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It's how you remain in "quarterback purgatory" which the GM described during 2015 training camp.

And the current GM 3 years ago traded up to draft a WR in hopes his first round QB pick from the previous year would improve.

Been here 10 years. I'm very well aware.

There is a real inferiority complex going on here if we derive relevancy from our coordinator hires.

What better way to start a rebuild than by having someone in the thick of the last one "leading" the way? The GM has his finger up in the air to gauge the wind and it's blowing toward rebuild. Not surprisingly he's modified his message. Whaley's learned so much from Brandon over the years.

What is Jeff George doing these days?

Do you honestly expect the current GM to find a "QB prospect" after how he's approached the position since 2013? Yeah, anyone can say get the QB and things fall into place because it's the easiest argument to make. Yet, is Olsen the guy you want developing a young QB? To me he seems to wear out his welcome relatively quick. Buffalo is his 6th team (counting JAC twice for both stops) in 10 years. That the guy McDermott thinks is somehow suitable?

That defense of Dick Jauron back in the day was classic TBC. Then the inevitable pivot occurred and it was on to defending Gailey and crew.

At this point I wonder if Steve Fairchild or Turk Schonert could be lured back to Buffalo. They do have experience working here already, which is a big plus. Greg Olson isn't the only retread out there looking for a NFL job.

They've retained Whaley, so this makes sense.

Threads like this make me better understand why people need "safe spaces" free of criticism/dissenting opinions and basically anything that could hurt a non-objective fan's feelings.

Some "fans" have an awful lot of time to post articles, interview links, etc. Really amazing these "fans."

The dead money on Dareus' contract means in theory their highest paid player ain't going anywhere. I suspect McDermott and Frazier will try to get him to buy into their scheme. Still would have been nice if Whaley and Overdorf had put a clause in their about the guaranteed money, but this is Whaley we're talking about.

T Pegs talks about what's in the past is in the past. And yet, during their brief ownership they've retained the same individuals in the front office responsible for that past, the team keeps losing and no one's supposed to question the franchise's direction.

As has been repeated ad nauseam on TBD...win and this stuff goes away. McDermott may well be a solid HC, but the fact Whaley is still there leading personnel remains a major problem. Lil' Doug (thanks Rico) won the battle over Rex. But it would be hilarious if, perhaps as a condition for working in Buffalo, McDermott demanded more control over personnel and got it from the Pegullibles. That makes sense considering the GM hasn't exactly built a tremendous roster (and that includes failing to find a QB). Hopefully Whaley's lost power in this hire and the Bills can begin building a roster better than Lil' Doug's glorified fantasy football team roster: lot of names and salaries, not much results.

Internal promotions tend to happen when GM's jobs are on the line. Not always, but frequently: McAdoo with Jerry Reese. Marrone with Caldwell. Koetter with Licht.

Whaley went along with almost whatever RR wanted in terms of personnel during 2015 UFA spending spree and defense heavy 2016 draft When the 2016 season tanked, it was RR who was apparently the only offending party. RR was at fault, but not totally. This is a cautionary tale to working with Whaley: he'll play good and acquire the pieces you want at first. If it doesn't work, it's the HC's fault and OBD will start the blame game through the media. If Whaley was half as concerned with building a roster as he is running down others to save his neck this team might make the playoffs.

Doug Whaley isn't no Tim Murray. And Murray himself, much as I like his blunt talk, hasn't produced much yet. Is this what it's come to? Parsing what John Murphy says on state controlled radio?

They were solid pickups at a reduced rate. At the same time, Alexander is entering his 12th season and not someone to build around and Brown is probably going to win big in UFA. The roster on the whole isn't "close" as the GM would have some believe.

Yes. Because the NFL of 2004-05 was suited exactly to the passing game like it has been in 2015-16.

Typical. Point at franchises supposedly worse than Buffalo. Except Cleveland has started their rebuild and acquired more picks. Jed York, I believe, has acknowledged he needs a complete tear down and that process has started. Buffalo? Hanging onto the same GM who never found a QB and who apparently will strike gold finding a HC and QB in the same off-season. Doubtful. When do they get the right executive? Do you honestly think Doug Whaley will not only find a HC, a starting QB, and build the team in 1 off-season when he hasn't done it over the course of the last 3? What has Doug Whaley done to prove he knows what he's doing? Rex Ryan had more of a blueprint for building this team than Whaley put together.

The more they try to avoid a rebuild the greater the likelihood one is in their future. At the same time, the current GM knows his back is against the wall and can't sustain a 3 or 4 win season, so he does what's best for his career and charts a course which inhibits the franchise. I cannot believe how similar the Pegullible led Sabres in 2011-14 were to the Bills of 2014-17. They tried to avoid a rebuild with the Sabres and it didn't work. Now they're doing the same with the Bills and will be in the same place after their first few seasons of ownership. I think we're onto something here dm! Outstanding work.

I think we're going to be looking for another analogy in short order. I'm trying to think of one that isn't too damaging to the environment but it's exceptionally difficult. We've got plenty of time this off-season.

Jed York just did that and he's now at the point where everything needs to be blown up in SF. T/K Pegs don't know it yet, but they'll need to do what Jed's doing this year: gut the entire front office. But you knew that already.

Are any coaches open to the Bills with only a project in Cardale Jones on the roster? Doubtful. If I'm a career minded NFL coach, I stay away from the Bills based on the QB situation alone. That the GM undermined the HC through the media the last month of the season only makes it easier to say no to this franchise. Never mind, the team is alienating their starting QB and could be in a legal battle with said QB. The dumpster fire has become a complete tire fire.