DanInUticaTampa

No. Betty White doesn't qualify for the draft. If they like her, they can sign her as a FA. But she aint going to be in the Draft.

I don't think we trade him until next season. If Easley didn't get hurt, he might have shown enough flashes to where we could trade Lee. But he isn't here. I said in another thread, after the spiller pick, I wouldn't be surprised if they draft AJ Green. If that happens, I expect Lee to be traded for like a 4th rounder by the deadline. But I don't see lee getting traded before the draft.

Truth is, there are a few gems of QBs in later rounds. But if you look at the very best QBs in this league, MOST of them were taken in the 1st round. You got peyton, rivers, rodgers, big ben, matt ryan, Vick, etc. You want an elite QB? You can get one outside of round 1, but your BEST chance is to grab one in round 1. And yeah, of course there are a lot of first round busts as well. And the people that use this argument to say that we shouldn't draft a QB in the first round say it with such authority with "the draft is a crapshoot! don't do it!" type nonsense. Really? the draft is a crapshoot and THAT is your reasoning for not drafting a QB? They say it like drafting a DE or a LB is a surefire, can't miss pick or close to it. Have they SEEN our first round picks? We have missed on so many first round picks the last decade, and only one of them was a QB. People who don't want to pick a QB because of their Bust potential are being ridiculous. Seriously, there are a lot of first round busts every year that are not QBs. The QBs are just the ones that get the most attention. Odds of us picking Luck and him being a bust is just as likely as us picking up a DT and him turning into a mcargo, or picking an LT and him turning out to be williams. That is the facts. As far as luck, he might not even be available. But IF we get him, I would feel very confident in that pick. Nix was part of the chargers when they grabbed both brees and rivers... so he must have some decent idea on what to look for in a young QB. Also, he has personally scouted Luck more than once, so he should have a good idea with first hand knowledge of luck. Nix might not be a great GM, but he is one hell of a scout. Since he personally scouted Luck, so if we pick him, he must be worth it. So personally, it might be the first time I would really trust them with a first round pick, if they like him. And personally, I have a bad feeling we can expect another spiller type pick and drafting evan's future replacement. Seems natural since last year we had too many RBs, so we drafted an RB. I bet this year, we have too many WRs, so we draft one early. Then trade lee midseason or trade him in october. If we don't get luck, then I would like defense of course, but I have a bad feeling it is going to go a way we don't want.

Try telling that to Trent Edwards.

I am an optimist, so I would look at the brightside either way. My first choice, no matter how much I want luck, would be for us to win, win, win. I want to win. Winning as much now is the best step to take to a better season next year. Of course, if we lose out and hit rock bottem, I will say "at least we get a high draft pick." Of course, that setteling for a high draft pick looks less good if you have that happen consequetive years. So I am hoping next year our record is A LOT better than this year. Don't want a record like this for a long time.

Delhomme hasn't been the same since the injury a couple years ago. Anyone who thought he would be better than Fitz by now was mistaking greatly. He was terrible last year and he is terrible this year. That injury has killed his career. He was never great, but he was a steady franchise QB back in the day. But that was awhile ago.

Mularky's problem here was that he was calling plays that were waaaay to difficult for the type of talent we had. And sometimes it was just bizzar. It would be like 4th and goal on the one yard line, Losman just starting out, and he calls like a crazy form of the flea flicker type stuff.

Oh yeah, taking out a players knees and possibly ending their career is what we call a "noogie" . I guess to you an indian burn would be trying to break someone's neck?

There can be only one explanation: Rounds 5 and below are chosen by football people, and rounds 1-4 are picked by ralph wilson.

This means we beat the pats* this season! woot!

To me, he hasn't come a long way. The guy has always played a lot of good games, but at the same time he has always played a lot of bad games. That is why looking at the yearly stats like you just are not honest. The biggest difference between this year and last is simple: Coaching. That is the biggest difference on this team, and coaching is what has improved this offense. Unless you believe that roscoe, stevie, the oline, and fitz all decided to learn football at the very same time. The offense as a whole is playing better because of coaching. But if you want, you can say they just grew up and improved on their own. And yeah, edwards sucked in gailey's offense. Maybe it was because edwards was that bad? I mean, even Fitz did better than edwards last year as well. So maybe Fitz is just better than edwards? Kindof got me on this one. He has reached his peak, yet can improve. Maybe it's becuase I can't read, but I always thought when someone was at their peak, they were the best they were ever gonna be. In all relevance, he has reached his peak. He can improve, but it wont be much. I don't see this guy becoming better than manning, big ben, brady, brees, favre, rivers, vick, ryan,etc which is my point. He can improve, but he won't be these guys. Of course, there is a VERY small chance that could happen, but I highly doubt it. If you think the odds are he would, then that is good for the optimism. But This guy will still be in the bottom half of the league next year. This is probably going to be buffalo's best and hopefully only chance to get a top QB in the draft. We almost never pick in the top 5 and we might never again in a long time. I see nothing wrong with grabbing a QB and developing him while Fitz runs the team. Hell, I would rather have a young QB learning from fitz rather than grabbing at straws again when he is gone. And then you complain about the defense and the the offensive line.... all that stuff has been getting worked on and will continue to be getting worked on. I don't know why you people who think taking a QB with ONE pick means you are ignoring the trenches. That is just insane. The bills have more than one pick and they have Free agency. The bills obviously care about the trenches. The past two years, they have worked on the trenches more than anything. in 2009 they spent a first round pick AND a second round pick on the o-line. In 2010, the spent a 2nd round AND a third round pick on the defensive line, including additional picks at tackle and LB. And then they signed as FA Davis and Edwards to the front 7. That is like 5 new players to the front 7 plus kyle williams who is a stud.... they basically ignored 1 out of the 6 needs on the front 7, and you say that is bad? in Just one offseason, they got 5 new players for the front 7, and you think that they are ignoring the trenches? It is just crazy. It sucks moats, carrington and troup are not all pros, I know. Too bad kyle williams wasn't an all pro in his first year either. But they are addressing the trenches. They just need to teach the players the positions and continue working on them by adding more talent. I bet there is a better chance they do additional work on the trenches than there is a chance of Fitz repeating another good year. I think he might actually end up taking a few steps back next year, but that is just a hunch rather than anything I really feel. I think that it is just crazy that I say I want to develop a QB, and it is like some terrible thing is going to happen to this team because of it. It is really going to suck next year if Fitz pulls a Derrick anderson and just messes up next year.... really, you dont' know if fitz will repeat or get better next year anymore than I know of Luck actually turning into a well worth pick. But there is nothing wrong with developing a young player while having another player play the games. I get that you don't want to draft a QB. I don't get why people (not just you) Think the front office has neglected the trenches when that is the number one thing that has been addressed in the past two offseasons. They have obviously been building the trenches. Most of their draft picks and free agent signs have been for the trenches. They are far from ignoring them

That is because you don't just become "talented." You are either talented, or you are not. You can improve on strength, conditioning, and skills, but you are not going to improve your actual talent much at all. I have seen Fitz play just as good 6 years ago. Maybe you didn't watch him 6 years ago, but he was just as good then. Yeah, his yearly stats you keep throwing out there don't show that, but maybe that is because 6 years ago that year he only played one game! But look at his stats in his first game! He is like one of 5 QBs to throw over 300 yards his opening game.... he threw like 3-4 TDs in one game... and that was 6 years ago. If you think he is playing better now than back when he was throwing 300 yards, and 3 TDs, then you are just crazy. I NEVER said he couldn't improve. I said he wasn't going to get any more talented. Huge difference. If you can't see the difference, hit the books and dictionary. You certianly implied it. I SAID Luck had potential, and you looked at that and said "if you think it is just cool to pick luck, mallet, or locker just say so." WTf... I am talking about potential of a young QB prospect, and what you got from that was I think it is just "cool?" Give me a break. I never even mentioned mallet or locker, so I don't know why you even threw their names out there at all. No, chances are BETTER for luck. You don't know what he is capeable in the NFL. He is a huge prospect and is looking almost as good as bradford. Luck has way more potential than fitz. Fitz more than likely has reached his peak. Oh no! Does that mean he can't improve?! Of course not. He can obviously improve, like learning how to read defenses, maybe practice his throwing motion. But his talent is going to change, his release isn't going to change, and so on. Yeah, you say "a lot of QBs take time to improve." BS. But their 5th or 6th year, you have a pretty good idea on all QBs. If you think that by their 6th year they didn't know what steve young could do, you are crazy. Yeah, I don't think that at all. I don't know why you kept guessing what I am thinking. I say "potential" and you think I mean "cool," I say fitz has the same talent he always had and you say "can't improve." Then I don't know where you get this stuff from My opinion? I love fitz. I think he is great and probably the best QB we had in awhile. I don't think he is better than brady, big ben, peyton, rodgers, rivers, favre, ryan, bradford, vick, Brees, or any of the other Elite QBs. I would like Fitz to be our QB for the next two years or more while developing a QB who could become an elite QB. Someone with a rare talent that you can't just learn, but you are BORN with it. Someone to groom into a future HOF QB of the future. And personally, if we are going to say the QB position is locked and ready because of one good season, then we are just being dumb. Derrick anderson had 1 good year with the Browns, and look where he is now. I say at least have a back up plan. And if you think he has improved so much over the years, look at his first game his rookie season. The guy threw for like 300 yards, 3-4 TDs, and was the "big story" on espn all week. That game was 6 years ago, and was just as good as he is playing this year. If you want to look at his yearly stats to argue he has improved, you haven't seen this guy play before he became to the bills. The guy proved he always had the talent to make it in the nfl. He didn't just show up to the bills and magically improve.

I never said "fitz can't improve." I said he probably won't be elite. Chances are, he won't be. And stop putting words in my mouth and learn some reading comprehension. Go to school or pick up a book. I NEVER said take Luck because it is "cool." I said take luck because of his potential. If you are confusing the words "cool" and "potential" you MUST have failed 3 grade levels... or are still in middle school. Learn to read, then get back to me.

He does seem to fit the nix criteria.

Because he has been in the league for what, 5 years now? And it is obvious why he has improved this year from last year: Coaching. But you are acting like this is the first time Fitz has actually played well. Did you not watch this guy at all before he became a bill? When he filled in for the rams due to injury his rookie season, all espn could talk about all week was "MAN! This harvard QB is pretty damn good!" and that was like 5 years ago. The guy is good, but if he had the talent to become an elite QB, he would have shown it by now. The guy has the same talent he has always had, and has grown as far as his instincts go. But his talent isn't going to be elite. QBs don't just become talented overnight after being ok for 5 years. Unless you are michael vick who wastes his life away, then decides to use his talent after sitting in prison. But yeah, aren't these the years that a QB should be in their prime to begin with? Unless what I am saying is against the norm, I don't know why you are shocked by what I said.

It is obvious his point was that Luck actually has the potential to be an elite QB, where Fitz has probably reached his potential. This might be our best shot to get a QB with this much potential, yet too many people are saying "pass" because it is ok to settle for a QB that plays well.... taking a QB with Luck's potential is well worth it, and is something this team needs. As far as the trenches go, we have been building in the trenches. We used a 1st rounder AND a 2nd rounder on the offensive line all in the same draft.... we have developed bell into a decent LT (a MUCH better LT than the steelers are dealing with right now). And in the last draft, 2 of our top 3 picks we on the defensive line. People keep crying that we have to build the trenches, yet they don't see them actually doing that? All you guys see is spiller, maybin, and DBs and complain about the trenches. The past two drafts have been working toward the trenches more than anything. The starting offensive line is looking pretty good right now, aside from RT. Our Depth now... that sucks. But if you are saying we should build o-line depth over looking for a franchise QB, then that is just WAY to conservative and crazy to draft oline depth over a franchise QB. The defensive line obviously needs some work, but they are obviously going to address that since they are already working on it. In one offseason they brought in 4 new players/big prospects for the front 7: Davis, Edwards, Troup, carrington. Then you can throw moats in there as a player who actually developed faster. Truth is, they ARE working on the trenches. They need a lot more work though. But I see nothing to say they are going to stop working on them.

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They did bring in a couple decent free agents, but they are both on IR now. It isn't crazy to think that they won't fill at least 2-3 holes via free agency. I think now that Chan has seen this team more, he is going to be asking for a lot, so I expect more activity than last year as long as the free agency period isn't turned completly upside down. I just don't think that it is fair to say nix/whaley is the same as levy, guy, and danahoe. Of course, modrack is still there, which sucks. And that cornell green signing sure was a nightmare. But at least when he didn't work, they released him. Same with hardy. Nix has done a lot of things I don't like, but so far I like what chan has done on offense, they seem to scrap players that don't work, the kelsey extention (though I still don't like it) looks a lot better than before, free agents davis/edwards looked good, etc. I doubt that they have the ability to put together a superbowl team (or even a team that will make it far in the playoffs) during their stay in buffalo, but this doesn't seem like the front office of the bills the last 10 years. The one thing that still bothers me most is that cornell green signing and modrak still being there. But those are really the only two things that reek of the former bills.

Well, we already have the young recievers.

Winfield and williams are the only two players we rid of that I wish we still had. I don't miss the jonathon scotts, robert royals, nate clements, trent edwards, jp losmans, and even the sam aikens at all. And at this point, I would take freddie/spiller over mcgahee/lynch. And I'll admit, there are days I miss peters... but I love wood, and bell is getting better. So screw him for all the headachs and holdout. That is just stupid of him. As for lenard... I remember the fans liking him and him being a stud on special teams, but he just couldn't get it together on defense. And it is a wierd thing, because as bad as our coaching was, the one thing we seemed to coach well was the DBs.... so a bit of a mystery how we missed on that one. Yeah, it sucks so bad that fat pat isn't still a bill.

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more than that.

If they give us to him for free, then I say go ahead and PS him. But don't give up any draft picks for a player that has almost no chance of being a great QB. I'd rather have clausen. Give me luck or wait until another year to grab the future QB.

Hire mcdaniels as QB coach. And Gruden sounds like a good choice to replace him.

Even though he hasn't gotten a lot of touches, and has looked downright BAD on some runs, I think he is averaging more than 4 yards a carry right now. That stat alone gives me enough hope that he won't be a bust. Personally, there are other players I wish we took instead. Most of them on the defensive side.