DanInUticaTampa

Agreed. Though I would hope for more than a third... maybe a third in this draft and a 4th in 2012 draft. 3rd for a franchise RB seems too small. And the packers are a SB contender.... they are going to need a better RB to get there.

let's hope we never have a decade like that again. Way too many mistakes. That ngagta one especially.

let's hope not.

It would be interesting to see what we could get for him. With marshall getting 2 2nd rounders, we know that is out of the question. He would be better used on another team. He has talents that aren't being used here, and probably never will be used. So it would probably work in our favor to get something for him. I don't see a trade happening though.

That would be a positive. We need draft picks.

Yeah, january of 2010. He wasn't in charge of the 2009 draft when maybin was picked.... what are you talking about? Nix was only GM for 1 offseason....

Exactly. Evans would be a VERY good #2 with a decent QB and a true #1 to compliment him. But the WRs we have are mediocre at best. And the only reason they are mediocre is because QB and oline look so much worse than them. The offense is bad all around.

But nix didn't pick maybin.... he wasn't GM for that draft....

Lee evans is basically our only receiver.... that is dumb to cut him. Nix saw this team play last year, so I doubt his plan was to watch them play again to see how they play. He knew which players sucked. Should have signed a few more decent free agents. Though that might have been gailey's plan... he is going to be demanding a lot from the front office this offseason. right now, the lockout in 2011 don't look so bad.

Not even getting three 1st round picks in the next draft can fix this team. No QB, messed up oline, mediocre recievers, and no pass rush. Hope we can trade for lynch. We need draft picks more than we need him at this point.

See, you are lying again. Maybe that is why I am so sensitive is because you are making stuff up about me. I haven't dismissed valid concerns. I have said Green is a terrible RT and that is all on Nix, and plenty other things. I don't know why you are saying lies. If you want your cred, then stop putting words in people's mouth. You keep saying that I am ingoring buddy's mistakes, and you are flat out making that up. I have said numerous times to you (including this post) that buddy obviously has made mistakes... if me saying buddy has made mistakes is "loving every move that buddy makes," then you are living in pretend town... you keep saying you are "just tellin the truth" but you are filled with lies. Answer me this one question: How am I loving every move that buddy makes when I have countless times complained about his handleing of: Cornell Green, lack of OLBs, Schobol, lynch, and then some. tell me. HOW is that "loving" every move that buddy makes? You are the one that accused me of that, and it isn't true. you made it up.

Yeah, me saying that the green signing is garbage is "praising every move buddy makes" This is why your posts have no cred. You throw around lies and accusations saying that I praise every move buddy makes? I have dissed plenty of moves buddy has made, especially the Green signing. If you are going to accuse me of something, can you at least say something that is actually true? If you do that, then I will spell your handle right in the future. But until then, try to actually be honest and not throw around lies like me saying buddy makes all good decisions. That is a lie, and I have plenty of posts to back that up. You seem to have this black/white mentality.... if you don't hate buddy, then that must mean you LOVE buddy. yeah, sure dude. You won't find the gray area with that kind of blindness.

Try telling that to teams like the Falcons, Texans, and Saints. They took plenty of baby steps to get to the respectable stage. So I don't know what you are talking about. Unless you are talking about miami that went from worst in the nfl to divsion champ to not getting in the playoffs....

Which would have been the Marv Levy approach to being the GM. build the o-line with over-rated players with big contracts (Dockery, walker, even have a probowl LT!) and a young QB prospect that SO many people believe will be a solid starter in the nfl....... we sucked back then when we had a pro bowl LT and a young QB, and we still suck. If we are going to pick a QB and LT, let's actually pick ones that are good for once instead of jumping the gun just to "fill a need." We were doomed one way or another this year. It is nice that there are people like Meryle who have so much hope for this team that they think this team would actually be GOOD if we drafted buluga/clausen.... but this team would still be "doomed", and we probably would have been worse in the miami game actually. And I think that it is borderline insulting that Meryle keeps saying we are "putting our heads in the sand" just because we don't agree with him. We know the team sucks, we know QB and tackle needs an upgrade... how is that putting our heads in the sand? Seriously. Is he even reading what people are saying? There are a million threads in the past week alone talking about how green and trent both suck. if that is putting the head in the sand, then that is just silly talk. And then he goes on "we can either do nothing and accept failure, or we can TALK about it and discuss how this team sucks...." wtf.... that is like my wife coming over to me and saying "taxes are too high. Let's sit here and TALK about taxes being to high with eachother and that will fix the problem.." hahaha, what the hell. Where is the logic in that if we TALK about green and trent sucking that they will all of a sudden not be problems anymore? It is like that scam artist that teaches classes on how to "wish" for checks to come in the mail, and they start coming on their own. It is crazy. What kind of voodoo is that? man, "stick your head in the sand in pretend land or talk about trent and green sucking." Yeah meryle, you are the first one to create threads on these two being complete garbage. I don't know why anyone didn't think of it before you brought it up

scary stuff. truth is stranger than fiction.

It always amazed me how much the skins resembled us over the years. And I too was jealous with all the moves they made.... and I guess I still am. Though I wasn't too big a fan of Bruce Allen after seeing him in Tampa Bay... sure he helped build a super bowl team... but he was never really able to get a franchise QB.... which really bothered me since we haven't had a real franchise QB in so long, that is what I was craving. The main thing I am jealous of (after week 1) is trent williams. The guy is making an instant impact at LT.... if we were going to take an LT in round 1, THAT is the type I would want. Not buluga. Mcnabb did look rusty, but i did want him... though I want him less now. But I would love to have trent williams over spiller. Too bad he didn't fall to us.

That would be amazing... I am not sure what the chances are, but yeah.... Nix seems to understand QBs pretty well... he knew Bradford was probably the only QB talent that wasn't a big project, and it looks like that is true. Tebow, Clausen, and mccoy seem like they are going to take awhile to develop, if at all. And he was on a team that grabbed both brees and rivers... so I am hoping that when HE picks a QB that he projects as a starter, it will be a good one.

same. It is sad that our RT position is as bad as it is. And I was someone that was ok with the green signing. I wasn't a big fan, but I sure didn't bash it.

Guys, who are the pundits saying we should draft? because if we don't listen to them, we are doooooooomed!

But you said that the OL and QB positions are what would drag us down this year, implying that if we "fixed" them this year, we wouldn't be doomed this year. It didn't matter if we drafted all QB and linemen, this team was doomed either way this year. And all those pundits that had Clausen going 1st round?!?! HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Do you know that these are the same pundits that were picking Edwards to go in the 1st round?!?!? hahahahahaha, MAN! that worked out so well for us.... picking a player that PUNDITS thought should go in the 1st round and we picked him in the third. We realllly got a good deal on that one! You are SO right. We should listen to these pundits more often. maybe we can draft another edwards.... hahahahahahahahahaha. man you are a trip and a half with this nonesense. You are right. the pundits know more than all the teams that passed on clausen. man, you are just crazy. Holgrem, who is supposed to be great with QBs, passed on claussen twice! But forget that, the pundits know more than holgrem. The pundits have coached more QBs than he has... hahahahaha, pundits..... yeah, lets listen to those idiots

I'd take Matt Hasselbeck as a stop gap and take a rookie. With Nix being part of a team that drafted Brees AND rivers, I have good hope that he will not make a JP losan type error and will at least get us a QB of Flacco type talent. I still think the most likely scenario is they sign edwards and draft a rookie, and their reasoning will be "he already knows the system, blah blah blah." It isn't what I want, but I just feel that this is the type of organization that would do that. The only saving grace is, edwards might just choose to retire. He never seemed like he really wanted to be a football player long term.

I didn't call him a bust. I said he wouldn't have given us any help THIS year. Isn't THIS year the year you are talking about or did you already forget what you said in your first post? And WHO slated clausen to go 1st? because if teams actually slated him to go first, then they would have picked him in the 1st round. If you are talking about the ESPN folks slating clausen to go first, then that is silly that you want ESPN to run a football team.

The thing about buluga is, he isn't even starting at RT on a packers oline that isn't that good to begin with. Chances are he would probably be just as bad as Green, but would have cost us a first rounder.... so people that are screaming we should have drafted buluga are crazy. But I agree with the reasoning that troup might have been available in the 3rd. It is hard to tell, but i agree it is very possible.

You don't know what you are talking about. this team sucks and they wouldn't beat a pop warner football. It doesn't matter that the bills beat the jests last year, the bills just suck suck suck. Sanchez and Rex Ryan are god like and Edwards/ Chan are nothing but slaves that shine their shoes. This team didn't need a nose tackle. now that we have a nose tackle, we suck. Another decade of fail. If we drafted a QB and LT, this team would be competing for a playoff spot and we would be really good. /Merle Haggard