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Whaley made a trade for a WR in a draft where that position was loaded, perhaps on par with the 1996 draft. That he doubled down on Manuel when there was evidence that he couldn't play didn't help his case either.

That's a low standard and glosses over the idea that skill players are less readily available than linemen on either side of the ball. (EDIT: save top pass rushers DE/OLB) I'll put it another way. If they have a grade on a TE/WR similar to a DT/OT and you go with the latter, it's the same tired ideology. One cannot ignore that offensive skill players at the aforementioned positions contribute more to wins than do linemen.

Dareus was drafted high because he was stout against the run and could rush the passer, as evidenced by his 28.5 sacks from 2011-2014. It was his versatility that scouts loved. That discounts the positional value perspective to drafting, which is why teams trade up for QB more than any other position. A good QB is a better force multiplier than a really good DT. At the same time, I'm not opposed to taking a solid LT and kicking Dawkins to LG. Still, Allen needs more options in the passing game, which as I've said doesn't feature anyone scary. Foster had 4 solid games in his final 8 last year. Zay isn't a huge threat. Brown has 50 or more catches 1 time in 5 seasons and Beasley, while nice, is a short area target.

Who said anything about reaching? Ed Oliver may be a fine player, but from a positional value standpoint he's not worth more as an interior DL than a good WR or TE who poses a match-up issue for opposing defenses. Buffalo's offense doesn't feature one guy who a defensive coordinator is losing sleep over.

Ed Oliver is not going to be your run stopper or hold up against double teams. He's needs to line up as a 3 technique and win with speed and athleticism one v one.

The best way to beat Brady is keep him off the field. Drafting Dareus really didn't make a big dent in taking down NE. Why would Oliver do it?

Buffalo's DL depth beyond this season is thin and I could easily see McBeane taking someone in the first round to fit that need. It is a strong draft for that area, so there's likely going to be good DL talent available at 9 or wherever they pick on Day 1 of the draft. This would be the conventional approach and predictable given the HC’s background. Yet, each of the four conference championship participants last year featured elite offenses who could easily put up points (cue the person who references the SB final score). In fact, 11 of the 12 playoff teams scored at least 22.9 points per game during the regular season. This is an offensive driven league now and has been for quite some time. With this in mind, I don’t see how taking a DT makes this team that much better. IMO, the only position on defense they should draft in the first round should be a pass rusher. Point is, McBeane need to continue surrounding Allen with skill types. That may mean the HC gets by with less on defense, but so be it. For as many offensive UFA signings as they made, none of the skill ones are dynamic save perhaps John Brown and that’s pushing it. They invested so much in Allen, so it stands to reason they give him another weapon to use. Going WR or TE in the first round is a sign McBeane acknowledge they need to be a modern NFL offense.

Oddball...great movie, great clip. Also liked, "We have a loudspeaker here, and when we go into battle we play music, very loud. It kind of... calms us down." Amazing to think that since 2006, the Bills have entered the first round picking between 8 and 12 in ten out of thirteen years. That's some consistency. And those picks ended up as Whitner, Lynch, McKelvin, Maybin, Spiller and Gilmore. They traded out of their pick in 2013, 2014, and 2017.

Buffalo will draft defense in rounds 1 and 2. For the 14th year in a row the Bills will not take a TE in rounds 1-3.

Not totally opposed to take a TE high, but as long as McD is the HC, I can't see him accepting them passing on the available DL. Especially after their off-season. He's a defense first coach, as evidenced by personnel acquisitions in the first 2 off-seasons, 2 DE's are in the final year of their deals and he loves his DT's. Not to mention, H. Phillips is a rookie and J. Phillips is on a one year deal. Still, drafting offense in the first is what a team that at times couldn't score last year should do. Then again, McD doesn't strike me as the type who accepts where the game is in 2019.

Great quote. Also featured at the end of the movie Patton.

Kelly Stafford's brother is current Buffalo WR coach Chad Hall. Prayers for that family!

Buffalo needs to get guys who will help them score more points than their opponent. And, then get players who help them stop the other team from scoring points. If they can do that, I think they'll win at least 10 games. And if they win 10 games, I expect they'll have a playoff team. That sounds like a Frank Caliendo Madden impression. Is Brett Favre available?

Hosting Ferguson is another indication the process has been "revised" now that there's an expectation of winning more games in 2019. The process is an ambiguous plan that exists to demonstrate the coach has credibility. No one knows what it is anymore than Dorothy knew the Wizard of Oz.

Pot meet kettle.

Another outstanding member of the forum driven away. I cannot believe the loss of civility that's taken place here where even simple debate is practically impossible. I really think the board serves as a microcosm for where society is going, and it's not good. Incessant arguing, an inability to listen, or the ability to agree to disagree. Some people ultimately decide to leave and replaced with those who have never heard the word decorum.

More posters over the last few years see TBD as their very own clickbait opportunity. The self-centered types also live and die based on getting to post something before anyone else. Sad.

Because many Bills fans have a huge inferiority complex and act as if criticism is directed at they the fan. The board should have a resident psychologist for instances when a national figure dares question what the Bills are doing. Dozens of posters have come and gone who went after those who expressed skepticism the franchise had turned a corner over the years. What's funny is hearing someone with the name "Logic" say that it's perfectly normal to get all emotional and start expecting big things without demonstrable results. No, the truth is, after all these years it's actually logical to hedge your bets and let things play out before getting worked up that everything has changed. Anything else is just illogical.

Long and Miller probably have similar contracts. The agent talks up the total dollars, fans get carried away with it, but the guaranteed money is very little. IIRC, Long's deal only guaranteed 1.2M. I'd bet Miller's deal is along the same lines.

Why jump to the extreme and declare that people "hate" Zay. It's an issue of him not getting involved, although some of that is on the QB situation, Foster out-played him down the stretch as a former UDFA. Beane didn't pick Zay, and as I've heard all along, has nothing to do with the acquisitions prior to becoming GM in early May 2017. And, sometimes praise is the kiss of death. Ever see the Godfather?

Many writers and insiders have already stated the nature of these contracts and what you've posted here. The Bills are on paper better than last year and have set themselves up to go BPA in the draft. That's what their stated intention was. I still wonder whether or not they can make the leap from being a 6 to 11 win team and challenging for the division. Much of that still rests with the QB who has shown glimpses. Regardless of the contract specifics, it shapes up to be a deeper team that gives Allen the opportunity to succeed.

I take it Joe and dev/null aren't fully functional anymore. Sad. I've heard there's medication for those sorts of problems.

Their PS4 will be broken within months and our tinker toys will be fully functional.

What happened to the first 2 off-seasons? Not the process? People have short memories. Their free agent moves last year, as others have pointed out, were not good. You'd hope they got their stuff straight this year and those signings of guys not named Morse will bear a better return.

Marv and DJ's first go-round in 2006 UFA was about the same quantity of UFAs: DT Larry Tripplett TE Robert Royal C Melvin Fowler WR Peerless Price G Tutan Reyes S Matt Bowen CB Kiwaukee Thomas QB Craig Nall RB Anthony Thomas WR/KR Andre Davis But that wasn't the same in terms of quality. At least on the surface it wasn't.