DanInUticaTampa

Maybe in hindsight for the moment. But last time we traded our future for a qb we got stuck with losman and we missed out on getting rodgers the following year. There are good qb prospects every year. No reason to give up that much for one player that isn't a sure thing. And if we made that trade, it would have been a lot more. Probably another 1st or maybe 2 more 2nds at the very least. Whatever we would give up, it would have been a lot more than what the skins gave up.

Yes, in recent years we used 1st round picks on dareus and wood who are great starters and 2nd round picks on byrd and levitre who are starters.

If it was just 2 first rounders it would be one thing. But 3 first rounders plus more? Hell no. I would make that trade for Aaron rodgers or maybe drew brees, but not for a player who never took an nfl snap.

I know! Buddy asleep at the wheel again!

Wow. And ppl here thought 2 first rounders would get the job done. Yeah right. We would have had to give up 4 first rounders probably. Jesus

keep in mind that the bills are going to extend freddie which will take up some cap space. not sure how much. I think after the fred jackson extension, they should be able to sign two good players that upgrade the team.

I really thought we were closer to 60 wins. it has been a nasty 12 years.

I have mixed feelings about Nix and Gailey, but overall, I like them better than the past regimes we have had. The good things about them, the offense is a threat to nfl defenses, finally. Even with the two best recievers being a 7th rounder and an undrafted guy, the offense was working for awhile. For the most part, the playcalling on the offense worked and it wasn't as predictable. Last year's draft has a lot of promise. Dareus looks like a great building block, Williams looks like he can be a starter, and Shep, for his 1st year at a tough position, got better each week, harriston looks like solid depth at worst if not a starter, and searcy looks like solid depth who could compete for a starting spot as well. And the barnett signing was just splendid and picking up pears and chandler turned out great. even if they aren't the above average players we need, they were solid contributers in positions that were upgraded with them in the lineup. And signing stevie, chandler, and morrison is just great. and extending williams and even extending fitz was great (even though there might be some worry about keeping fitz at times). Sure, stevie, fitz, and williams we recruited by other regimes. But look at the players the past regimes let walk that screwed up our team. Letting pat williams go to the vikes ruined our defensive line. Had we kept Greer maybe we would give us better depth, if not a better starter than what we have. in the past, stevie and chandler were the types of players the front office would let walk. The only time we seemed to extend anyone was when they were past their prime like evans and mcgee. re-signing the players in their prime is something more unique for this front office. The bad part about this regime is their first draft was just terrible. It is still a little early to tell on some of them, but they are showing little promise, if any. Spiller looks great and a solid player, but them drafting him makes it look like they didn't even look at the current roster before drafting him. they can play dumb and say "we didn't know what we had in fred jackson" but it isn't like that was fred's first good year... not to mention lynch was there. SPiller looks like a good talent, but the pick is still a headscratcher, and if they could get a do over on that pick, I know they would jump on it. Troup and Carrington, being small school guys were also headscratchers. I am not sure what they were thinking using two high picks on small schoolers. It was a ballsy move that didn't work out. troup, when healthy, hasn't done much at all. Carrington is good on a few snaps, but hardly looks good as an every down type of player. And the rest of that draft? Players that are already cut and gone or just not contributing, though moats has been a nice story. Then the bad part about free agency, cornell green? Good lord. And I liked, and still do, the dwan edwards and andra davis signings. they were solid stop gap guys for a bit, though they need to be replaced now. Then the bad part about gailey... as soon as wood/jackson went down, the guy completly abandoned the run game and all his playcalling just went bonkers. His playcalling was pretty fantastic early on, and I almost think that his playcalling changes is what lead to Fitz's increase in interceptions, not Fitz being "injured." I think Gailey put the game in Fitz's hands and that was just dumb. Fitz needs a strong run game to compliment him to cut back on those interceptions like the jests did when they went to the afc championships with sanchez. And as others have mentioned, their record just sucks. Comparing it to Jauron's and other regimes isn't that fair. The strength of the schedule varies a lot. the Phins and Jests got a lot better the year jauron got canned, and the teams chan has played in generall have been better teams. But still, their record sucks. And if they don't get a winning season THIS year, it is going to be time to write them off. And if they don't make the playoffs, then there should be worry about this direction. I think that if they have another Barnett type signing and a draft like last years, they will make the playoffs. But they need to add good players through the draft and free agency to do that.

I will change nothing. Even if we were the only ones, it would still cost too much to move up. Of it was just 2 or 3 spots it would be one thing, but it is too much

Yes, he is great. He is probably one of the best

I love those guys, but I don't think they are as high profile as peyton

True

Those aren't exactly major loose ends. If the bills sign a high profile pass rushed, they can use the draft to get an ot and te. I don't think chandler wants to be back, but I don't think there are going to be many, if any, teams that will pay him more than us. As for the rest of that list, low priority for right now I say

Haha, wow, never realized there was hate for peyton on this board.

Terrible comparison. It is more like a moviegoer asking another moviegoer why a movietheater is closed for awhile. You know, like a bills fan asking other bills fans why he can't register on a message board when there is no one else to talk to.

It is one thing to have a franchise qb, it is another to have an elite qb. Most franchise qbs can't take a team to the superbowl with no deep threat and one of the worst defenses ever.

So to answer your question, I don't know. I get the same message and just assume they don't want new members for whatever reason.

I have wondered about that over the years myself. I only tried a few times just to view some posts that were linked from here. Usually silly rumors. And I probably have an account there, I just don't remember the email/name I used.

Left tackle is an expensive position and bell is decent, but no way is he worth the franchise tag. Better to draft an ly and use that money grabbing some pass rush

I still say Stevie is a number one. He isn't top in the top 15, but I would say top 20. With that said, with Stevie as our best wr and Fitz our qb, we really need more receiver help.

Who says we are going to spend 9 million on Stevie and who says vj or desean would ever come here for 9 mill, even though desean is no longer an option unless you wanted to trade for him?

It is bizarre.

Yeah, this is the part that is pretty much fact. Without the actual money there is no rule broken. But with the money, you break a rule. And it looks like it was broken for awhile

Average can look pretty amazing when you compare it to the other players we had at rt in recent years

I don't think him tipping his hand really does much. I mean, Indy and St Louis have done more than tip their hand, they have outright said what they are going to do (or try to do) with their picks. I think this year, more than the others, it is harder to tell where he is going. He doesn't seem to be that interested in the DEs available in the top ten. He really seems to like Claiborne most, and he won't be there. I agree with PTR that they try to trade down this year. that top ten pick just doesn't look very nice this year. and if they can't trade down, then they either draft a whitner type pick and make a huge reach, or they take someone who falls to us unexpectly. I personally would be fine if we picked one of the OTs or Upshaw I would be ok with it. I am kind of worried about the draft this year. not really sure what to expect from the new guys like cook as evaluators. I am really just crossing my fingers.