DanInUticaTampa

I will be disappointed very much if we don't use the 1st overall pick on a QB. This is going to be the best time we are set up to take the best QB on the board, unless Cleveland or San Fran somehow win less than us.

If you are suggesting we take him with the first pick, that is crazy. Much better players to take with such a high pick. Is this guy even a first round prospect at this point? I only know of him from todays game.

hard to tell this year, but the jests got far into the playoffs last year with average QBing. Right now, I think the playoff race is wide open. Too many teams are struggleing.

Well, we need both of those, and then some.

I doubt there will be a rookie salary cap this next draft. Probably the 2012 one will have it. The OP even stated that wilson wouldn't pay a 50 million+ contract.... that is what the top pick gets without the rookie cap... so it is obvious what the OP means.

What exactly do you mean by sustaining drives? Do you mean TOP? Because despite a defense that can't get off the field, the offense has only a 2 minute difference from last year at TOP.... and that was with a defense that was a turnover machine. The offense sustains and finishes more drives this season than last year, or at the very least, breaks even. It isn't the offense's fault that the defense is stuck on the field. The TOP was basically the same last year and last year's defense didn't look anywhere near as bad.

He means he enjoyed seeing the pats* lose, as did everyone in buffalo.... and basically everyone outside Mass.

Once chan signed the contract, he receieved the buffalo curse.... and made him do everything the opposite way.

Alright, here are some stats for ya. Sorry, it isn't the yards that you enjoy so much: Now, what does this prove? It proves that all those people bitched about settleing a for a field goal last year should be happier, because now we are scoring less field goals and more TDs.... does that mean, this offense finally knows how to finish now More TDs = improved offense. But that is just me I guess. More points i guess means, same offense to you. But whatevs. that is like, a 100% improvement in 1 year! but.... to you, 100% better isn't really.... better, I guess. Whatevs. And as far as buffalo not being able to beat clevaland.... That right there should show that the bills CAN beat them. You don't need more yards than clevland. You need more points. Right now, we score more points than them per a game. Wait a minute... we throw LESS interceptions this year.... and that is not improvement? I guess our team can just go ahead and throw interceptions, becuase throwing more won't be a step backwards since throwing less isn't improvement by your standards. And was is crazy about the interception thing is.... we throw a lot more per a game than we did last year... yet we still have less interceptions? This offense still sucks, but if you can't see the improvement in the stats, then you are just stuck on the yards.... and yards are not the end all and be all of an offense. This offense might suck, but it is improved from last year. If you can't see it, then oh well. now the defense.... now there is something to really B word about.

I already did. They have scored more points this season than last. If yards are more important than points to you, then I don't think you understand the game. Not to mention our red zone upoffense is pretty damn awseome right now. I believe our redzone offense is good for a top ten in the league last time I checked. I think our redzone percentage is like ....66%? and our red zone offense last year was like 30%. But yeah, you don't care about points and stuff. Just the yards . And wins is a terrible way to measure the offense. An offense can score a million points, it doesn't matter if a defense lets the other team score a million and 1. You want to see if the offense has improved? Look at stats other than yards or wins. How about you look at things like points, big plays, turnovers, red zone, etc. And this isn't the first time I brought it up to you, yet you keep asking "show me improvement." It is right in front of you dog. Red zone improvement is huge. If you don't think so, then I guess the redzone just isn't an important part of the game to you, for whatever reason. But quite honestly, a lot of people thought the red zone killed us last year. Killed us so bad that the offense would look ok until it got into the redzone and couldn't score.

So then I don't know what your point was to compare the browns in the context of this thread. Or how stats on yards shows whether or not we can beat the browns. Last year we scored what? 3 points against them? I bet this year, we score at least 10 points on them, win or lose. Offense improved right there.

There is no way to sugarcoat it. But trying to argue that the browns being slightly better in the first 5 games can't prove whether or not the offense is improving or has improved. You could compare the offense to the raiders, colts, etc. The only team you can compare it to in order to see if it has improved is the bills themselves. You can either compare the bills week by week to see if they improved, you can compare them to last years team, but if you compare the bills and browns together, you aren't going to be able to tell if the bills are improving or not. If you think your question can be answered by comparing the bills/browns, then you are crazy. The browns have nothing to do with the bills so far this season and have face completly different oppenents and have had completly different issues. the only thing that post of yours proves is that both the bills and browns both suck.... if it took stats for you to figure that one out, then lucky you, you probably didn't watch either team play this year. The offense? It isn't getting better results. But it is obviously a new system with certain areas improving. More shots down the field, roscoe parrish being an impact player, getting TDs instead of settleing for field goals all the time, less turnovers, etc. It might not be a good offense, in fact, it is terrible, but it has more potential than other offenses we have had. This offense could develop into something that is productive after the players get used to it. But, that is just potential and it might never bring the results it should. But at least it has potential, which is better than being stuck with the same crappy offense for four years under jauron. by year 2, it was obvious that it wasn't going to work.

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/121569-jim-kelly/

The bills and browns played VERY different teams this year.... that is not a good comparison.

omg, no OT until the 4th???? HANG HIM! But I do like all the players suggested.

A lot of interesting stuff there. That is great if he is able to keep the bills in Western NY. The clock is surly ticking on what is going to happen with this. It could be any day now, or 3-4 years from now.

In reality, Kyle williams was in the probowl last year.

I agree with pretty much everything here. The defense just can't make a stop. We have a great secondary, but without a pass rush it is useless. And as for stopping the run, forget about it. We are a little bit better against the run when Davis is in there, but overall, that defense is just a mess and from the looks of it, completly unorganized. I didn't have a big issue with edwards (with him getting offered DC job in florida showed he had some decent ability) but I put a lot of this on him, and not just the talent. It looks very unorganized. But as far as the offense goes, I agree with the posters that say we need to run the ball more. I know it is a passing league, but us failing to run the ball just shows we don't control the LOS. It is very interesting to me, because gailey is basically known for running the ball and throwing rarely.... so this looks very different than what I was expecting.

This offense has scored more points in the first 5 games this season than they did the first five games they did last season.... and last season for those 5 games, some included the bucs and browns.... the offense is improved as far as points go. We seem to be much better in the redzone now. The offense still sucks, and needs a lot of work if it is going to ever compete in the division though. The sad thing is, the defense needs even more work.

I knew they wouldn't be competitive this year.... but I am surprised it looks like we are going to bottom out and be lucky to win a game. Every year, the pundits pick us last in the nfl.... and somehow we manage at least 6 wins and 6 teams playing worse than us. This time though... it looks like the pundits are FINALLY right.

I agree pretty much with this. But I wouldn't mind at all having him as a backup. And to a certain point, I think I wouldn't mind him starting next year while we work in a rookie QB.

I think that stuff is pretty obvious and a lot of us knew that. Especially after the pats* game people here were saying that their defense was just terrible and that is why the offense looked decent. Though as for the jests game, most of that was on the recievers I think (and the defense of course). Fitz threw some nice balls, but a lot were dropped. Fitz is def a better fit than edwards in there.... but we also need a franchise QB. But I think many people here already took the defenses we played into consideration awhile ago. Especially at the Pats* game.

way too early to fire him. espectially when his monay is guarenteed.

hahaha. Going to wave a cardboard sign "need tix, yo"

He was also assistant GM. And he resigned from there on his own free will. Really, it seems like you have a bigger issue with his age than his ability. There are a number of reasons why he wouldn't get a GM job until now... if you don't know that, then you must have never worked in an executive setting. Big business is VERY political, and a lot of friendships, conections, and other issues come into play in the business world. The "best guy" doesn't always get the job. I am not a huge nix fan, but when you rag on the guy and end it with his age, that is just foolishness. There was what? 2 people out there with GM experience? And one of them was bruce allen? I have no hate for Allen, but no love for him either. Dungy was more helpful with the bucs than he was... following the bucs down here, allen made more mistakes than a GM should. There aren't that many people with GM experience. The next best thing is assistant GM experience. Which nix has. Nix is not "just a scout" like you claim.