BobChalmers

Back in the day, as with Moulds, it was typical for ALL WRs to take ~3 years to figure it out in the NFL. I suppose college offenses have changed in a way that makes them more ready, but they really can get better with some experience too.

In fairness to Foster, he was an UDFA with very limited targets at Alabama - he could get a lot better now that he'll be a full-time pro. His problems are mostly fixable with work. Look how much better he got just taking a few weeks to improve between his two stints on the Bills roster.

"sure" is a strong word, but ALL the draft reports show a pretty weak top end for WRs.

If we believe the article it's not "pure speculation". He's quoting a source with some knowledge of the specifics.

At this stage of his career I'm not sure - and on a per dollar basis even less so?

I suspect this will end Anderson's run here - you don't need two of these guys.

It would take a bit of luck, but hey, Edmunds was supposed to go around 5-8 this year!

Add to that list 4) It was McDermott with the well-documented relationship with Andy Reid - not Whaley. That trade arose at least in part from their relationship.

So now Dawkins is struggling too. Last season it was Wood and Miller who deteriorated. COME ON OBD - FIRE THIS POS CASTILLO BEFORE THERE'S NOTHING LEFT

FIRE JUAN CASTIILLO PLEASE

OK - proof that this thread was intended as a joke by someone who just tossed up a new (second) account.

I've got no problem with Croom and Thomas as talented projects and backups. Thomas is useful as an emergency /trick play QB too. I do have a problem with them being the starters at this point in their careers. Clay is obviously not very good and catching passes - this is hardly the first time he failed to complete a make-able play - he did it to TT a lot too.

So do I start Josh Allen over Phillip Rivers @ Pittsburgh and Baker Mayfield @ Houston? I'm actually a bit serious - Rivers and Mayfield both have MUCH tougher match ups.

It's amazing how elevating from Tyrod "throw at your feet" Taylor to Allen has helped Zay stop looking like a bust everyone was screaming about here just a few months ago.

They called him "baby" Big Ben, the word "mini" appears no where in the article - why the thread title?? "Mini" makes no sense - Josh is bigger than Ben - "baby" does make sense.

What is it with all the Troll posters on this board? I really don't remember there being quite so much mindless negativity here in years past.

Darius? Unlike the cruel Marone, who demanded that you stand. I require only that you kneel.

At some point in the second half I was worrying the Jags would get going, then I watch the replay of his pass and it's as bad a wounded duck ? as I've ever seen in the NFL or NCAA. I was immediately less concerned about them winning.

This is true, but I was on for Mayfield anyway - I just saw him look too amazing in too many games in college. Crazy accuracy. His size IS an issue, and I didn't think any of the QBs was an across the board lock, but Mayfield was certainly the most impressive on the field and my #1, followed by Allen and Rosen. Darnold never did it for me - too many dumb turnovers and unimpressive throws in big games. Newton also played on a great team in college. I can't speak for everyone, but I am comfortable saying he's not nearly as good as HE thinks he is.

JAX coaches are idiots - why do they keep passing?

How in hell are these announcers making excuses for him? Allen made a great deep pass perfectly catchable in both hands.

Seriously - how many drops and passes taken away by idiot penalties by this garbage OL? Jerry has always been, and remains a troll.

I am still waiting for his first one this year - cut his butt. What the heck is wrong with Croom to put him on a list between those two slices of s**T? Right - you don't just bench him to send a message - you bench him to improve the play of the team. How is this even still a question? He's been absolute garbage ALL SEASON.

No, you're problem is a you're a troll. How anyone complains at this stage about a rookie 7th overall pick who's 2-3 on a team that's 1-4 without him really can only have one explanation. HINT: It doesn't involve a surplus of objectivity or intellect.

YES - this "TT can mask a bad OL" trope is flat-out wrong. Sure he can run fast - so can Allen. TT had terrible pocket awareness, poor vision in the pocket, and absolutely glacial decision making. He made the OL look WORSE in pass coverage, not better.