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That isn't a a very big stretch, and I love Stevie.

Agreed. I remember (2005?) Moulds made a great one handed catch from Losman.... one of the worst throws in the world, but also one of the best catches. Really one of the moments that proved Losman shouldn't be playing.

The second article is basically making an argument that EJ might be able to take the bills offense into the top ten, if he starts. Reasons given: -There is lots of talent in the offense with an under rated oline and Spiller, with one of the better rushing attacks - Stevie averaged 22.2 yards per reception on throws 11 or more yards downfield, and he was the 16th best reciever at this stat - Offense Plays to EJ's strengths. If there is nothing open for him to throw the ball, he can just run with it or check it down - last year's offense averaged 5.58 yards per a play, and was 13th in the league, and that was with poor QB play. And Fitz's play was so poor, the bar isn't high for EJ to at least match it. - Woods and Goodwin are good additions for talent And last part was that if EJ was able to get the vertical passing up from poor to mediocre from what Fitz did, that would be a huge step and could make this a top ten offense. Nothing really all that interesting. same stuff that has been passed around the boards here. Though the first article was nice because it was basically a more organized description of the schemes we will run. But nothing special.

I thought it would make it, but so many of the early ones were one handed catches that I am thinking now this one might be left out. So there probably won't be a single Bills play in the top 100, because that was def their best play of the season.

would make more sense if they did this in november or decemeber.

naw man. They should make a trade for that levitre kid. he is the missing piece!

nothing but speculation http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/158005-jairus-byrd-jason-peters-part-ii/page__st__180

I know two thirds of the people in this thread thinks he is talking about the bills, but like others have said, he is talking about the cowboys. I think it is odd he didn't mention the bills. I don't think the bills ever "accepted" losing, but they just kept giving bad results because they just sucked and made mistakes. but I truly believe that they wanted to win very much the past few years.

I still think he is on the team this year.With it being all too quiet, I just don't see it playing out another play. The only other way is if he isn't on the roster is we trade him for a high draft pick. And right now, he is allowed to talk with other teams.... And it seems that no team has reached out to him, and it also appears he hasn't reached out to any teams. If another team signs him as is, they lose two first rounders. But I think teams can talk to us to trade him for a lesser amount, if he forced the issue. but they are being too quiet on both sides. Personally, I think they are just negoiating and are going to hold out until that final day in july when it is the last day to do an extension. I think a deal gets done by the deadline.

Since it is the players, I can only assume byrd will be on there somewhere. His peers seem to like him more than any other group. But I have a feeling spiller won't make the list. If spiller and byrd both make the list, then the bills will account for 1/3 of the AFCE players in the top 100

He is good in run support and he can rush the passer. He is more than just a "ballhawk." He is a solid player that is a ballhawk. those types of players don't grow on trees and losing him will only making the team more void of talent.

Agreed. I love freddie, but there are a lot of runningbacks out of work that are looking. No team would waste a draftpick on a stop gap RB when there are several other options available on the market. The bills wont cut fred though. he is the 2nd best RB on the team, and there really isn't a cheap/better option than him. I think we start to see decline in his play more and more, but I think he has a lot left to contribute. The days where he would carry the offense are over though. He is a contributer now, not a game changer.

The worst thing for pears would be IR or losing his starting role. I think Fred is needed and is safe. Scott can go either way, but they seem to like players like him that can play multiple positions, so he might have a shot. But I think Tavaris and Lindell won't make the final cut.

Well, not just EJ.... we still have that byrd fella to deal with.

So close...

amen. Though if he has a wife and kids to feed, people should at least click on it.... but still, don't read it.

They pride themselves on their bounty hunting skills. so i heard.

Yeah, I don't think the bills are going to budge much either. The only other thing that might cause trouble is the contract goldson got from tampa, where they might be pushing for that kind of a contract.

I say we still need help in ILB. Alonso has a lot of potential is really the only one we added, and that is with the loss of shepard. And Alonso has a history of getting injured, so if he gets injured, who starts in the middle? Bradham and Moats? unless that UFA rookie pulls out some surprises early on, this unit has me nervous more than any other. I can only assume they are hoping a few solid options get cut as cap casualties and they sign someone on the cheap.

I think you are right. For right now, the bills have the leverage. The only leverage Byrd has is that he hasn't signed his tender, so he doesn't have to show up to training camp. And I am sure the bills want him there since it is a new coaching staff and he is probably an important piece. So right now, the bills have most of the leverage because byrd has no other choice but to hold out. and right now, holding out does nothing. But when it gets closer to training camp, the bills might feel more pressured and fear of a holdout, and they really want him in camp, so that is when more leverage will go to byrd. Unless the bills feel it doesn't matter when he gets to camp, because his postion is going to be similar enough or trust him enough, then maybe byrd doesn't get any more leverage than he already has, which is minimal. As good as byrd is, no team is going to offer two 1st round picks for him. If any team would have done that, it would have been the 49ers pre draft, and they got a good safety in the draft and at a cheaper cost.

That sounds about right, though I feel wilfork should be in the mix as well. The talent in the AFCE has gone down a bit with Revis and Welker departing.... the bills actually got better with those two players being subtracted from the division.

Keep on rollin

I agree. I think that neither of them is using the media (though I wouldn't expect the bills or byrd to do so) then I would think this deal gets done in time. Still have plenty of time. The wildcard that made everyone nervous was his agent, for obvious reasons. But if the agent isn't making any noise right now, then they must be hopeful of a new deal. Because otherwise, there would be noise being made all over in order to try to get other teams to make offers for a trade. If they are off by 2mill in the guaranteed area, then I don't see it preventing a deal getting done before mid july.

Naw. they did say that the first bills player would make the list last night though. But I think I heard that only 9 players in the AFCE made the list... so I am wondering if spiller doesn't get on the list. I think byrd does, because he seems to get a lot of respect from the players. And for the 9 players from AFCE comment, it was something that was mentioned during the show itself, and I am pretty sure I heard that correctly.