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BillsVet

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  1. Carr is more evidence that even if you're in "QB Purgatory" you can still acquire a good NFL QB. What's interesting is Reggie McKenzie, who's had his share of bad decisions, drafted a QB and then selected what many considered an elite receiver in Amari Cooper.
  2. The point is personnel managers allowed this franchise, who have been without a decent QB since about 1995, to be backed into a corner necessitating the drafting of a QB in 2013. No decent NFL owner pays millions to personnel people to operate out of desperation so often. It reminds me of having to take a RB early in 2007 and having to take 2 guards high in 2009, or needing an OT in 2012. If there's one common denominator over the 15+ years of failure, it's been either poor evaluation of QBs or an absolute refusal to select them. That's on a GM more than anyone else in an organization.
  3. Again, TPegs did not spend 1.4B and then hand out all those big contracts to have this bad a team. He may not know football but I'd wager that he's going to get eyes on his team in the wake of today's debacle. Who knows, perhaps it's already happened. The book on Whaley is he hasn't found a good QB or really drafted well offensively. At QB, he's signed guys off the street, drafted a guy, traded for guys and nothing worked. And before the predictable excuse makers show up en masse to ask who he should have picked, I would ask this question: Would a billionaire owner trust Doug Whaley who's tried and failed so often to find a good QB? I wouldn't.
  4. EJ was a swing for the fences after the previous GM absolutely refused to take a QB and insisted on going with a guy he inherited. Buffalo was backed into a corner and therefore were desperate because the only other QB on the roster was Kevin Kolb. In 2006 people on this board were heralding Marv's first draft class because so many rookies started. Except, they had to play when the other options weren't good. Rookies starting out of need isn't proof a GM knows what he's doing. Don't we have to give rookies 2-3 seasons anyway before evaluating them? Doug Whaley has alienated 2 coaching staffs. Do you want that guy picking players for you? Maybe just maybe he is a rogue who's doing things on his own. The evidence is building to support that.
  5. I really don't care what the predictable homers have to say in this thread. No one invests 1.4B into a NFL franchise and watches what happened today without thinking there'll be changes. The owner isn't an unbridled homer who merely can't criticize his team. Matt Cassel does not gift-wrap 21 points to possibly the worst defense in the NFL. Matt Cassel does not throw balls in the dirt to Robert Woods 7 yards downfield. Matt Cassel is not the guy a Jags defense knows and tells announcers cannot go through progressions. But Matt Cassel is not Doug Whaley's pick and therefore is expendable. This entire season was about winning now. All the spending, the Rex hire, everything. But then Doug Whaley traded someone for a future draft pick and it was about EJ's ceiling? No, this was about Doug Whaley trying to survive. If there's one positive coming out of this game, it'll be that Doug Whaley's handling of the QB position and subsequent doubling down on Manuel will indeed get him fired. Pegula hasn't hired nor extended him. We're going to look back on 2010-15 (the current rebuild) years and realize how utterly horrible Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley were.
  6. This coming from a guy who said he played "solid" last week. He's delusional because he's been told for so long (probably HS) that his sh** doesn't stink. Maybe when he's out of the NFL next season reality will hit him. Right now he's in fantasy world after that performance.
  7. If EJ played "solid" in his words last week, I wonder what today's performance merits.
  8. They're playing arguably the league's worst team. Defense should dominate.
  9. Glad Whaley is finally going in front of the assembled media. It's been awhile.
  10. No one alone can win a football game. But what's interesting about all of these players you mention is they either were acquired in free agency or they had to trade up in the draft. And it's why I continue to believe Whaley and his predecessor aren't/weren't adept at drafting offensive players. If they were, Buffalo wouldn't have had to go on the spending spree they did this past off-season. The best teams in the NFL are winning with predominantly home-grown rosters. New England, Green Bay, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh all draft well consistently. In Buffalo they're buying RBs, WRs, TEs (haven't drafted one in rounds 1-3 since Kevin Everett 10 years ago), and refuse to draft a QB unless their collective back is against the wall. Doug Whaley and Bumbling Buddy added a lot of defenders since they arrived in 2010. It's still not the way to build a team suited for winning in the modern NFL. Nor is buying your talent when the drafts don't yield talent, especially on offense.
  11. Star RBs aren't necessary though. The year Chris Johnson ran for 2k yards and 2500 total the Titans failed to make the playoffs. The year Adrian Peterson ran for 2k Minnesota was a 6 seed. No one in the NFL is emphasizing the running game to the point it demands "star level RBs."
  12. A 3 down LB who has some coverage skills is more valuable than a RB...even if they're earning the same pay. There's a lot more involved in a comparison, but positional value being what it is, there are plenty of above average replacement level RBs. There just aren't as many 3 down LBs.
  13. The man, in all likelihood, would have been there later. For so many years it was the Bills standing pat and letting the draft come to them. And those picks were usually made rapidly when it came their turn. Those were some dark days. Good read though.
  14. They sure play like it regardless of talent. Losing to the top teams and winning versus the lesser talents. Playing down to the competition and unable to win consecutive games. I'll give it more time though.
  15. Back in '08 Buffalo started off 5-1 only to finish 7-9. At one point, the team was 6-5 and people were still saying the Bills were in good shape. Unfortunately, Buffalo was trending down, but some wanted to rationalize that being 6-5 was good enough. A cloudy playoff picture though left them on the outside looking in for the post-season. The point is, has the current team fought their way to 3-3 or just fallen backward into it? Are they trending up or down? I'd say they're back to the Bills of the Jauron years, albeit with more talent. They've defeated the bad to mediocre teams and lost to the good ones. After the Thursday Night 11/12 game at the Jets I would hope they're 6-3 and playing lights out. Anything less and the playoffs are still a huge question.
  16. WGR, particularly the morning show, broadcasts to the lowest common denominator. You're not going to hear much on game strategy or whether a certain player fits the scheme. They read this board and know what some (low information) fans continue to cite why Buffalo lost: missed calls, penalties against the Bills, etc. They're not going to talk about EJ throwing for 3 yards on 3rd and 13. Or that the defense was poor. They'll cite how good the other team was (see NE and CIN) and how you can't win them all or that other teams have really good QBs and Buffalo won't be playing as many the rest of the way. It's relativism driven by the audience.
  17. Let's discount all news reporters now because we don't know who their sources are. Goodness. I get that some Bills fans will never admit management is flawed and in the face of all objective evidence, will defend their team to the hilt regardless of results. But to universally say reporters "don't know" is why it's getting hard to debate people here. Actually, there's little debate, particularly when it involves critical thinking based on evidence. The burden of proof is on those advocating for the team. That perspective has, especially since I've been on this board, been wrong most every time.
  18. This sums up Whaley in a sentence. I don't understand the plan and it changes every year seemingly, although admittedly a new HC hires mean the plan may change. Yet, this shouldn't result in sweeping changes like what we've seen since RW passed in March 2014. Since that day it's been a scramble at OBD, which was somewhat predictable given the uncertain ownership picture. There are 31 QB's starting in the NFL who were drafted, Tony Romo being the exception. The average draft postion is 42 for those. 13 of those 31 were taken in picks 1-5. From picks 6-10 there is 1 (Tannehill), 11-20 there are 3 (Roethlisberger, Flacco, Cutler), 21-32 there are 3 (Brees, Rodgers, Bridgewater). Three (Dalton, Kaepernick, Derek Carr) from 33-64. 5 (Cousins, Mallett, Foles, Wilson, Jo. McCown) from 65-102. And there are 3 (Brady, Tyrod, and Fitz) taken beyond pick 102. The idea QBs are only taken at the tip top of the first round is a myth perpetrated by those who say it's too hard. It's not, and while not all of those QB's starting today are stellar, there is enough of a sample size to say it's not impossible to get a good one in the early middle to second round.
  19. I would never think this team would be so thankful to get a 5th round rookie RB back into the lineup. Especially with the skill position talent they had entering the season.
  20. And EJ had the temerity to say after the game that he played "solid." This, after throwing for 111 yards in the fourth quarter when the game was over.
  21. Does Whaley know who he's shopping for or are these groceries for himself?
  22. The Bills are like the bully from A Christmas Story who gets beat up himself. And Rex is like the kid weakly telling Ralphie to stop. Buddy and Doug just love fast injury prone skill position types from Clemson.
  23. I'm not going to totally disagree with this post, although with Whaley, I don't see what he's trying to do aside from avoid the media. He's more adept at drafting defensive players because on offense he's been poor. There isn't much skill giving up draft picks to move from 9 to 4 to take the best WR. Aside from Robert Woods, what decent offensive starters has he selected from 2013-15? Most of the offensive group was acquired via free agency or trade. Where I disagree is how Whaley could do a good job and have the roster foundation outdated. His predecessor had no plan aside from get a better player here, get a faster or stronger guy there. So I guess Whaley is better there. Still, he doubled down on Manuel and that decision is significantly damaging his career. Because after yesterday, we're another step closer to declaring Manuel a bust. And the Bills are trying to cover up the one position that cannot be.
  24. Whaley is in a tough spot because he didn't hire the 2 HC's during his tenure and whatever players he's acquired aren't necessarily going to play under the latest coaching staff. The owner is not doing them any favors either considering that Whaley does not have the job security Rex enjoys. The idea it's as simple as Whaley having control over the 53 and Rex playing whom he wants on game-day is wrought with major issues. This was evidenced by the handling of the QB situation. Whaley was high on Manuel whereas it appears Rex and the staff were not. And so Whaley traded the guy in the way of Manuel playing. But the strategy building this roster has been something based on the 1970s because teams don't win with great defense and a strong run game. For those who think Seattle does this, well, they have Russell Wilson which allows them to throw when they have to. Buffalo doesn't have that capability and therefore gets into trouble when that situation presents itself.
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