DanInUticaTampa

maybe TO can take our offense from being really bad to just plain bad!

hmmm

haha, that would be something. I didn't realize we were playing so many 4-3 defenses. we might win more than 4 games afterall! And I think we will win at least 1 divisional game this year. we can't be that bad.

I love that oline so much better. The best part is that Butler and walker are in the same spots as last year where they were at least fine. Hangartner is a huge dissapointment. When you see two RBs have a breakout year like Williams and stewart, you would assume their Center gave them a lot of help. It is sad he isn't performing well. As for wood and levitre, I need to see them more to really get a feel for them. Bell shows promise, but I dont' know if he is ready. But if he is, put him in at LT and walker back on RT. But I don't think we are going to see many changes to the oline right away. Maybe when the Pats* kill us on monday night they will shift things around.

I like Gruden a lot, but his weakness has always been at QB. Tampa's revolving QB gig is worse than the bills'. Their qb contraversies usually involve 3 qbs, where ours usually in involve 2

we improved on that last drive! we didn't turn the ball over!

we need another thread about maybin signing, don't we.

Yeah, because he said "the fans are calling him a bust." not an expert opinion. Fans' general opinion. The best way to get what the fans in general is saying on the internet is *ding ding ding* a message board.

uh oh....... doooooomed!

what in the blue hell?

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3...1c-31c9ebd24016

apparently we haven't signed nelson, according the bb.com

oh my

I know the bills are in a tough situation in signing maybin, but it would be nice if they signed a pick (or a couple) higher than their 5th before camp starts.

didn't they all get signed on time last year?

And i really don't think there are many teams that are going to be THAT desperate for a player like vick. Without the whole crime/prison thing, he would have an easy shot. But there weren't that many teams taking a shot at TO. so i would think there would be LESS interersted in Vick. Vick is a tremendous athlete, but a terrible QB. The only reason he was so big in ATL was because the fans got excited for him (win or lose) and made the owners money. Vick was a terrible passer. He got away with so much because of his running around. he is headed to the UFL to face Losman for the championship

I like Florio and all, but that "comparable" term is misleading, since Vick and Edwards are nothing alike as far as Talent, style, personality, athleticism, intelligence, etc. So, using "logic," does that mean, by florio's opinion, that if edwards is just as good/as bad as Vick, that 13 starters are better than Edwards, seven who are comparable, and a dozen who are worse? I mean, if there are 12 starting QBs worse than edwards, he has some more upside, eh?

it isn't like walker hasn't played LT for us before and hasn't butler played RT his entire college career? These aren't exactlty positiotns they never played before.

By "more money" it means getting paid more than what you are making right now. he is not asking for more money, he is asking to stay on the team. where does it say he won't work for the same amount of money he is getting paid right now?

nowhere in that article does whitner say "i plan on being a backup" anything. if byrd starts at Free Saftey, then whitner will start at strong saftey. whitner is not going to be a backup unless scott, simpson, or someone else on the team can beat out whitner. that probably is not going to happen

our young guys that actually have talent. hopefully that includes edwards

one posibility is that they put hardy on IR and keep jenkins. mainly for his ST contribution. but i am not sure how likely that is. but that is the only way i see jenkins staying on this team

it steve johnson learns a lot from TO, it would be even awesome. I am sure he can learn a lot from one year with TO. I am thinking we will have a decent WR corps, even after TO, as long as Johnson and Hardy develop. They aren't guarentees, but i expect at least one of them to make a decent contribution

josh reed is a bust!

winfield, for being a small guy, could tackle really well when he was with us