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Butler's been injured each year he's been in the league. I don't think it was a stretch to believe he'd get hurt in 2009, especially when he's facing better athletes at DE and/or OLB. It's like making plans not to have a decent backup QB with Edwards as the starter. Bell was not ready when they pressed him into duty. He's struggled, but the idea we're depending mightily on a guy who hadn't played organized football previous to 2005 is weird

Remember the "would you rather have NC or Dockery and Walker" posts? Keeping Nate would have allowed them to use future picks on players that added to the roster, and weren't replacing departed UFAs.

Re: Marv, why does it take nearly 4 years after his hiring and 2 since he retired for some fans to realize it was a PR gimmick to sell tickets. RW didn't want to hire someone he didn't know, and Marv wanted back in. No one wanted Marv as GM, which is eerily reminiscent of the TO acquisition. The Bills found name people who were able to generate some excitement in the franchise. Gimmicks do not cover up the gaping hole in management from owner to GM to HC. Because those are the people, specifically GM and HC, who find players. And that 53 man roster is woefully lacking at so many positions.

Considering they've got Corto, Nic Harris, and Palmer at LB it seems they're taking the best of a bad lot. Entering the season with such youth and inexperience at the position is negligent on the front office's part. Then again, if cutting costs is the objective they've succeeded wonderfully. I'm sure the four backups aren't making what Mitchell does in one season.

Buggs, like Corto and Palmer, are UDFA's. There have been UDFA's who've succeeded, but generally they don't cut it. Exception person can say something about the James Harrison's of the NFL, but it's not likely. Let's see what Palmer can do I guess, because it's not like they've got a lot of options. It's nice to see someone express anger about the garbage play which they showed on Sunday. Dick Jauron will remain the same, and I've got to believe that Fewell knows his career could be in jeopardy after his defenses yielded 472 rushing yards in two games.

Tebow getting 40M guaranteed for being a third round pick will be the ultimate holdout-forever.

1) It's been 9 seasons since the last playoff appearance, but you're a glutton for punishment. What happened last year on the way to 2-8 to finish? Which excuse do you have for that performance? 2) I don't take pleasure seeing a team have ONE winning season this decade. You're content with this and don't think there's another bad season on the way. You're fine with repeated losing, to the tune of 61-87 this decade and keep finding reasons why things aren't bad. Apparently you're fine with this and have posted repeatedly that results aren't important so long as there's another season to "hope" we win. 3) You can be positive all you want, but you're delusional to think this team is playoff bound. If you can't win enough after 9 seasons, the excuse making is over. Besides, DJ, Marv, Brandon the GM without any power have had four off-seasons to win. What have the Bills done this season to show they're close to being a winning franchise?

How hard is it to predict you'd post in this thread? BADOL called it, you don't like that he's right, and voila, we have a C. Biscuit sighting.

So now we can judge draft classes 4 weeks into a season? That's a new record. And even if these guys are good, you've gotta have more than one good draft. 2006-08 look only average.

Or "Cash to Ralph's pocket"

IIRC, Mitchell struggled in the middle with KC back in 2006 because it's not his natural position. Guess this means the Marcus Buggs experiment is over. Then again, Russ and Dick like their guys. Nic Harris moves to S, Mitchell to MLB, Seth McKinney at DT in goaline situations, Scott and Chambers starting. What's not to love? It's a bush league franchise.

I think successful teams do what it takes for them to win. Small markets don't normally spend big to compete, but rely on good drafting and smart under the radar UFA signings. Big market teams spend big in the hopes of winning with name talent. MIN went big this season to try and help gain a stadium from the state of Minnesota. They signed Favre to win, which could result in getting a new home. They're a unique case. In this decade, big and small markets have won the SB. TB, PIT, IND, and BAL aren't huge markets, but combined they've won 5 titles. The other 4 went to big markets: NE and NYG. I didn't phrase my point well, as I'm at work. Sorry about that. I think Bills fans will see a trade like the B. Edwards deal and wonder why NYJ is making all effort to win now, while Buffalo is struggling to keep their collective heads above water. The Bills are telling us they're fine with what they've got. And we know that's a joke of an excuse.

If anyone doubted the NYJ wanted to be contenders for the SB, this erases that. Cue the fans who say we can't compete because we won't spend. Of course that ignores that PIT, IND, SD, NO and MIN are also small markets.

I think it was simply semantics. You emphasized a bolded part of a previous post which referenced "revenue sharing." I know Jones wants to get rid of revenue sharing, but you're correct that TV money will not be allocated any way but evenly among 32 teams.

I believe you're confusing revenue sharing with the television revenue which is evenly split among all 32 teams. Revenue sharing money comes from the wealthiest 15 teams. And I don't believe it amounts to more than 10M per year. Owners like Jerra Jones are producing more funds for the league with their giant stadiums and don't feel obligated to owners like Wilson who exist in small markets and can never create the revenue big owners can.

There's a reason the Lions cut him. And the Bills rescued him from the trash heap of NFL street free agents. It's hard to find street free agents who pay attention for 4 quarters.

You have to wonder what Marv saw out of DJ in Chicago to warrant hiring him here besides the infamous "experience" qualification. A loudmouth DC in Blache (we had Schonert) and multiple OC's (Shoop and Crowton). I find it hilarious that he couldn't manage the clock, lost close games, and averaged 7-9 in five seasons. When it comes to the Bills making the right decision on coaches and GM's, they're 0 fer the decade.

No one does know what RW is thinking, and I'm not sure if RW does. He looked fine at the HOF enshrinement, but 90 year old men do not make long term plans. Ever since 2006, the Bills have not gone outside the organization for anything, aside from having to hire Bob Sanders for the DL. And that was something they didn't want to do. I just don't see RW giving a long term contract out at 91 for a coach. It's one thing to sign TO for 1 year at 6.5M-he's a players and as Sisyphean pointed out, they need to pay the cap floor.. But it's going to cost 5M+ for Shanahan, Cowher, Gruden, or Holmgren and they'll be getting long term deals. Besides, RW isn't about to cede personnel control to anyone but people he knows. Most of all, this team needs to be ready to be sold, and having a contract of 5M+ for a few years is another (albeit smaller) impediment. Belichick didn't go to Baltimore when the Browns moved.

And Russ likes the guys they've got. There's really nothing wrong. If both Russ and Dick are fine, we should be too by golly. They're the experts and we're just on a message board. Besides, they're saving boatloads of money.

Analyze what Huizenga did in the context of moving away from a bad regime (Cam Cameron HC, Randy Mueller GM) and look at is strictly as a business decision for future success. Huizenga decided to invest 27M into hiring Parcells, firing his whole staff, and then paying for the people Parcells advocated for. Miami, as I admitted, caught a lot of bounces. But paying 27M to turn around a franchise is what he felt necessary, and he's a wealthy man. RW won't even spend 8M to fire a horrible HC and then the requisite amount for new front office talent.

Wayne Huizenga, before selling the Dolphins to Stephen Ross, hired Bill Parcells to clean up the Dolphins at the end of a 1-15 season in 2007. Parcells advocated firing the entire coaching and front office staff. Everything. And then he hired an entire new staff. This reportedly cost 27M dollars. Forgive me for not having a link, but I recall starting a thread about the cost to win. And guess what happened? That team Parcells built went 11-5 in 08. Sure, Miami got a lot of bounces their way, but Huizenga sold the team and made a significant profit. The point is, it's a business, and Huizenga made a decision just prior to selling the team. RW plays marketing games, doesn't build a real football team, and depends on gimmicks (TO) to sell tickets. All the while, the team languishes in mediocrity, or perhaps worse this season. EDIT: Huizenga-Parcells

The greater issue, outside of pure business decisions, is that RW does not like paying people not to work. I'm sure you'll recall the Wade Phillips event, when Wilson claimed WP quit on and was not fired. The former would remove RW's obligation to pay WP. This is a stubborn man, Mr. Wilson. He's accustomed, over a lifetime of business and sports ventures, to getting his way. He's not fired a coach mid-season since the eigthties when HC's earned a fraction of what they used to.

Brandon was just speaking on behalf of Wlson. He tried to be tough, but in the scheme of things, no one among NFL types respects him. I've read that he was practically laughed at while attending the combine. It's an insult to Bills fans that he's been "promoted" to such an important NFL position. But oh yeah is he arrogant. If he we knew he could make big decisions and was good at them, I'd give him his due. Except he's nothing more than Mr. Smithers to Ralph's C. Montgomery Burns.

What's worse than not caring about the team is not caring to go watch them in person. I'm almost at the point and wouldn't be shocked if Cleveland pulled out a win. I've never understood the casual fans who go to games to party. While that's nice, I go to watch games but at this point maybe the tailgate will be the high point of the afternoon.

Is he pimping/bumping "Bills and Beers" again? Some fans are so delusional they can't make a point and he's a prime example. What's funny is fans who think they can adequately quantify the loss of the team's best offensive lineman. We can't even know how much better or worse the QB is, let alone the OL by removing Peters.