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Zone CBs are never going to command the price that someone who is man to man will. And even if Davis is slowing down to the point of being more of a press guy, he's not going to want to take the pay cut. He'll test the market and try to get someone to pay him. I don't see Buffalo spending 9M per on a UFA CB largely because they've got so many needs elsewhere. I can see them looking for someone much lower priced and using their cap room to improve the front 7. Gaines isn't coming back, given the price he's looking for and it wouldn't surprise me if there's been no discussion between his agent and OBD.

I cannot see Davis signing before UFA opens up. He may take some visits, but he'll want to see what he can get when UFA opens up.

I'll grant that Mayock wasn't as high a pick as Brooks and the latter not having a great career was worse than the former. At the same time, what difference does it make if you're comparing their careers? Neither lasted very long, but both are in the NFL Draft Analyst business and doing well by all accounts. There are others like Daniel Jeremiah who are pretty adept in the NFL Draft community who never even played a NFL down. Their pro career doesn't portend what their draft analysis ability will be.

Trying to scheme for an athlete QB is extremely difficult. Darrell Bevell did it for a few years with Russell Wilson and was canned this off-season. Jackson, by all accounts, can make the throws and has excellent scrambling ability yet isn't extremely accurate. His skill set has been proven not to translate to a repeatable offensive strategy in the NFL. I want a pocket QB who can feel the rush and throw receivers open, among other things. I don't see Jackson ever being that guy.

Mike Mayock was a NFL bust. I’ll take his word on the draft before I would say, Marshall Faulk’s. And there are plenty of Draftniks who know their stuff and didn’t play. Joel Buchsbaum comes to mind.

Hernando Cortes has been dead for 470 years. I'd like to think that situation (and the aftermath) is a little different than a NFL franchise being aggressive to find a QB. That said, you always have a backup plan when you're building a football team, especially at the QB position. Doug Whaley didn't in '13 (save for the never durable Kevin Kolb) and it resulted in Buffalo starting types like Thad Lewis and Jeff Tuel in winnable games. In '14, they had someone, who retired after the season. The backup in '15 with Rex was traded when Dougie's boy EJM was in street clothes to begin the season. This ain't conquistadors in Mexico in the 16th century.

Why do so many posters replicate clickbait with their thread titles? Is there a competition to see who can get the most hits?

Having watched someone self-destruct who I suspect has it, yes, it's very scary and self-medicating with alcohol and street drugs is very common. I hope the dude gets back on track. My hope is people like Manziel speaking out will end the stigma behind talking about mental health and spur people to get help.

Finding a QB is much harder than drafting a second tier WR, a WLB, or even an OT. To make this comparison is asinine. It's like all those years Bills fans heralded drafting guards, safeties, and linebackers. Those positions aren't impacting games the way a QB or pass rusher will. No one knows what's going to happen leading up to draft day. But the OP is correct in assessing these picks as not being prime. The issue remains the same: McBeane need to hit a HR with this draft. They have far too many needs, namely QB, to find players who'll start quickly.

Always loved that he went back to Army as their coach for his last coaching job.

Last year is over. If you want to continue citing last year's result with last year's roster go ahead. There are no guarantees that a team improves from one year to the next. Buffalo, as the OP has noted, has a lot of roster questions and decisions to make. That doesn't lend itself to improvement, nor does it make that impossible. 2018 is Year 2 of the McBeane rebuild and now they need to find a QB. There's nothing wrong with questioning the team when that one position is such a huge unknown. Free Agency is going to tell us so much about how McBeane are going to try making this a perennial playoff team.

More threads are being opened by "enlightened" fans who somehow think what happened most recently is the new trend. I'm just going to chalk it up to the millennial perspective. Everything is now and that's all that matters.

This is going to be a long off-season. I'm just waiting for someone to mention Kevin Kolb.

Who wouldn't follow Captain Andrew Luck's Twitter feed? Those tweets are awesome...even if his rank here is Major General.

Brees had a torn labrum. That's what it sounds like Luck has from the reports I've seen. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/08/16/andrew-lucks-secret-pain-timeline-injury-colts-hid-more-than-year/523709001/ If this is true, I can't imagine Luck is enamored with the Colts organization, particularly the medical staff. That, and Indy has never built a decent OL which has allowed him to be among the league's most hit QB's. Throw in that they've failed to find solid skill players and it wouldn't surprise me that he's interested in moving on. The prospect of McDaniels dealing incumbent QBs also isn't lost here. I could see him wanting someone who will be young and impressionable.

He strikes me as an all around good dude. It's never been as apparent to me the last 2 years how much exercise helps the mind. It can help with so much more than your cardiovascular and muscular systems.

I've learned that it's not even February and some are already overanalyzing the heck out of this off-season.

Releasing Incognito is merely cutting off their nose to spite their face. There are others who can be released that would not hurt their 2018 season as much. If they don't win next season be prepared for people to talk about 2017 being a fluke, especially the way they got it. If they won less than 9 games next season and miss the playoffs, I doubt many people will care about McBeane's job status. These two know the bar has been set and this off-season needs to be a home run to build on 2017. Plenty of teams can backdoor their way into the playoffs. Real teams improve year over year. McBeane don't want to be the former.

McDaniels and Patricia took these jobs because there are established QBs on the roster. With HCs getting sometimes 2 years to show wins, you're not going to a team without one unless you've got a really high draft pick or unprecedented control. I always figured McD took the Bills job because he's been given latitude to do what he and now Beane need. There's no guarantee of success but having the top QB goes a long way. I'm sure McDaniels, for all his imperiousness, learned some lessons from his failed Denver tenure. Patricia is more unknown, but their Belichick disciples and I'm sure were able to discern what they needed.

McD needs pressure from the front 4. Lawson has an extremely slow get off and isn't going to provide what the HC needs. I can see why they'd be look to move in.

Two homers on the same show? It could happen, but it'd be awful listening.

He, like a lot of broadcasters and sports journalists started becoming political in recent years. And no matter where one stands on issues, it's unnecessary to inject politics into sports. I think most of us watch the games as a diversion from everyday life. Still not sure why someone like Costas thinks he can tell us how to think about certain issues. For some it seems like they're trying to hurt the sport or sports that has made them. The NFL seems to be some sports media types' target.

I see a lot of these early mock drafts having Buffalo take 2 defenders at 21 and 22. Perhaps that thought process is a result of the HC's background AND their need on that side of the ball. It's very early, but doing this would hurt more than it would help. Early returns shows there's defensive talent this draft, but a strategy that goes defense first to me is a losing one. The defense has clear needs, but with the way the game is going, hoping to be a strong defensive team with a pedestrian offense is only going to get you so far. And next year I would expect other franchises (OAK, IND, HOU, TEN) to rebound with better QB play making it a little harder to sneak into the playoffs. Of course they need a QB, but the skill positions aren't strong or are aging and, aside from Dawkins the OL is either aging or not good. More high picks on defense is (EDIT: not) the value right now to get this team deep into the playoffs.

Funny to see people observe that one weekend's worth of playoff games somehow eliminates what we've known for several seasons. That is, having a top QB is imperative to perennial success in this league and barring that, strong skill players and a very good or better defense is necessary. Minnesota, Jacksonville, and Philadelphia boast the latter. New England the former. It doesn't remove the fact Buffalo needs upgrades at their skill positions and the front 7 on defense.

I always thought Gailey figured he could win with Fitzpatrick and so he and Nix never took a QB in the 3 seasons they were paired. Fitz had limitations (including having almost no weapons) but I never understood this mentality. I would hope McBeane get the QB and they work from there. An OC will have some say in that, but not so much to sway the GM and HC from their decision.