BillsVet

How old were you in 1994 when Johnson was drafted?

Not the same scenario. Wood was a Bill for 9 seasons and had no real reputation issues. Incognito has been maligned for years, came here (for a second tenure) and had been on the roster 3 seasons. People hate this because 1) he's Richie Incognito and 2) it means their team is left in the lurch. Why this becomes personal is beyond me. I wish he would have retired much sooner and given them time to plan, but life happens. Players have the right to retire when they want. And this isn't the same scenario as Eric Wood.

McCoy isn't worth anything in the draft save for a late round pick. 30 yo RBs on a big contract aren't worth squat to other NFL teams. AFA Incognito is concerned, why do people take it personally when their favorite team has a player retire? They don't owe the fans their bodies on the field of play. Dude's played 10+ NFL seasons and people make it sound like he still owes the fans and team something.

By reversing this logic, all RBs coming out of USC will be great. You've got OJ, Marcus Allen, Frank Gifford, et al. Ergo, it's appropriate to select Ronald Jones with Buffalo's highest pick. Sometimes this board resembles (in digital form) the scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail where they are debating whether someone is a witch.

One of the most talked about threads? Sure whatever. You've ranked Russ Brandon, Marv Levy, and Buddy Nix ahead of Bill Polian? Sorry dude, not buying it.

QBorBust2018...obviously a bust.

Letting the draft come to a team...the Buddy Nix draft day strategy. This has been the longest off-season and there's still 2 weeks left.

Evaluating human beings of any kind is extremely difficult. I've seen good managers hire bad employees who had great resumes. NFL front offices are getting smarter drafting but it's still tough to predict who'll cut it, particularly at QB. I don't see teams as eager like they were in 2011 to take QBs. When Ponder went 12th to Minnesota that was the low water mark.

The number of posters who start inane threads based on random thoughts in their heads is suffocating.

The timing of this...it's amazing someone dropped this now. I'm shocked...shocked. Someone wants Mayfield and is muddying the waters to do so. Or they're running him down to hurt him personally. People fall for anything these days. The final two weeks leading up to the draft will be a lot of subterfuge and all so teams can get their guy. The writers/sports personalities who run this stuff know they're being led on and used. The kid did something wrong, but to character assassinate him before the draft is reprehensible.

Especially considering the HC is a defense guy and the front 7 is aging and not really talented. Why Rudolph? Because he's available this year? Teams are drafting smarter and that might mean holding off on QB's in the first round when they've got obvious flaws. I can see him slipping into the 2nd.

Billfrom NYC's head will explode. A first round DB with the first name Donte? Oh yeah, one of the best poster's here will not handle that well.

Vote of confidence at times is really just a pending separation. Reminds me of the Titans owner talking about Mularkey and he was fired days later after losing in the divisional round. Normal NFL franchises with new GMs and HCs typically get their guy at QB unless they inherit a really good one. The primary thing which would preclude Gettleman from taking a QB is whether he wants to compete this season. He's a 67 year old GM in his first year at the helm with NYG, so I'm thinking he wants to compete out of the box. Having a QB battle in camp between the 2nd overall pick and Manning (provided he's not dealt) would be difficult for a new HC and GM. And I don't see Manning being dealt on draft day.

11 years on TBD and I've never been called a Nazi. Nice job Hondo. I don't have the power to "censor" you and no one's doing that. You've made your point. So, now it's time to move on and stop arguing with anyone who disagrees with you. Have some respect.

You've started 5 threads in the past 2+ days on what you want to do at QB. Give it a rest. Deal with the fact you're not going to convince people that sitting tight at 12 or waiting until next year is the way to go.

No team has completely rebuilt unless they have a QB who can make plays and win games for them. The fastest way to rebuild a team is to get the QB. Buddy Nix proved that trying to improve everything but the QB does not work, or at the least (with Whaley) it doesn't work very long. Get the QB.

That ended after the playoff game and QB anxiety season began.

I can't wait until people stop posting new threads every five minutes about what Buffalo will do, what they want them to do, and what they're in outright fear they're going to do.

If McBeane move up then I trust they'll do the right thing in trade value. If they don't, well, it's personally disappointing but the HC and GM have a much better handle than I ever will. I'm convinced this positioning to add picks going back to the 2017 first round has a purpose. Whether it's ammunition to trade up for a QB is another matter. They have a primary and contingency plans. It's what they've been working on and what they'll continue to refine until the draft begins. They also won't make knee-jerk decisions like some fans are demanding.

The hype train for certain prospects seems to have hit the stride. Allen and Jackson are the latest examples. It's a combination of multiple factors why Buffalo likely takes a QB: 1) The trades to accumulate picks the past year. 2) Buffalo not having a long term answer at QB. 3) The team's comments and actions last season about a QB. 4) The draft itself and 5) number of higher quality/hyped QB prospects coming out this year In this draft I wouldn't expect a QB to drop. There are too many teams with needs or a threat to take one.

Buddy Nix talking about being in bed when UFA opened up in 2010. And Dockery of course. He went all Cordy Glenn around 2008.

Maybe Cordy put his foot down, really wanted to play guard, and disagreed with Buddy Nix all along.

If this happens, yeah. This draft cannot come soon enough.

From 06-09 Marv/Jauron/Brandon used the draft to fill needs far too often and wound up taking lesser prospects as a result. It was a perfect storm of bad back then: tight finances to spend in UFA, bad drafting and multiple scheme changes. Beane's been around and it's not his first rodeo, but this has to be a foundational draft for the franchise. Anything less is unacceptable.