile signal caller like Quinn to become the face of the franchise. Remember, the Lions are one of the few teams that have never even been to a Super Bowl, let alone winning one. Additionally, they passed on Dan Marino back in 1983 and as recently as last year, opted away from Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler. 3. Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma: You would figure this choice to be between Peterson and Brady Quinn, depending upon whether the latter is still on the board. Both would look great in a Browns uniform. Veteran RB Jamal Lewis was only signed to a one-year deal, so this obviously doesn't preclude them from taking a potential franchise back like Peterson. 4. Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech: This pick will have both Jeff Garcia and Chris Simms smiling. Johnson is my top ranked player on the Big Board, so acquiring him with the fourth selection is a real bargain. 5. Arizona - Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin: Things are setting up perfectly for the Cardinals to remain at pick No. 5 and still bring a super blue chip left tackle like Thomas into the fold. Here, they get the No. 2 player on my big board with the fifth overall selection. Another great value type pick. 6. Washington - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson: This is the spot you figure to get some action. The Redskins currently don't have a second, third, or fourth round pick, so trading down in an effort to recoup choices has to definitely be in their thought process. If a deal is to be made, the best scenario would be to have either Quinn or Peterson still on the board. Both would be enticing for a number of clubs, as would higly regarded DB's Leon Hall and LaRon Landry. If the Redskins are forced to stand pat, DE's Gaines Adams and Jamaal Anderson would make the most sense. 7. Minnesota - LaRon Landry, S, LSU: The Vikings will have an opportunity here to upgrade the defensive secondary. The choice would be between safety LaRon Landry and CB Leon Hall. I'll go with Landry, since Brad Childress saw what a huge difference Brian Dawkins made to the Eagles deep patrol when he was on the staff with Andy Reid in Philadelphia. 8. Houston - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan: LT Levi Brown would have to draw serious consideration, but Hall is definitely on the rise back up the draft board after such an impressive showing at the Combine Workout. He also fills a positional need area for the Texans. 9. Miami - Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.: The Dolphins could certainly use a top flight left tackle, and Brown has the potential to become a top echelon NFL bookend. 10. Atlanta - Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas: The loss of Patrick Kerney in free agency makes this a need area, but the Falcons should be keeping their fingers crossed that either CB Leon Hall or S LaRon Landry is still on the board. 11. San Francisco - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC: The Niners need a featured wide-out for Alex Smith to throw to, and Jarrett proved against Michigan in the Rose Bowl that he is deserving of such a high grade. 12. Buffalo - Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville: I view Okoye as one of the top seven to eight players in this draft, so acquiring him at the 12th spot would be a great deal for the Bills. The 19-year-old phenom has been rising steadily up the draft board all year, overtaking Michigan's Alan Branch as the No. 1 DT in this draft because of his production with the pads on. With the trade of Willis McGahee to Baltimore, the Bills are also in the market for a RB. They probably can't deal up high enough to get Peterson, so Cal's Marshawn Lynch would have to be a possibility. 13. St. Louis - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan: Phyically imposing DT who could be a destructive performer in the NFL, provided he learns how to maximize all that ability and become a more consistent force along the interior. Branch has the edge at DT in terms of potential, but Okoye gets the nod when it comes to production. 14. Carolina - Greg Olsen, TE, Miami (Fla): Several months ago I had Olsen going to the Bears near the end of the first round. After a sensational effort at the Combine Workout, he's soared up the draft board to the point where Carolina and Green Bay have to be interested. The Panthers need a TE of Olsen's caliber. 15. Pittsburgh - Lawrence Timmons, LB, Florida St.: The Steelers are looking for flexibility at OLB in terms of how that player can be utilized. Timmons can operate with his hand down or on his feet, figuring to operate effectively in any defensive structure. 16. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, California: Now that Ahman Green has moved on in free agency, the Packers have to bring in a top notch RB. Lynch is one of the more aggressive RB's you will ever come across, with yards after contact his specialty. He also proved to be a much more effective pass catching option this past season, with his 34 receptions matching his total for the previous two campaigns. 17. Jacksonville - Ted Ginn, Jr. WR, Ohio St.: The temptation will be to go defense, since the Jags have addressed the offensive side on round one each of the last four years. That's why I thought seriously about CB Chris Houston and LB Jon Beason at this spot. In the end though, a player with Ginn's big-play potential, both at WR and in the return game, may be too hard to pass up. 18. Cincinnati - Jon Beason, LB, Miami (Fla): Beason didn't run as well as expected (4.74) at the Combine Workout, but his film evaluation grades, especially from 2005, figures to win out, placing him ultimately in the mid-late first round area. Marvin Lewis also knows first hand what it means to have a former Miami Hurricane setting the tone on your defense. 19. Tennessee - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska: Steady, technically sound, and extremely versatile, Carriker would qualify as a very "safe" pick at this juncture of round one. 20. New York Giants - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn St.: A Tom Coughlin type of prospect, with the passion and desire to excel on the gridiron that spills over to his teammates. If you look solely at his junior film from 2005 (116 tackles, 11 stops behind the line) and the Combine Workout (4.70 at 238 pounds, 37" vertical jump, 22 reps at 225 pounds), there is no question that Posluszny deserves to be a first round draft choice. 21. Denver - Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida: Pressuring the QB is something the Broncos need to do a better job of in 2007, and Moss qualifies as a potential sack artist. 22. Dallas - Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee: Not only did Meachem produce big results as a junior in 2006 (71 catches for an 18.3 yard average and 11 TD's), but he also turned heads at the Combine with his 4.39 clocking at 6-2, 214 pounds. The addition of such a talented young wideout would be a huge benefit to the Cowboys. 23. Kansas City - Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas: This is a need area for the Chiefs and several CB's figure to be intriguing as this point on round one. That group includes Houston, Pitt's Darrelle Revis, Texas's Aaron Ross, and UNLV's Eric Wright. I gave the edge to Houston because of the fact he ran in the 4.3's at the Combine and proved to be one of the stronger players pound for pound in the draft (27 reps). 24. New England (from Seattle) - Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss: Production, production, production, that's what you harp on with Willis. This kid finished just about every game, including the Senior Bowl, with 13+ tackles. Then came the Combine Meeting, where he ran an amazing 4.51 at 242 pounds and also came through with a 39" vertical jump. 25. New York Jets - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh: Good, solid football player with the size (5-11½, 205) you look for and a ton of athleticism. Had he produced as many big plays this past season as he did as a sophomore, you may have been looking at a top 15 pick. 26. Philadelphia - Steve Smith, WR, USC: Prior to the Combine Workout, I projected Smith as a mid second round draft choice. However, after posting a 40 time of 4.45, the days of viewing Smith as just a compimentary No. 2 wideout may have come to an end. 27. New Orleans - Aaron Ross, CB, Texas: Tough, aggressive football player who also brings excellent ball skills to the CB spot. He'd be a nice addition to the Saints deep patrol. If you are looking for a potential surprise pick in the later portion of round one, UNLV's talented CB Eric Wright could be the guy. The former USC Trojan ran in the 4.3's at the Combine and has a great deal of ability. 28. New England - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida: Nelson brings a great deal of versatility to the defensive secondary, as well as demonstrating in the SEC with the National Champion Gators that he is a proven play-maker. He can cover a lot of ground and will hit like you expect from a safety. 29. Baltimore - Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan: The former TE displays incredible feet, athleticism, and agility while operating at the critical LT spot, bringing with him the upside potential you look for at this point in the late first round. 30. San Diego - Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU: After the Senior Bowl practices, I really thought Bowe would hear his name called in the middle of the first round. While he seems to have lost a little momentum after running in the mid 4.5's to 4.60 at the Combine Workout, you have to remember that he checks in at 221 pounds. He also brings superlative natural pass receiving skills to the position. I'll give you a quick history lesson. Back in the 2001 NFL Draft, a WR with a similar scenario was the next-to-last pick in the first round and has turned out to be a quality performer at the pro level. The player I'm referring to is former Miami Hurricane Reggie Wayne, now a key entity on the Super Bowl champion Indianapolis Colts. 31. Chicago - Ben Grubbs OG Auburn: Offense figures to dicate the draft this year for the Bears. WR and TE are at the top of the need list, but adding a big time guard like Grubbs would significantly aid the likes of Cedric Benson and Rex Grossman. A WR to consider at this stage would be South Carolina's Sidney Rice. This is also the point in the draft where USC's highly regarded C-G Ryan Kalil could hear his name called, figuring as late first or very early second rounder. 32. Indianapolis - Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee: Had it not been for a season-ending (torn biceps) injury during the second game of the 2006 campaign, Harrell may have established himself as Top 15 choice in round one. Over the first two weeks, prior to the injury, he was a dominating performer. Good fortune would continue for the Super Bowl champion Colts if Harrell falls in their lap as the first round comes to an end.
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and they are only unknowns to you, all other Bills fans and i. the coaching staff and front office knows what they have.
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This is who the Bills will take with their #1 pick.
nichebiche replied to nichebiche's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
i agree with all of it. which area do you address first? whichever one has the best available player, the one who will make the greatest impact, not only this year, but years to come as this team stays together. do they take Brady Quinn? of course not, otherwise just about every other position is fair game, but not an absolute necessity. -
This is who the Bills will take with their #1 pick.
nichebiche replied to nichebiche's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
never said that any of that wasn't true. i believe all 4 positions you mentioned will likely be addressed in the draft during the 1st day. i'm just saying that the Bills won't be focused on any one of those areas with their first pick. they can use it to address any one of those areas with the best available player. 1. they will definitely draft a RB to at least share the duties with A-Train. 2. honestly, i'd rescind the tender to Anderson, but for now he plugs a hole until they draft/sign someone better 3. i believe they are happy with their LB's. they will be drafting for depth, not to replace Fletcher, as i believe Crowell be fine taking over and Ellison did his job well last year as a rookie and will only improve. they draft with the idea of replacing Spikes between now and 2009 when he becomes a free agent (if not sooner) 4. agreed, but i'm pretty sure they won't be drafting a CB with the idea that he will start right away. the player pool in this year's draft is defense-heavy. most likely, the Bills will use their top pick on defense and take a RB with one of their next 2 picks. -
http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4663
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This is who the Bills will take with their #1 pick.
nichebiche replied to nichebiche's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
so you say there is a crack. find it. -
if it is a 3rd year player option that was used, he would be a RFA and Pittsburgh would be able to match any deal if he was tendered at the lowest. being a 1st round draft pick, that would be the compensation if a team were to sign him with the Steelers failing to match. if it is a team option that they refused to pick up, he would become an UFA.
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the best player available. Buffalo has positioned themselves the take their top-ranked player in the draft, regardless of position, because they were able to reshape their O-Line early in free agency. with a month and a half to go before the draft, and the free agent market finally slowing, the Bills do not have as many major needs as most people think. i believe their next major addition will be a CB, either re-signing K. Thomas or getting a guy like Travis Fisher or one of the other lower priced but productive CB's left on the market. after that, all the starting spots on the team can be accounted for, so the team will be drafting to upgrade their team with the best available player and for depth. a RB will definitely be taken withing the 1st 3 rounds, as i believe the Bills think the draft will be place to get their RB of the future rather than a retread in free agency. Starters QB Losman RB Thomas/draft pick WR Evans - Price - Reed - Parrish TE Royal OL Peters - Dockery - Fowler - Walker/Preston/Whittle - Pennington/Butler/Walker DE Schobel - Denney/Kelsay/Hargrove DT Tripplet/McCargo - Williams/Anderson LB Ellison - Crowell - Spikes CB McGee - Youboty/Greer/FA S Whitner - Simpson K Lindell P Moorman people are calling for the Bills to take Patrick Willis at #12 because they feel the Bills have to replace Fletcher. Crowell will do just fine at MLB, so there is no absolute need there. if the Bills part ways with Spikes, it will be because they have signed a replacement. for those who think Buffalo takes a RB at #12, Peterson will not be there and maybe Lynch is the guy. however, there will be plenty of very good RB's available in Rounds 2 & 3, so they won't have to reach for Lynch if they feel better players at other positions are available. CB? if the Bills sign one in free agency, they'll have 4 guys under contract, no need there. this leaves the Bills with lots of flexibility. stand pat and take a guy like Okoye/Branch/Willis/Lynch/CB, whoever happens to fall. trade up and grab Peterson (not likely, but he'd look good in Red, White & Blue). trade down, accumulate picks and build depth. i'm not going to predict players because so much time remains in free agency that could change things. i just believe the Bills are not in bad shape at all. with a good draft, they will be much better this year and will contend for the playoffs. however, 2008 is the year for Buffalo -- http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=60801
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give a guy 20-25 carries a game and he better reach the 66 yds/game behind this O-Line that would reach him 1000 yards over the course of a season. and, you don't need a proven back to be your starter on opening day. history shows that RB is one of the easiest positions for a rookie to come in and start right and away. i don't believe the Bills will go out and sign anyone else. they will rely on the draft to find their RB of the future.
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hmmm.... a guy not good enough to start for the Browns. probably not. what are your thoughts??? besides wanting to bring in every guy who is rumored to be on the market, that is....
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sorry, but nowhere here does he "hate" on the Bills. by saying that the Ravens did a good job to replace Lewis and continuously reload their team despite losing top players is not "hating" on the Bills. calling the Ravens crafty is a reflection on the Ravens getting McGahee to fill a glaring hole, not on Buffalo not getting enough.
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ESPN Says McGahee probably to Baltimore by this weekend
nichebiche replied to mackey7789's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
yes, it looks like it will be a 2nd, but it's pretty much a 3rd being pick #61. but, getting a 5th in addition is def. better than any deal i would have expected. didn't wanna see him get traded, but i guess it's just time to move on.... -
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791102
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not ridiculous at all. AP is arguably the 2nd best player in the draft. who is clearly better? not many RB's project to be an elite every down back. Peterson is one. if Cleveland doesn't put him behind their rebuilt OL, some other team will trade up for him. plenty of teams would like to have the next LT, LJ, Alexander, etc. instead of using a rotation. in fact, Cleveland would be foolish to not grab him at #3 with what they have to choose from. who would you rather have -- a broken down Jamal Lewis or a dynamic player like Adrian Peterson? LJ, McGahee and Steven Jackson were mentioned as guys who fell into the 20's. they all had question marks and were not projected to be drafted any higher. their RB draft classes were considered weak, without having a standout guy. Peterson, on the other hand, has been among the best RB's in college since he nearly won the Heisman as a freshman. he has been injured, but they have all been freak-type injuries in nature. his injury history is being used by some savvy GM's to try to get him to drop in the draft, otherwise there are no questions about him. i'd love to see Peterson in a Bills uni, but he is not gonna fall to #12, and i don't see Levy giving up what it would take to move up to get him. maybe he will prove me wrong.