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More like if someone applied to your company but said they would publicly protest during business hours about something political.

Truth is an endangered species in NFL circles this time of year. Polls mean almost nothing and their value is to the producer who can hype it to create a story where none exists. I put zero stock into what NFLN says about this. Only 13 more days...

McBeane are thinking longer term than 2018 when, on paper, this team will have at least 2 new OL starters. No decent GM or HC is thinking only 1 year into the future. At least not those who want to have a job further down the road. Besides, no one drafts a QB because they are concerned about the OL. They improve the OL and simultaneously get the QB.

Time to take the day off from posting - again. Or, keep trolling on dude.

Another day. Another thread about why getting a QB is too expensive and we need (insert position here). Some things never change. This draft can't come soon enough.

Buffalo was 4-12 in '86 and 8-7 in '87. Kelly's acquisition was so much different than drafting a QB. He already had 36 USFL games under his belt and was very good to start.

Montana was drafted in 1979. Brady in 2000. While we're at it, how about Johnny U in the 9th round of the 1957 draft. Or Bart Starr in the 17th round in '56? The past does not predict the future and those who abhor risks to gain security will themselves realize failure. You and I haven't agreed much over the years, but this post is indeed spot-on. There needs to be a change in strategy and I sense that has occurred at OBD. No team without a top QB has truly rebuilt. And the likeliest place to find them is at the top of the first round. It remains a nuanced discussion (which isn't suited to a message board) but the idea you can settle for a 2nd/3rd rounder to focus on positions of less value is asinine. (EDIT) Or, hope someone falls into picks 6 and later. It's time to be aggressive and stop being passive about finding your QB of the future. The fact remains that being afraid of taking a QB is what has led Buffalo, as bandit said above, into mediocrity. They chose one dude, hoped he would work out, saw him fail, and had nothing behind that guy. It is a strategy for losing. And frankly, I don't care what "walter football" has to say. Their site carries too much advertisements and is in no way quality. I'll take ourlads anyday and I recommend their draft guides.

I'm going to ask one more time: how old were you when Lonnie Johnson was drafted? If your opinion on these draft picks is based on personal observation and stats, well, people can disagree. If your perspective is based on a pro football reference search, then your "evaluation" isn't all that in-depth.

You won't answer because it doesn't support your "evaluation." What, 10? 5? Your thread is one of many that will be forgotten. Drop the ego dude. There are many other posters who are more knowledgeable than you and your analysis isn't sound.

How old were you in 1994 when Johnson was drafted?

Not the same scenario. Wood was a Bill for 9 seasons and had no real reputation issues. Incognito has been maligned for years, came here (for a second tenure) and had been on the roster 3 seasons. People hate this because 1) he's Richie Incognito and 2) it means their team is left in the lurch. Why this becomes personal is beyond me. I wish he would have retired much sooner and given them time to plan, but life happens. Players have the right to retire when they want. And this isn't the same scenario as Eric Wood.

McCoy isn't worth anything in the draft save for a late round pick. 30 yo RBs on a big contract aren't worth squat to other NFL teams. AFA Incognito is concerned, why do people take it personally when their favorite team has a player retire? They don't owe the fans their bodies on the field of play. Dude's played 10+ NFL seasons and people make it sound like he still owes the fans and team something.

By reversing this logic, all RBs coming out of USC will be great. You've got OJ, Marcus Allen, Frank Gifford, et al. Ergo, it's appropriate to select Ronald Jones with Buffalo's highest pick. Sometimes this board resembles (in digital form) the scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail where they are debating whether someone is a witch.

One of the most talked about threads? Sure whatever. You've ranked Russ Brandon, Marv Levy, and Buddy Nix ahead of Bill Polian? Sorry dude, not buying it.

QBorBust2018...obviously a bust.

Letting the draft come to a team...the Buddy Nix draft day strategy. This has been the longest off-season and there's still 2 weeks left.

Evaluating human beings of any kind is extremely difficult. I've seen good managers hire bad employees who had great resumes. NFL front offices are getting smarter drafting but it's still tough to predict who'll cut it, particularly at QB. I don't see teams as eager like they were in 2011 to take QBs. When Ponder went 12th to Minnesota that was the low water mark.

The number of posters who start inane threads based on random thoughts in their heads is suffocating.

The timing of this...it's amazing someone dropped this now. I'm shocked...shocked. Someone wants Mayfield and is muddying the waters to do so. Or they're running him down to hurt him personally. People fall for anything these days. The final two weeks leading up to the draft will be a lot of subterfuge and all so teams can get their guy. The writers/sports personalities who run this stuff know they're being led on and used. The kid did something wrong, but to character assassinate him before the draft is reprehensible.

Especially considering the HC is a defense guy and the front 7 is aging and not really talented. Why Rudolph? Because he's available this year? Teams are drafting smarter and that might mean holding off on QB's in the first round when they've got obvious flaws. I can see him slipping into the 2nd.

Billfrom NYC's head will explode. A first round DB with the first name Donte? Oh yeah, one of the best poster's here will not handle that well.

Vote of confidence at times is really just a pending separation. Reminds me of the Titans owner talking about Mularkey and he was fired days later after losing in the divisional round. Normal NFL franchises with new GMs and HCs typically get their guy at QB unless they inherit a really good one. The primary thing which would preclude Gettleman from taking a QB is whether he wants to compete this season. He's a 67 year old GM in his first year at the helm with NYG, so I'm thinking he wants to compete out of the box. Having a QB battle in camp between the 2nd overall pick and Manning (provided he's not dealt) would be difficult for a new HC and GM. And I don't see Manning being dealt on draft day.

11 years on TBD and I've never been called a Nazi. Nice job Hondo. I don't have the power to "censor" you and no one's doing that. You've made your point. So, now it's time to move on and stop arguing with anyone who disagrees with you. Have some respect.

You've started 5 threads in the past 2+ days on what you want to do at QB. Give it a rest. Deal with the fact you're not going to convince people that sitting tight at 12 or waiting until next year is the way to go.