DanInUticaTampa

This was the issue. You were clearly just insulting pretty much everyone and saying we were all just as crazy as a trade that would never happen. Really? Trading for peyton manning is JUST as crazy as trading down in the draft? What is so crazy about trading down in the draft? Teams do it every year. Granted, there are a lot of crazy theories on this board, and they are usually beaten by a dead horse by a lot of people, but people in general just toss a lot of realistic ideas around here. Most of the posters here are suggesting things like drafting an OT at 9, drafting clausen at 9, trading down and grabbing a defensive guy, etc. Then there are the few that are saying things like trading up to get bradford, which most people here are against.

And why in the world would the colts make such a stupid move? The colts wouldn't give us manning if we gave them all of our picks with marshawn, parish, stroud, F Jackson, and evans. There are plenty more logical plans on here than that one. Ones that could actually work and actually have a chance of happening.

I was thinking that too, about the blocking. But I couldn't remember any of the other TE's blocking skills. But he is an ok catcher and an ok blocker. Nelson is a great reciever... but his blocking skills are lacking.

The only TE that is worth anything on our roster was Nelson, and he is still growing. Schouman is good to have. he didn't do that bad for us. Plus, if Edwards is the starter (big if), then we need schouman. He is like the only guy trent likes to throw to.

I wouldn't mind a 5th.

Campbell is a proven player?

Green should be a decent starter unless we find a surprise in the draft.

I wouldn't hate this, especially if all 4 OTs are gone.

The secret is revealed! Kiper is NeverGiveUp

WE wouldn't be nearly as picky if they had a winning season now and then.

Then Trade down and grab trent williams or dan williams and an extra high pick.

This is how I feel. The earliest I would take him is the 3rd, and even that has a lot of questionmarks. He probably won't last to our 2nd pick. There seems to be too many other players in this draft that have more upside than him and a lot less risk.

Before the trade, campbell was #1 and Grossman was #2.

With all the players crying this offseason (LT, Delomme, etc) I am surprise reid/mcnabb didn't shed a tear. It really looked like they were holding on to eachother really tight.

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We should really trade down 3-4 spots and grab trent williams or dan williams. Anyone at 9 probably won't be worth it to us. But I am sure it will mean a lot to other teams. Especially ones with an eye for spiller

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I never said that i knew of a profession where unproven workers get top mony. I don't think rookies should get those big contracts and I agree with the article. I was just expecting a football article. Not an economic suggestion. If the thread title said "Rookie salary cap is a good idea" i would think it was about rookie contracts, obliviously. But I was just expecting something else like rookies in the top half of the draft have just a good of chance as the bottom half, or something to that nature.

So.... what 2 do you think we have filled? If wood is ok for the season, we have at least 3 decent starters. Hangartner, wood, and levitre. And we are def going to be drafting our starting LT in the draft, just not sure which round. So that would give us 4 decent starters. And as for green, we could do worse. And if this draft turns out good for us, it wouldn't be too hard to upgrade RT and C. But right now, I think hangartner is a decent starter, especially compared to the starters we have had previous to him. And as for wood, i think at worst he is on PUP for part of the season. It MIGHT be worse than that, but I don't think so. Also, Nix has said he wants to grab a lot of depth for the oline in the draft. So a lot of othe picks will be used to get linemen, and one of them could always be a surprise. And with the levitre and wood picks, I think nix knows his linemen pretty well. I am thinking the line will be pretty stable next year. Might not be great, but I think it is being built to be good and will keep getting better.

It might be similar to this article: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...wage-structure/ Warning: It is an economic discussion about how there should be a rookie cap and that newly drafted players get paid too much. Basically.

I think this too A lot of people here say it all the time. things like "we have a marketing guy in charge of everything! we are a joke!" and so on....

Yeah, giving Whaley full credit for all those steeler picks is dishonest. It was a good front office all together that deserves that credit. Though I do think it is great that Whaley came from a stable front office and I hope he brings some of that success here to buffalo. And even more so, I hope when Nix retires in a few years, he is groomed to make a good GM and is ready by then.

Well, if injuries are a problem with him, he came to the right place! no one knows more about the IR than us. If he goes on IR, he will have a lot of others to keep him company.

Just because trent's public speaking skills are poor (him saying "obviously" a lot) doesn't mean he isn't smart. A lot of very smart people aren't good speakers. I didn't read a lot of the 2nd and 3rd pages, but what really bothered me was when he said "i don't care if a coach says something bad about me" or something like that. I forget the exact wording, but that is how it came out. I mean, if there is one person he should be listening and taking criticism from, it is from the coach. So that really stuck out to me. I don't know if that is how he meant it (probably not, but who knows) but him saying it like that did bother me. I think it is great that he says he will keep his confidence, but him saying it like that did bother me a bit.

lord knows we need depth.