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Because many Bills fans have a huge inferiority complex and act as if criticism is directed at they the fan. The board should have a resident psychologist for instances when a national figure dares question what the Bills are doing. Dozens of posters have come and gone who went after those who expressed skepticism the franchise had turned a corner over the years. What's funny is hearing someone with the name "Logic" say that it's perfectly normal to get all emotional and start expecting big things without demonstrable results. No, the truth is, after all these years it's actually logical to hedge your bets and let things play out before getting worked up that everything has changed. Anything else is just illogical.

Long and Miller probably have similar contracts. The agent talks up the total dollars, fans get carried away with it, but the guaranteed money is very little. IIRC, Long's deal only guaranteed 1.2M. I'd bet Miller's deal is along the same lines.

Why jump to the extreme and declare that people "hate" Zay. It's an issue of him not getting involved, although some of that is on the QB situation, Foster out-played him down the stretch as a former UDFA. Beane didn't pick Zay, and as I've heard all along, has nothing to do with the acquisitions prior to becoming GM in early May 2017. And, sometimes praise is the kiss of death. Ever see the Godfather?

Many writers and insiders have already stated the nature of these contracts and what you've posted here. The Bills are on paper better than last year and have set themselves up to go BPA in the draft. That's what their stated intention was. I still wonder whether or not they can make the leap from being a 6 to 11 win team and challenging for the division. Much of that still rests with the QB who has shown glimpses. Regardless of the contract specifics, it shapes up to be a deeper team that gives Allen the opportunity to succeed.

I take it Joe and dev/null aren't fully functional anymore. Sad. I've heard there's medication for those sorts of problems.

Their PS4 will be broken within months and our tinker toys will be fully functional.

What happened to the first 2 off-seasons? Not the process? People have short memories. Their free agent moves last year, as others have pointed out, were not good. You'd hope they got their stuff straight this year and those signings of guys not named Morse will bear a better return.

Marv and DJ's first go-round in 2006 UFA was about the same quantity of UFAs: DT Larry Tripplett TE Robert Royal C Melvin Fowler WR Peerless Price G Tutan Reyes S Matt Bowen CB Kiwaukee Thomas QB Craig Nall RB Anthony Thomas WR/KR Andre Davis But that wasn't the same in terms of quality. At least on the surface it wasn't.

Jimmy Haslam and OBJ in the same organization? That's some dysfunction junction action right there. There's still only one ball on offense and with those personalities it's going to be real interesting.

It's time to get a hobby if you've prioritized telling people "I told you so" about UFA signings on day 2 of the new league year. Pat yourself on the back. Job well done. Yep, it's guaranteed they're taking down NE in the division now. Didn't anyone learn the lesson that "winning the off-season" ain't all it's cut out to be? Doesn't matter...egos are involved and ripping fellow fans is the status quo.

Does this qualify OBD for the off-season version of the Lombardi Trophy?

A guy with the name "Logic" makes a general statement that free agents won't come to Buffalo and points to this UFA signing period as evidence. We forget that John Brown turned Buffalo down last year and it's logical to deduce that he went to Baltimore because they were closer to competing for a title. This, as opposed to Buffalo featuring Nate Peterman and likely a rookie at QB. Buffalo took Josh Allen last year and I'd say most fans think he'll take a step in the right direction in 2019. Still, as a player, you want to win AND get paid. It's why someone like Teddy Bridgewater turned Miami down to remain New Orleans' backup. It's why higher end UFAs like Morse, Brown, and Beasley are now willing to come to Buffalo. When you win or players think you've got a legit chance to win, your team becomes more attractive. That and you offer a lot of money. Buffalo still has a lot to prove on the field, but they've made some moves in the right direction because players think they're finally getting it right. I don't think there's a fan-base in the entire NFL with more of an inferiority complex. Yet, if you win, they'll come (apologies to Ray Kinsella) and hopefully Buffalo turns around after 20 years of bad to mediocre football so they can continue to attract better talent.

Getting the QB first and building an offense should have been priority 1 in 2017. Instead, McCoach built a secondary and passed on 2 good QB prospects. The signings today are a step in the right direction, although I'd make the case offense should have been a priority 2 years ago. Teams can't maintain top defenses for more than 3-4 years at a time. But you can maintain a solid offense by getting the QB, skill types, and blockers to score more than 16 ppg.

The bid was submitted nearly 5 years ago. What's the true purpose of doing this now? Did the previous 2 AGs miss this and the current one all of a sudden figure it out? I doubt it.

Nice try.

Beane was not the GM when Poyer and Hyde were signed.

I never put it together until now - the clapping is intended to heal players who are banged up. That's how he keeps 'em in the game.

This year with ~80M in cap room it's an even harder sell to talk about unproven rookies as opposed to the better free agents. OBD needs to start doing some winning. Fans are tired of consolation prizes.

You quoted Incarcerated Bob?

John Idzik was replaced with Mike Maccagnan after 2014 so yes, you are correct.

Jets following Buffalo's lead in clearing the decks of previous regimes' draft picks. Not one remains from the 2012-2015 Nix/Whaley classes.

Look, I'm not going to play the prove a negative game with you. If true, it says plenty about a franchise with tremendous needs on their offense to pursue a RB in his mid-30s. Usually, a team has priorities, and someone like Frank Gore isn't going to attract interest from a dozen teams. You go after the most in-demand types, which I would imagine are the pass rushers and OL. We'll see if they can adequately multi-task in the negotiation game.

Not sure how old you are, but it's been forever since this team competed for a championship. The natives are restless and, after 2 years of this "process" talk not excited to hear about their interest in a backup RB even if it is a standup dude. Still, if Buffalo were all-in on building through the draft and patching things with UFAs...why the interest in AB last week? Your logic here only goes to the surface level, because if you think the HC and GM entering year 3 of this rebuild don't recognize they are under more pressure, you're missing the forest for the trees. This is a pivotal year in their rebuild and they have to show results, especially after clearing the cap they did leading to a 6-10 last year. Taking a patient approach, signing some bargain bin types, drafting well, and some day maybe signing your own isn't going to get them into the playoffs anytime soon. Ownership, I would hope and expect, is watching. 7-9 ain't gonna cut it next year with another pedestrian offense.

Gore would've fit in almost any NFL era and there's nothing wrong if he's still got some life. Good locker room presence I'm sure. I could get behind Williams. I'm most interested to see if McBeane can swing any trades. The free agent market is typically thin and I''d like to see who becomes available and whether a deal gets made. If they end up with a premier WR and fortify the OL and sign a guy like Gore...we'll, it'd be nice. Offense has to be the priority from here on out, although pass rush needs help as well.

Signing another defensive free agent to a big contract is the McCoach way of starting the signing period.