okay, that makes sense. when rebutting ...lybob I should have used the word 'authority' instead of 'control'. still, is it an accurate characterization to say (as he did) that 'there has been a war going on between the WH and factions in the Military, Intelligency agencies, and State dept about where foreign policy is set'? I pay rather close attention, or at least I consider myself as doing so, and aside from some minor differences in their approach to foreign policy, most entities under the authority of the president seem to me to be in relative harmony. on the surface, there doesn't seem to me to be much contention between them.