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I don't think that there is an agenda exactly. I do think the local media is extremely biased against EJ. I personally think it is because even though all 3 of these guys look like a lousy excuse for a starting QB, EJ is the one the local media has seen play the most in the past couple years, so he is the one they are being more critical on. Where as cassel and taylor weren't here last year, so they "have to be better!" is in their mindset. I don't think they even realize where there bias stem from, or realize it exists. but I am pretty positive it is because EJ is a holdover from last season and the other guys are new. I don't think they have an agenda though.

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Our QB situation has really sucked, but I am so glad we don't have bullygate, deflategate, and this breaking players jaw issues that our division has had over the years. Now, I would gladly take all 3 of those problems in exchange for aaron rodgers.

"used to be" was just meant as in that the draft used to be the biggest thing I would read his posts for, but now that has expanded to other things haha. He is also an excellent follow on twitter, any bills fan on twitter needs to follow him. He was one of my favorite people to follow during free agency this year.

I second this. At least create a blog. Astro used to be great for draft stuff, but over the years his analysis of training camps and other stuff has really grown as well. There are a lot of draft stuff out there, but he would really stand out with his other stuff. Not being able to go to camp, his stuff seems to be the most informative. All the "professionals" say the same thing and are redundant. Astro puts in points about things that I don't think the reporters even understand

These are things I am wondering too as what is the problem. With his accuracy, when it comes to "point and shoot" his accuracy seems high, like elite high. But then in an in game setting, that is where his accuracy takes a nose dive. Is it because he isn't processing info fast enough? Not reading a defense? Confidence issue? Game plan/coaching? Chemstry? Bad oline? If he isn't processing info fast enough, I would think experience would help him with that. I go back to his rookie year. If my memory is right, the jests are the only team he has played twice. In his rookie year they had a pretty good d. In the first game, he looked horrible. In the 2nd game, he probably had his best game. So I really thought after playing the jets D, he learned and understood it better and in turn he was able to play much better in the 2nd jets game. This is going back to his rookie year though the short passes are concerning to me because I would think that would be better by now. I have not been at camp, but based on how he played in the past, his short throws that missed were caused by pressure from the D line. And we really need someone that is better when being pressured, because in our division, the QB is going to get pressured a lot, even if the oline is better than last year. Being better at longer passes than short gives me bad memories of losman. Couldn't manage a game to save his life. If he didn't complete an 80 yard bomb to evans then he wasnt scoring period. I like EJ, and I am rooting for him. I am hoping that not only does he win the job, but he actually turns into a decent QB.

They really need to increase the roster size from 53 to like 56. With all the multiple formations and specialty roles, teams need extra roster spots in the modern day nfl.

I think they keep all 4 on through the 3rd preseason game just in case there is an injury. After the third game is where 1 of them will be cut.

Except when trent edwards was our QB. He looked like a stud in camp, and everything looked fine to everyone. But then we saw him play a game.... I am not hitting the panic button yet. Anyone that was expecting a QB to light it up this quickly was dreaming. We don't have a lot of talent at the QB position. I think when rex said the blue/white scrimmage on saturday will be the first big test, I think that is true. We don't know how these QBs are doing because we aren't seeing everything. There might be better or worse results going on in the closed practices.

I need to see them in some preseason games before I go all chicken little. I still think these coaches are handling this right. the last time I recall a legit 3 QB competition was when the seahawks did it with Flynn, Wilson, and jackson. You had 1 vet, 1 unknown backup, and 1 rookie. We arguably have a similar thing with 1 unknown backup, 1 vet, and 1 young player. This is a good recipe. Cassel has vet experience and we kind of know what we get from him. Taylor and EJ both have potential, so maybe one of them surprises. I really think we are doing this QB situation the best way we can with what we have. And I don't think there is any other QB available via trade or whatever that would be better than these guys. If we can improve the run game from last year, our offense will be a lot better, even if the QB play doesn't improve. I think it is because no one wants to admit that Cassel may be the starter. At least with a younger player, you can say there is .0001% chance he turns the corner. but with a 10 year vet, what you see is what you get. People are clinging to hope that there is some potential in the young QB so that our answer for QB is on the roster. But chances are we are going to be drafting a QB high in the draft next year and probably signing another vet somewhere in there as well.

Not every competition has to last very long. They probably saw enough to know they were the best for those positions and decided to keep them there.

id rather have matt simms

Kiko was only going to be a low cost guy for two years max. after that (possibly sooner) he will get a huge payday. We are talking maybe 2 years worth of savings. which is nice, but if we dont have to pay top dollar for a QB, it really isn't that big of a deal. We aren't going to be able to keep all of our players, but I don't think the mccoy think really hurt us in the cap. The only thing it may have hurt is our ability to re-sign dareus, which I think will still get done but they might have to get a little more creative with it since it is going to be such a massive contract. As for the other guys like glenn, gilmore, and so on, the cap keeps getting bigger. So our ability to re-sign guys gets easier. Our cap number this year wont be our cap number next year. I think the cap going up each year is why we re-signed hughes and publicly said we are going to keep dareus. Putting that much money on the dline makes more sense when the cap keeps going up, because the percentage of the cap going toward the dline goes down. I am more worried about our QB and oline than I am about re-signing guys and mccoys contract

and if not extended, gets the tag. I cant seem them letting him walk

I think that is how it will play out. Unless something really crazy happens, Im thinking a 2-4 game suspension is the worst case scenario. I think it is possible for the bills to cut ties with him, but we need OL help, and he is good at what he does. Bills are also a little more forgiving than other teams

if that is the case,then the provoking was minimal at worst.

Then the police didn't do their job (which is very possible). they should have weighed what kromer said. If kromer gave them enough reasonable story to justify what he did, they never should have arrested him.

The people who think he is going to be exiled from the nfl are ridiculous. Coaches have done a lot worse and got a slap on the wrist. Things might be worse for him with all the domestic violence stuff that happened last year with the players As far as the provoking goes....since he was arrested, and based on what people are saying, I would speculate that what provoked him didn't actually happen that night. With him allegedly "setting this up" to trap the kids, these kids or other kids have been messing around his property but he couldn't catch them. Then finally one night, he caught them and he went nuts on them after a couple weeks of them doing whatever do his property. That could be completly false, but it is something that fits more into what is going on. Because if the kids did something that night that was bad enough to warrant being hit, then the police wouldn't arrest him. So either the police made a huge error or he wasn't provoked that night, but provoked prior to that night. There are a lot of questions that are unanswered. Did the kids hit them back? If these kids were rowdy and were doing things where they deserved to be hit, wouldn't they be the types to hit him back? And why would kromer let his kid stay with these kids if they were such a danger? doesn't make any sense. So little facts to this story, and we only have one side to work with. But if I had to bet money on it, these kids were probably toying with him for a week before that night. It lines up with why he would set them up, why he is so pissed, and why the police arrested him. This is just me guessing though.

not many. most are being rational But I have been seeing quite a few posts like the one I quoted. I mean, the sarcasm of him saying " You are right makes way more sense than spoiled expectant little turds getting their just desserts. " I mean, wtf? We have so little info and we are leaning that these kids deserved to be hit? We heard from the kids what kromer allegedly did. But we haven't heard from kromer what the kids actually did, other than take some beach chairs. I just find it hard to say these kids deserved to be hit because they moved some beach chairs onto public property. I am very interested in hearing kromers side of the story. but whatever he said isn't in the report, and we have this mystery insight from foxsports which I don't entirely think is true. I find it odd that the report would blame "being too dark" as a defense without saying what things kids did that was so bad that justified a man hitting them. I think that report is bogus because it is too vague and doesn't give out details. "too dark" cannot be his best defense. If it is,then he is a bigger idiot than I thought.

I never said they are innocent. I have no idea. But it seems hypocritical for people to post "don't condemn kromer!" then they turn around and condemn the boys. The hypocrisy is disgusting. People can't have it both ways. a lot of people here are being sensible. But there are some that are defending kromer to death with little evidence and then condemning the kids on even less evidence.

I find it hilarious that people who are saying we shouldn't make Kromer guilty until he is proven guilty, but they are condemning this kids for underage drinking when there has not been a single report saying that they were drinking. "yup, they were 17 year old kids out past 11, they were probably drinking daddy's whiskey." Because you know, if they are teenagers and they are out and about at night, they have to be drinking. cause that is the only possibility. The kids probably paid off those cops so they didn't get in trouble for underage drinking. kids these days are loaded with cash. Maybe this isn't about beach chairs. Maybe kromer when out there to lecture these young people the dangers of alcohol and what it does to the brain. Then these little ***** got mad and went after him. Kids never listen

If he is claiming self defense, then yeah, he is agreeing he hit the kid. The question then becomes if he had reasonably believed he was in danger and had to defend himself. Reports say His son was also a witness. So there were more than just the victims that saw what happened. plenty of evidence and testimony to go around for them to work with. It might not be something a lawyer can "play." He probably admitted to the police he hit the kid before he was arrested. he can take it back i guess, but based on the report saying he is claiming self defense, Im pretty sure he hit him.

Pretty much. so far the only one that did hitting was kromer according to reports. if kromer was attacked/hit first, it hasn't been reported yet. I am expecting some type of suspension. But people talking about some type of nfl exile is way too extreme. lots of coaches have done worse and were able to come back

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Im not saying he should be blacklisted, but unless something really positive comes out for him (he doesn't get officially charged, innocence, etc) then even if the bills do nothing the NFL is probably going to suspend him multiple games. Players would get suspended over something like this, and coaches are supposed to be held to a higher standard. I personally hope he sticks this season. Bears oline got a lot better under him, and we need good coaching on the oline. But there are other things the bills will be considering. We signed incognito, who has had his own issues. We are trying to keep him on the straight and arrow. Keeping a coach or not disciplining him could send a wrong message to incognito that we don't care about accountability. Incognito, who is coached by kromer. Also take into effect we have several players on the team with character issues now. Keeping them all on the straight and arrow can be comprised if all kromer does is get a slap on the wrist. We don't have a lot of information yet on what Kromer got involved with, but a lot of this makes me skeptical. Lets say he got home, and there were people on his chairs. Now, if they were kids, I would have told them to take a hike. If they gave me attitude back, I would totally shoot back at them. I wouldnt hit them though unless they were full grown and hit me first. From all the reports Kromer hit the kid first. Now there is a report kromer is claiming it was too dark to see. Now, if it were me, if it was too dark to see I still wouldn't punch someone unless they punched me first. They could have a knife, a gun, 10 friends with them, god knows what. I don't know exactly what happened, but if I had to guess alcohol was involved and Kromer went way to far, and he will be suspended by the NFL. and if the NFL lets him off without any punishment, the NFLPA will be pissed because had he been a player he would be suspended for at least 4 games, and he should be punished harder because coaches are held to a higher standard. or supposed to be.