DanInUticaTampa

There are so many things that factor into who we draft, we don't have a clue right now. the biggest factors being: 1) Where we land in the draft 2) What holes we fail to fill in Free Agency 3) How the pro prospects play the rest of the year. Right now, I think Luck is worthy of a #1 pick, but that can change in a heartbeat. I certainly wouldn't take a LB at 1 if that is where people are leaning. Right now, a lot of us (inlcuding me) are guessing assuming we get the 1st pick.... which may or not happen. If we somehow go to picking 3rd or 4th, then that will certainly change a lot. Really, we have no idea how the season will unfold and who we end up with. But if we do get the first overall pick, I almost guarenttee that we will know who we pick by the end of march.

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/121980-cordaro-howard/ some people have said some good things there.

how is it the fans fault? did they pick the players/coaches/front office?

I almost want this thread pinned so Napolian can see this when he returns but I wouldn't be surprised if he never shows up again. A lot of these types seem to sign up for a month and make a lot of noise, but disappear then disappear once they realize they have nothing to say.

I can actually understand this repsonse, and relate to it. I guess the best thing to do is agree to disagree and just hope for a winning bills team sooner than later, no matter what it takes

Against a weaker opponent? Yes.

Well, I probably thought you were talking to me because you were quoting my posts...... so I was repsonding. I don't know why you would quote me and talk about what OTHERS have been saying... but whatever. I think the first thing you said to me was "GEE, i hope gailey is SMARTER than you." I thought when you quoted me and said that, you were talking to me. I didn't know you were talking to random people that weren't me That you for trying to answer my question, but you haven't explained to me what is wrong with waiting and seeing what happens with these QBs.

..... then I dont know what you are talking about. I haven't made any decision on Fitz. I said I wanted to wait and see how fitz and luck did the rest of the season before making any decisions, and you said: Tell me, WHAT is wrong with me waiting to see what fitz and luck do the rest of the season? If you have a problem with people deciding on Fitz, then go complain to them. I haven't made any decisions on fitz for 2011. I said I wanted to wait and see how these players played the rest of the season, and you said waiting and seeing would just lead to more waiting.... you aren't making any sense. even if I said fitz shouldn't start next season, why would you tell me "the more you wait and see will lead to more waiting and seeing?" That makes no sense. You would be telling me to wait and see before making my judgments. You are picking an argument with me that you should be having with other people. Please, start making sense. because this: makes no sense really, how does this: mean this? Those two quotes are saying the complete opposite and if you can't see that your reading comprehension is terrible.

The thing about fitz is, I have seen this guy have A LOT of good games and a lot of bad games. I remember being in college when he played for the rams and they sent him in due to injury and the big story on espn that week was how a harvard QB played well. He goes up and down like a rollercoaster. I want to see how he plays the rest of the season before I decide whether or not he is a franchise QB. For all I know, he could fit gailey's system really well and play consistant the rest of the season or he can go back to his roller coaster ways. It is all up in the air at this point. But we all know he had a good game today against a great defense. That counts for a lot. But still a lot of football left.

if we draft a defensive back in the first three picks, I am going to laugh, cry, laugh, and cry the rest of the season. We can cut florence and STILL not need a top pick DB.

Well, then I don't know what you are talking about. I said the we should wait and evalutate talent and you went on a little venting saying we shouldn't wait.... I don't know why you think we shouldn't wait to evaluate talent. I said we should wait to decide whether or not luck was worht the 1st pick and you said THIS: What are you talking about then? I thought you were saying we shouldn't wait to evaluate the talent and should just decide now..... if you can clear up whatever the hell you are talking about, it would help.

That is why I said at least most of his first year. Him starting after one year is optimistic. I am thinking 2-3 years is more realistic.

On another note, I remember when Jauron took us to 5-1, and we were "playoff bound" and gave him like a 3-4 year extension. Then of course the season went to hell. Good thing we didn't wait until later in the season to sign him the extension! hahaha, this whole thing where we have to decide the roster for 2011 NOW is just.... nuts. I can't believe someone is suggesting that.

What else are you going to evalute talent for NEXT year? Are you saying the bills should make their draft picks now and declare who starts at each position in 2011 NOW?!?! hahaha, that front office. What are they waiting for! next season is less than a year away and they haven't made thier draft picks and haven't announced their 2011 starting roster yet this is ridiculous. You claiming the bills should decide their starters for 2011 this early is insane. Yes, I believe the bills should evaluate every player. free agent, and major college player before deciding how they handle the roster in 2011. But i guess they should do what you suggest and draft their players now....

No I'm not. We have more that one need... saying we have more than one need isn't contradicting yourself..... Like the guy above me said.... almost no linebackers are taken with the 1st overall pick (if that is the pick we get). So you saying a linebacker is worth the 1st overall pick but not luck is crazy. Very few linebackers get picked 1st overall. And I sure don't think any of the linebackers in THIS draft is worth the 1st overall pick at all. But if we somehow win some games and pick 4th or 5th, Clayborne looks nice. But right now, Clayborne doesn't look like 1st pick overall material.

You know, you are just as bad as the people that said Fitz is no better than a backup, but worse. HOW do you know for sure if Luck isn't worth the 1st pick? For all you know, fitz can suck the rest of the year and Luck could be awesome the rest of the year. You don't know if that will happen or not. If you think you can predict the future so well, go to vegas and bet on fitz (you can do this) and become a millionaire. There are no sure things in football and you claiming there is is flat out wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. The best way to judge a QB is how he finishes. You wanting to judge two qbs before they finish a season is irrational.

Agreed, and if it works out that way, the team might be playoff be playoff worthy if the rookie defensive players contribute well. also, I think easley will be a nice addition to the offense as well next season.

Agreed. We actually have playmakers in the secondary (byrd) but he is worthless with no pass rush. I don't know what is more important need for us at this point, pass rush or stopping the run. The way they worked the 4-3 today, it seems like they are trying to find a way to stop the run rather than get to the QB. What we really need is linebackers... and if we have the 1st pick, I don't know many linebackers that were taken with that spot. But it all depends. We don't know how the bills and college players will finish, and we don't know where we are picking. so there are too many ifs, ands, or buts to really act like for sure we know where we go in the draft.

Agreed. I wouldn't mind calling him a franchise QB, but he isn't elite.

How do you know that when the season isn't finished? Have you not watched a single stanford game this season? Good grief . I hope gailey/nix are smarter than you and know that there is another half+ of college football to evaluate

agreed. An away game against a great Defense with Ed Reed returning looked like a terrible matchup. I didn't think Fitz would do well at all. But I didn't feel the need to make a thread stating the obvious (that this was a tough matchup). The fact that he had to take a shot at a bills player who has actually played well recently, and was wrong about it, is just a douche move. And then there was all that Kelsey talk of him defending kelsey, but trashing Fitz? I mean, i know the bills aren't good, but hate on the players that deserve the hating.

I agree. IF luck proves to be a Big ben/peyton/rivers type, AND he is available, I say you draft him. Look at the browns.... Anderson had a pro bowl season, and then he became garbage. Anyone who is saying Fitz is a lock is being over optimistic. I love fitz right now and I have no problem with him being the starter, but if we can get a better QB, I say it is worth it. And what is more ridiculous is people saying that if we don't use the 1st pick on the defense the defense will suck... since when is the 1st pick the only player aquisition we are allowed to have? But I agree with you that if Luck somehow screws up a lot, keeping Fitz is the better choice. Right now, I still like Luck more, but there is a lot of football left to play. For all I know, fitz can suddenlly suck the rest of the year and luck is huge or visa versa. Anyone that sounds so sure of themselves doesn't know what they are talking about. We are like halfway in the season.... there should be a lot of ifs, ands, and buts in people's predictions until there is more to look at.

Even if Fitz is a franchise QB, if you have a chance to grab a QB that has a good chance of being an elite QB, you grab him. Those players don't come around often. And of course Gailey is smarter than me AND you about football. You don't coach football that long to have the average internet poster know more than you . so your prayers are answered, gailey IS smarter about football than you or me.... but to your disappointment, that doesn't mean he is going to handle things the way you want him to. Nix just spent the last 2 weeks on the road evaluating QBs... that is a lot of time for our Top football guy to put in for a position they have no interest in drafting in...

Only if you don't improve the defense Besides, there wouldn't be a contraversy if fitz played decent and the defense sucked. Fitz is going to start next year no matter what. If we get a QB, he is going to play behind fitz at least most of his first year and just learn. Defense issues don't cause QB contraversies. crappy QBs cause QB contraversies, unless you are in philelphia.

that is the funny thing about predictions....