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You don't cut Kelsey. He is the only 4-3 de on our team. The guy isn't great, but he is serviceable, if not above average in the 4-3. Now 3-4 olb he is worthless. But they aren't going to get a replacement for him. Hell, they have to find someone to play opposite him, then they have to find depth for both sides. There are no players that are cap casualties. Mcgee looked like he would be, but guess not. Merriman and dwan will prob get cut, but just because they don't fit in the 4-3, not because it will give us more cap room

To be fair, there really aren't any exciting des this year.

So same money, different incentives if you go by that source.

If the bills don't sign stevie, I think he will be the next best thing for a consolation prize. The guy is the same age as stevie, has potential, and is just slightly less productive in terms of stats. It would be amazing if they were able to get both, but I don't know how serious they are about keeping stevie and getting a threat next to him in one season.

Exactly. Nix said when he first came here he wouldn't spend big in free agency and spend it on its own that played well. We have not spent big in fa, Nd if we don't resign our core players then this front office has not lived up to their word. I am fine not going crazy in fa, but keep our own players that play well is a must

Saw that as well. They also all said they think he will stay on buffalo even though they are far apart now . And mort said he thinks Stevie will be the best value. But yeah, saying Stevie is immature and giving desean a free pass is silly.

Agreed that stevie is way better than those two. Just not a fan of meachem. He just doesn't seem to be a recieving threat, and it seems like more of a cheap option than a real upgrade. And I like jones on our team, but I don't like him as a starter. Our starters should be Stevie, someone else, and nelson with jones and whoever as the backups with chandler as TE. that seems like a stable core to me. Personally, I think Garcon would be our best option, but like someone else said, it doesn't fit what Nix was talking about. most of the others seem more like a pipe dream. Bowe will probably stay in KC, loyed might end up going to the Pats* since he knows mcdanials well. Manningham will probably get an overpaid contract (not here) because of his superbowl catch. I don't know why, but I feel like he will end up in cincy or san fran. Garcon will probably stay in indy if they let manning walk, becuase they will need all the help they can get for a young QB. And something makes me feel like Vincent jackson will end up in St louis. And then, like a lot of us, stevie just might end up in san fran. and of course, desean jackson and welker are staying with their teams. Colston is the one reciever I can't get a feel for where he is going. Not sure how much wiggle room the saints will have after the brees signing, plus they have other FAs to sign. I am almost hoping that if they don't resign him, san fran does and that gives us a good chance to keep stevie. They are so many wideouts out there, stevie might not have as many options as he is expecting. Meachem just seems like a player that "if we want him, we can have him" type deal. I don't think people are going to demand his sercices and I don't think he will cost that much. But I don't think he will make any difference at all, and if we lose stevie, our recievers will just be worse. overall, That is just silly speculation on my part.

Yeah, the bills had a good offseason last year. it is the offseasons before last year that were screwy. Really, least year: -the bills had a solid draft. Dareus, williams, sheppard, and harriston all look like they have potential and promise, even if they are not polished yet. -Bringing in Barnett and chandler proved to be awesome signings -Bills brought in a former nfl hc, and a superbowl winnning DC to coach the ILBs. If the bills have another offseason this year like they did last year, then they will make the playoffs this year I bet. Though I find it hard to imagine them having as good as an offseason as last year. I don't think picking at 10 will be as easy as picking at 3, we might lose a couple free agents that will create holes, and then lord knows what they are going to really go after in free agency. I am personally expecting a "meh" offseason. Even if they bring in a couple quality players, we will probably lose stevie, bell, and/or chandler. and if we keep 1 or more of those guys, we probably don't bring in anyone special from the outside to upgrade. As for the draft, we have no idea where these guys are going to go. they have too many new people on the front office, and hard to tell if they will be better than, the same, or worse than modrack. People can say ralph is making these picks, and until he is dead, the picks won't get better, but I highly doubt ralph is making all our draft choices. I hope we have an awesome draft, because if we don't, that will just show that that overall on the talent evalulaters did nothing for us.

better recievers out there. would rather have v jackson, bowe, garcon, Colston, Lloyd, or Manningham, even though they will cost more.

I don't know. Nix and gailey seem like financial wizards to me. Turned down big wall street jobs to run our football team

Agreed that the "far apart" is a bad sign. But does them agreeing to meet at the combine make that any better, or is that meeting really mean very litte? I am sure at the combine, not much can really get done as far as contract talks go, but I think agreeing to talk more would show both sides haven't given up hope. Then again, I might just be clinging to any sign of optimism.

Good lord, as soon as it seems like people stopped with this nonsense it picks up again. Way to be completly disrespectful and try to chase away the few remaining posters that actually have value in their posts.

Carr is way too pricey. That money would be better spent elsewhere

He was cut because of his cap hit and most teams are staying away from him because of the money he made before, and he really isn't that great to begin with. If sign him for a low amount, it will be worth it because it will save us a draft pick

That is just bizzar. An offensive guy coaching d backs and assisting on special teams? Ok That is just bizzar. An offensive guy coaching d backs and assisting on special teams? Ok

It is not a science. It is economics and football all mixed together. If it was a science there would be no negotiations.

I don't think he said that. From what I remember, mcshay was the only one all over him. The rest knew there was risk and a big learning curve involved

The defense looked more organized but they still sucked. But I don't think Edwards took a backseat. The bills said Edwards still called the plays, and gailey and nix might not be the best, but they don't seem to lie

I think he is worth a draft pick. Not a high one probably. Since the small school angle didn't work out for the bills that one year, any small schooler they like will be drafted later like jasper was.

Florence will stay. Guy is under contract, is pretty good, and stays healthy. Only knock on him is bone head penalties.

Chicago decided to "not throw in the towel" I guess like the crazy thread said a week ago

I bet he gets cut during training camp. It won't be hard finding someone better than him.

Not really new. Just different than before. There were always loopholes that would allow teams to rollover, now it is just more official.

How about the years when there was no rollover and the bills were over the cap? It is not like the bills haven't spent a ton of money before

Exactly. That is the only reason for people to complain about the bills not getting into bidding wars. They just want to be random.