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Haynesworth will be re-signed by the Titans. They would never allow him to get on the market. As much as there's a deal that he can go UFA, Tennessee won't let him walk out the door. Suggs, I can see hitting the market, but does anyone think Buffalo's spend 9M+ for another DE? There are some decent starting centers, but they're long in the tooth. I'm talking about Saturday, Birk, and Meester. With Buffalo having a yearly youth movement, they won't be acquiring anyone very old. They may sign one name guy, but it won't matter. DJ by himself removes this team from games.

He has absolutely no handle on the situation. If it were as easy a decision as RW made it out to be, why couldn't he say that during the season or even yesterday? I'm of the belief, as many else are, that it was motivated by financial benefit to himself. Jeff Littman wouldn't be there if that weren't the case. Lastly, with a difficult schedule looming next season, moving forward will be hard to come by. If Buffalo had 22 All-Pro's, I'm confident after witnessing first hand from my front row seat how inept DJ truly is. He single-handedly loses games, and it's not going to change after being in the league as a HC for 8 seasons.

And it will be. They just guaranteed it with this move.

Is it any coincidence that DJ coached teams can't do anything offensively? Some idiot will say it's always players, but over the past six seasons he's been a full time HC, no DJ coached team has had an offense which ranked higher than 25th in total yards. Jauron record per PFR Since 2002, he's never been higher than 17th in points scored. And yes, I am removing the 2001 season, which officially was a fluke. The offense is a problem because DJ manages the offense his way, no matter who fills the OC role.

Ralph had this to say: "In my discussions with Dick and our senior football people the issues are recognized and I am confident they will be addressed.” Who exactly are those senior football people? Guy wasn't there, and neither was Overdorf. Not that they're all-star executives, but Ralph has absolutely no one to advise him on football matters. Modrak is an old scout, and Brandon couldn't find talent if it was his own kid. There are no senior football people because like Al Davis, RW only wants to hear what he wants to hear.

No, we cannot. I don't expect to get every tidbit or nugget of inside info, but nothing they say is close to honest. The Bills expend so much energy selling this team, and it's not going to work this season. I think the fans have eaten the PR spin for as long as they will. This decision sends a powerful message that no rational fan can ignore. And that is that Ralph is here to make money, team be da*ned.

Tony Sparano is getting 3M per to win games. And he's a rookie coach. Our coach is thankful to be anything more than a position coach.

Chris Brown is part of the OBD spin machine. Oh sure, he says something negative once in a blue moon, but he's a mouthpiece for this team. He probably gets his marching orders from Scott Berchtold or Brandon. Either way, he's a never going to be very objective. . I'm sure if you asked him outside of his job what he thought, he'd say this organization is run like the Cleveland Indians of Major League fame. But why bite the hand that feeds you?

What we saw this season from Schonert went counter to his bluster before the season began. With that in mind I agree that DJ had certain control over TS' calls. Ultimately, the HC can overrule the OC anytime he wants. It wouldn't surprise me if DJ micromanaged his OC when things got tough later in the season. It almost seemed like when things were close, the string on TS became tighter and the plays were even more unimaginative. When they scored and got a lead, TS could do his thing, as evidenced in KC.

One thing that hasn't changed in 30 years is how poor the Cincinnati and Detroit franchises have been. To pin their entire success or failure on one DB is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read on TSW. And I've read some real doozies. DJ isn't a winning HC, but I'll say this for the man: he played 8 seasons in the National Football League. That's more than just about anyone on this entire board. He also was a standout RB in the Ivy League, while having a 4.0 throughout college. Go ahead and dislike him for being an underachiever as a HC. But don't discount his entire NFL career because he played for bad teams. Ernie Banks played for some bad Cubs teams during his career. Does that make him a loser? Ted Williams made it to one World Series, but he's widely considered the best hitter in MLB history. And that's coming from a Yankees fan. Dick Butkus played on some poor Chicago teams from 65-73, as did Gale Sayers. So your point is a pathetic one at best. Not sure why I'm running to the defense of a bad HC, but it's only fair to show how hollow your opinion is.

I see diplomacy isn't your strong suit. And for the record, Marv was not hired in Jan 06 to be the HC. He was brought on to be the GM, a position he'd never handled in the NFL. ML may have say in on draft day and gave his opinion, but he did not work in the front office for this or any other team. It was a poor hiring which was short term. Unfortunately, RW never adequately planned for the future after Levy.

Caldwell is the pick to succeed Tony Dungy upon the latter's retirement. Cannot see him leaving the organization, no matter which job opens up.

In all fairness (and I don't care for DJ the HC) he wasn't a bad player. His rookie season he made the Pro Bowl team, and had 25 career INT's with 2 TD returns. That, as a converted college RB at Yale and probably undersized FS in the pros. Those Detroit and Cincinnati teams would not have been good with him.

Jeff Littman is the power behind this franchise. He's the guy who keeps track of the money, and as such, is the man behind the scenes. He's been in the position 20+ years, and reportedly his dispute with Polian was a factor in BP being fired. He is the CFO and RW's right hand man. His opinion counts for a lot, and with profits never being enough, he influences RW a lot. Yet we never hear about him beyond these meetings.

Funniest thing I've read all day.

The relationship between the team and player sure wasn't all that good at the beginning of September. It's possible he's received little interest on the UFA market, but it's early, and I don't think teams have zeroed in on free agents. It also may be a way of the player making nice and wanting to look more attractive to other teams. I'm sure a rebuilding team like KC, STL, DET, et al would prefer an experienced player in their LB corps. And I think they'd be willing to pay. Buffalo won't out-bid anyone for his services.

Only one player came to the tunnel side EZ to greet Bills fans who remained. I sit in 123, and FJ came by to give high fives. He's a class act IMHO.

Mangini had one playoff appearance in 3 seasons and gets the ax. 23-25 in three seasons and he's fired. NYJ made huge investments in Favre, Faneca, Pace, et al, but could not win with EM. Sadly, 21-27 is probably good enough in Buffalo for DJ. I still don't understand what there is to evaluate about the HC here, unless of course they're reviewing the loss to cut DJ or keep him and realize a significant decline in season tickets that will occur next season.

Changes appear on the horizon: Modrak getting into the inner-circle. (Is there a rite of initiation for this?) They'll be some top secret meetings for the inner-circle in FLA for the top brass and RW. The PR machine will kick into overdrive and, voila, they'll be another exciting season of DJ and the Buffalo Bills. A lyric from The Who seems appropriate: "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."

Bakay "The Curse" Only one thing Nick gets wrong in this segment. He thinks someone other than Ralph made the choice to start Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie. Wade would never have removed a QB who went 10-5 in the regular season. Just figured we needed something other than another thread about who'll succeed DJ when he's fired.

14-25 for 128 yards. 0 TD 0 INT. 4 rushes for 20 yards. On a day when Cassell goes 6-8 for 78 yards and ran 3 times for 19 yards, you're criticizing Edwards. Surely Cassell out-played Trent by quite a bit with that stat line. The wind you didn't experience had nothing to do with the offensive gameplanning. Goodness gracious, I was there to see a 4th and 1 with no backs. I saw the 3rd and 9 run which didn't quite get the first. You yourself have pointed to the lack of coaching for a 2nd year QB with less than a season and a half worth of starts in the NFL. Doesn't playcalling influence the success or failure of any QB, especially one with about 20 NFL starts? EDIT: Considering DJ teams are never offensively strong, and TS hasn't OC'd a team ever, shouldn't their record also enter into the consideration. Criticize the areas that deserve it: The HC and OC who have been outcoached by several guys, including Sparano (2x), Mangini, Belichick (2x), Whisenhunt, Crennel, and Singletary. Go ahead and take issue with a QB who has about 1/10 the amount of games played as his HC has served in that function. Or the OC who's been in the league for 20+ years. Blame it on TE and ignore those obvious facts.

For the record, Caroll didn't seem interested to take the ATL job last year. At the time it wasn't a marquee position, but Carroll gets about 25 first round picks every year recruiting. I'm not sure he'd ever leave SoCal for any NFL job.

Bobo did you attend the festivities in Orchard Park this afternoon? Part of the fieldhouse roof came off the winds were so strong. Because you at most watched this game from home, I find your opinion here to be severely lacking. Sincerely, The wind.

Never seen you resort to name calling before. After three years, it's fair to judge a draft. 06 wasn't good, despite the revisionist history. Whitner's play, both before and after the shoulder injury, was not sufficient. I find it funny people blame the DL, yet it's that same area people wanted to build first before selecting safeties. Marv Levy and his consensus building decision makers were wrong. They were wrong. And by the way (some will see this as cheap) but Dean I was at the game. Swirling winds in excess of 40MPH, yet you're blaming the QB on this one. Were you at the game to make this conclusion?

RB should stick to handling the business/marketing side of this team. He can keep doing those Time Warner commercials, but he's no substitute for a genuine football person who knows how to run that side of the operation. If nothing changes this off-season in the front office and in coaching, it's clear he's just a face for the organization. Not sure RW will let him make decisions that must be made.