DanInUticaTampa

good post. Let's hope they can take on the QB and tackles this offseason.

I'm thinkin that as well. Especially if the team is ridiculous and goes 0-10 or something.

You don't read the onion often, do you? They misquote people with the topic of murder from anyone who is a pop star or a political figure. It is like any other comic routine. Jay leno, conan obrien, david letterman all misquote people in their jokes.... I can't believe this is new to people.

NOT DISCUSSING IT? are you blind? Nothing has been discussed more. The fact the bills sucked, and are going to suck with no QB or line help has been discussed for YEARS. And in reguards to this season, it has been discussed every day for a half a year. Yeah, the team sucks. But I don't see why you make a new thread about it without saying anything we haven't heard a million times since april. If you are going to do the same song and dance that we need oline and a QB, can you at least say something origional or at least something that hasn't been said a million times? Because good grief, if this is all you are going to talk about until the 2011 draft, then you really have nothing of value to say other than a rehashment of things that have been beaten to death with a dead horse over a half a year. Please, try to get some origional material.

Seriously. It seems like every day there is a new thread talking about our crappy QBs and crappy tackles. We get it, they suck. Do we really need a new thread every day to inform us of this "new" development? And then people say "We know they suck, do we need a new thread talking about what we have talked about since the draft" then The people who create the threads over and over go "Go ahead! put your head in the sand and pretend they are good!" and it is like..... wtf.... no one is saying they are good. They are saying that you are beating a dead horse with this topic. You created a thread and said the exact same things others said back in april. All these angry people that keep creating these threads need a reality check. They are treating their opinions like it is some ground breaking stuff when it was already discussed nearly a half a year ago. Get with it people. I mean, how many threads has merle alone made on this topic?

Better than him than the rookie. I am pretty sure that is how it would turn out, even if it wasn't the best thing to do. Buddy/chan seem too old school to start a rookie QB.... and I am thinking, they would resign edwards just because he knows the system and players already, so it would just be easier for them. So I am thinking that is the most plausable scenario... the other scenario is, buddy and chan ruin our lives and sign edwards, and don't bring in a young QB.... if that happens, then I will bash my head against the wall.

I wouldn't mind taking a QB in round 1 if they TRULY feel that he is a franchise QB.... bradford looks like a real deal.... but I would rather take a QB in round 2 or 3. We should either re-sign edwards or sign a decent Vet to play while the rookie develops as well, at least in the first year. It is obvious we need a new QB.... it is going to suck if we pick one, wait four years, and find out he is a bust. I want them to take the time to actually find a good one. And of course we are going to need at least one starting tackle. Maybe more depending on how this season turns out. And of course, we need OLB help. And then the team needs depth in general at various positions. And it is crazy to think that if we plug in a good LT and a good QB into this offense, it will suddenly be fixed. The Skins have done just that (drafted an LT and Signed mcnabb) and they didn't look any better than us in their game. They didn't even have an offensive TD, that we DID have. People need to get a grip. This team wouldn't be playoff bound if we drafted a QB and LT in rounds one and two and signed a "better" rt via FA. This team is not 3 fixes away from being that good at all.

Their offense wasn't lousy last year. Last year they had a probowl guard in Faneca and a great rusher in Thomas jones... they aren't on the offense this year. Their new guard is garbage and was a liability through the whole game and shonne green did nothing to help the offense. This is a "new offense." An offense that couldn't score a TD even though the Ravens had injuries and were missing key players. Their QB who completed less than half his passes and threw for less than 75 yards. An offense that got just 6 first downs. And THIS offense is "lightyears" ahead of the bills offense? Give me a break. If anything, they are a couple sprints ahead if somehow Sanchez turns the corner or something. Not to mention how much this team is going to break down after this year when they lose all their players who signed one year contracts. Not to mention, LAST year when they were "one game away from the superbowl" and actually had a good offense, the bills beat them. The team that is "lightyears" behind them, beat them. What a fluke. The bills beat miami last year too. Another crazy fluke. It is probably a fluke that the bills were just one score behind the phins last week too. The bills suck. Their QB and tackles are the weak side of the offense. Most people know it. But spewing out all this nonesense that we are in so deep and all these other crappy teams are so much better than us is crazy. We aren't the only team with bad tackles and bad QBs. The cowboys basically lost their first game BECAUSE their tackle did one of the stupidest things ever seen in football. Last I checked, our tackles were bad, but they didn't do anything THAT stupid (choking someone that created a penalty that killed the winning TD). The bills suck, we know it. But stop saying we are the only team with problems and every other team is "just amazing as hell" BS. The bills aren't the only NFL team right now that makes me cringe to watch.

Of course it is sarcasm....

Oh , we are not brilliant. We suck. But if you think the jests crappy offense is any better than our crappy offense, then you are blind as hell. The biggest weakness right now on the Colts is they have a crappy oline... same with cowboys. Man, they are so dumb not to address the oline. Just as dumb as us. I am not making excuses for the bills, they have a crappy QB and crappy tackles. But you jerking off to the jests is just ridiculous. Just because they screamed the loudest... but guess what, jests aren't going to be good this year and the only reason they won't be picking first overall next year is because their defense is amazing. Their offense still sucks.

Oh yeah, the Jests sure know how to work free agency by dumping their leading rusher and starting 2 guys that were nowhere near as good. How many fumbles did shonne green have? How messed up was the Jests oline without faneca? Did you even watch the jests offense play? They were horrid. There is probably a 50/50 chance the jests will win less games than us, if that is how their offense is going to look the rest of the season. And yeah, sanchez looks like such a stud, throwing to his recievers against 2nd string DBs... and getting less than 100 yards passing. MAN! the jests are just golden and are set at QB for the next 10 years!

I want the pats* to win, just because the Jests have been so mouthy. 2 straight, early losses would really shut their mouths up. But I hope they really rough eachother up. I am not praying for injuries, because that might be taking it too far (though I wouldn't be upset if it happened). But roughing eachother enough so they are aching would be nice.

I was wanting to keep all three of them. But with bell emerging during preseason, I wouldn't be opposed to trading lynch and moving bell up from PS.

Great, another QB sucks thread. If only we did get mcnabb and shanny, we would have won this past game. Even though trent/gailey threw one TD more than mcnabb/shanny this past weekend. OH! Let's face it, this team is going to be pretty doom and mediocre this year. If you think that is all trent's fault, you are just blind. There are so many things about our offense that sucks you cannot put the blame on edwards and the oline alone. We have mediocre/developing recievers and a very weak TE group. Not to mention, the oline (besides green) played very well against a VERY tough miami Dline. I was expecting much worse from Bell.

This.

Let me tell ya, if this front office starts trading our 1st rounders to move up to the 4th round, I will be the first to call Nix to be fired. If the front office makes bad moves in round 1 and then "fixes" it by scalping them for low draft picks, that is going to be the biggest signal of failure. I would rather have a front office that drafts better than one that drafts bad and tries to grab low end picks to make up for their bad drafting. I know the bills haven't been the best when it comes to the first round (whitner, maybin), but there is hope (Mckelvin, Wood, maybe Spillar). This Nix/Whaley front office looks like it can draft better. You go ahead with your dream. Hope that this team can turn crap into "meh" picks. I am going to push for them to actually draft better than salvaging from making too many mistakes. This front office needs to be held to a higher standard than being the league recyling bin. It is time for them to build a football team.

And yes, I get your point, but your point means so little. There is a bigger point, and the bigger point is, they busted on a 1st round pick. That trumps everything. Salvaging a pick does not make up for it. The bills have traded plenty of players for picks. If you don't know that, then you just don't pay attention to this team. The bills got a steal trading peters to the eagles for a first round, where he isn't working out. The bills traded mcgahee for two mid round picks. There are so many problems with the bills, i can't believe that something THIS meaningless is the thing you are crying about.

I doubt it. He seemed servicable when he was in oakland, but he was only a starter for one year I believe and was just a backup beofre that. And he looked bad in preseason as well. I don't see him improving much, if at all. The only hope I have is miami as a great D line... so he might look better at teams with a weaker line... but this guy is bad and it is going to suck see him play the phins again and the jests twice.

But they didn't get a 4th for him. They moved up 2 spots, and got 4 years of BAD service. He didn't do well for them at all. So I don't know what you are talking about. The pats* basically gave a 1st round pick to move up 2 spots. If you think that is good, then your math is just way off. In your opinion, the bills can totally bust on maybin and use him to move up two spots in the draft and look like geniuses. If that happens, they will look like idiots. Idiots that made a huge mistake that a lot of people saw coming.

Don't worry. If you keep your hopes up, the bills will trade maybin in 4 years and move from the 6th round to the 4th round. It will be a genius move. Your point is terrible that you think they are getting value for maroney. They got 4 years of BAD service from the guy, and just cut their losses. There is no genius move there. If you have a bust of a 1st round pick, then guess what, that is dumb. The pats* ridding him just proves that they made a mistake in drafting him. It is insane that people think that the pats* screwing up a first round pick, and cushining the blow by moving up 2 spots to the 4th round is anything better than a mistake. That is my point. YOu thinking that salvaging a bust makes up for busting on a 1st round pick. If you pick a bust in the 1st round, there is no way to make up for it. This whole maroney thing shows the pats* made a mistake when they drafted him. Simple as that. Praise them all you want for salvaging a bust. That must mean the bills are geniuses for getting a 3rd round for mcgahee a few years back. I can't believe the bills had such a genius front office back then with marv. Just genius. The bills were even better then that pats*. We actually got a whole 3rd rounder for a 1st round rb and all the Pats* got was to move up a couple spots into the 4th.... man, the pats* could learn from marv!

Yeah, the pats* move up two spots in the draft, and all it cost them was a first round pick from 2006.... so yeah, awesome for the pats* for having a first round BUST! People here are saying the bills would suck if they traded marshawn for a 2nd or 3rd rounder because lynch is actually a 1st rounder, so we wouldn't get good value for him. And here, the pats* trade a 1st round pick, and they get... NOTHING! They just move a couple of spots up at a low draft pick. Let's all hear it for the pats* They turned a 1st round pick and a 6th round pick into a 4th! if our front office did that (and lord knows we are dumb enough), bills fans would be livid. So yeah, the pats* are geniuses for grabbing a 1st round bust. They are just geniuses and the bills are dumb. Maybe in 4 years the bills can trade maybin to move from the 6th to the 4th round and be praised as geniuses.

According to Espn rankings, we moved from 31st to 30th! We are movin up in this world bitches! http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings

I pretty much agree with everything here. RT and QB positions are going to need an upgrade, and we definently need line depth. And depending on how bell turns out, we will probably need an LT as well. I think Bell showed enough improvement in this last game that there is a chance by the end of the season, he will be a solid LT. But it is way too soon to say we don't need a starting LT. RT though.... that is an obvious, must have, need.

I agree they still looked good without him, since they had so many good players on D anyway. But this is a huge blow for them.

Saying those are the 2 biggest needs is pretty easy to argue. This team had a very high need for NT, OLB, DE, run defense, and playmakers on offense. Face it, this team had so many desperate needs, it is near impossible to pinpoint which needs are the biggest. We pretty much needed a new roster. So saying nix sucks because of two positions is crazy. Nix would be just as bad now if he got a QB and T in the first two rounds and got no NT and left the run D to suck things up like last year, and had no playmakers on offense. No matter what, there were going to be big needs that were going to be missed. Easly looked good until he went down in camp.... but the bills did bring in TO while lee had his big contract. WR doesn't seem that important as other positions, especially with nelson playing well and parish showing some life. And our TE nelson should help as a reciever as well, when he returns. If nelson develops more, and easly gets better, the WR group should be fine for the future. We are going to need a new QB.