Dr. K

Whaley intended Jonathan Williams to take his place. Instead we get tub of goo Tolbert.

I think we know your opinion on this matter, since it's all you post, all the time. Take a break and give us all a vacation.

I despair whenever they run a play for him. Second and 25, and they give the ball to him? Beyond idiocy.

About as much fun as visiting the dentist. And I watch them anyway. My syndrome exactly.

Whaley thought Jonathan Williams would be the backup rb, not freakin' Mike Tolbert. I put the blame for the lousy backup running squarely on McDermott & Beane. If Tolbert had not gotten hurt Cadet would probably never have seen the field.

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If you think the Bills will win this one, you are in for a big disappointment.

It took Eric Moulds three years before he began to show what a great receiver he could be. Jones is going to be all right.

This would certainly go a long way toward shutting me up, too.

0-3 I am afraid.

My feelings exactly.

I think the biggest factor is being in the same division as the Patriots. That means the Bills essentially start the season 0-2 and are always digging themselves out of a hole. This doesn't excuse them for seldom being able to beat the Patriots, but nobody in these 17 years beats the Patriots regularly. Lots of teams in other divisions have gotten into the playoffs who would not have had they been in the AFC East. No excuses—the team needs to be better. But the Bills (and Jets and Dolphins) have less margin for error than other teams. Just an observation.

This is my take, too . He will get another chance, sooner or later, with another team. THIS, too.

Bills vs. Houston Oilers, 1966. Bills won on last minute 67-yard pick six (on Houston QB George Blanda) by cornerback Haygood Clarke. You could look it up.

Peterman. But I think the Bills will start Taylor.

That one playcall was enough to say bye bye to Dennison.

He calls an empty backfield play for the Bills when they are on the Pats two yard line, 4th and goal? That was idiotic.

This is my view, too. The true test of Whaley as a GM would have come if he had been able to choose his own coach.

Yes

There have been many many worse losses by the Bills than the Peterman debut. How about the 6-3 loss to Cleveland in the snow? The 30-13 loss to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl after leading 13-6 at the half. The previous year's 52-17 loss to the Cowboys in the Bowl. The Loss to the Cowboys on Monday Night football. The collapse against the Patriots where we were ahead 21-0 and lost 49-21. The other loss to the pats when were were up by 11 with four minutes to go. In person I saw them lose to the Colts in 1971 43-0. Then a few weeks later they lost to the Colts again, 24-0 (the team was 1-13 that year). The Saints loss this season was more disgusting than the Chargers loss. You are very young, grasshopper.

Thank god somebody understands what Whaley was doing. Overall, he was an excellent talent evaluator, and got the players to fit the schemes the coaches insisted on running. The reflexive Whaley hate here is moronic.

This is the way I feel about Tyrod. He has skills, but he is immensely frustrating to watch. the team may not win as much at first without him, but I am convinced they will not make it near a championship game with him at QB.

Four first downs in the second half. Many opportunities to put them away and they cannot move the ball. Dennison's play calling was terrible, and Tyrod is the definition of a limited QB. But they won.

I see the "rebuilding for the future" but I object to the "wisely." I call them hubristic not because of the Peterman/Tyrod melodrama, but because they have drained this roster of young talent in order to get "their guys" and insist on an offensive scheme ill suited to the players on the team.

I completely agree and felt so at the time. The mess the Bills are in at this time is the direct result of that terrible decision.