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If it wasn't for Kyle Williams, and in the instance of the NFC Championship game, it really was just one player who affected the outcome, the 49ers would have been in the super bowl with a qb who is nowhere near the level of Manning Brady or Brees. The 49ers would likely have beat the Pats also, for they are a balanced team with a ferocious defense. The Bills are simply not going to do any deal for a 1st round qb, whether you want it to happen or not. Nix, Gailey, and Whaley are going to ride with Fitzpatrick to glory or to the point where theyre fired. I, for one, am glad that they are trying to build a balanced team that is made for the playoffs, not just an aerial attack with a soft defense. (Packers, Saints, Pats)

Probably not the only thing that escapes you

Haha. There's alot of people on this board that would not agree with that. This is really the one topic that burns me up more than anything. Say Tom Brady is drafted by the Buffalo Bills in 00' or whenever he was. The Bills at that time were unknowingly about to plunge into over a decade of futility. Tom Brady would not be in the league most likely if that scenario had played out. The Bills would have destroyed him like Trent, J.P. Rob Johnson, etc. Are there times when a player just isn't very good? Yes! But a player put into the wrong situation will look like garbage. I feel like our front office and coaches could have almost f***** up Peyton Manning we were that bad. I believe we are finally, finally on the right track as a franchise. It's painful to wait but I think we've turned a corner for real this time. But who's to say that Ryan Fitz can't lead this Bills offense to the top of the league. And people need to stop with this weak arm nonsense. Ok he's not John Elway or Favre but the guy can make every necessary throw to play in the NFL. His deep ball needs work but I feel that comes with timing and confidence with his receivers. I'll say this now and I'll say it again. Front office and coaches are more important than players. Bellichek could make anyone look good - he's that great of a coach (albeit and absolute d*ck sore loser baby) Great coaches create great players and then those players return the favor by developing mentally and physically into stars, making the coach look great. But people, it starts with the coach. Chan is pretty darn good, at least offensively. With some more pieces, Ryan Fitzpatrick could be the next household name.

I feel like it's the same in the NHL and the NBA to some extent. They want more exciting regular season games so they make the defending rules more strict but then swallow the whistles during the playoffs. Pretty frustrating trying to build a team when that happens but that encourages building a balanced team. I'll always remember the high flying Colts teams that were mugged out of the playoffs by New England and someone else in consecutive years and the NFL finally realized how much the refs stopped calling PI and Illegal Contact in the playoffs. Still have to build for balance. That's why San Fran and New York Giants look really good right now. Allows regular season AND post season success. As all Sabres fans know, it's dumb to create an awesomely skilled team that can fly around the ice for 82 games and then get mugged out of the playoffs bc nothing is called.

What I respectfully disagree with about your line of thinking and many others is that it seems as though you guys act like HOF Tom Brady popped out of a hole in the ground one day. He was DEVELOPED by a genius Coach and great overall coaching staff. Everyone talks like Rodgers is the 2nd coming. He looked ordinary at best yesterday. Yes, I concede that Tom Brady is now a HOF caliber QB, but there are only a few QB's in history that were going to be in the HOF no question starting day 1. Peyton comes to mind. But to act as if Fitz is some sort of liability and has no shot to improve is ignorant thinking. I guarantee you if our front office and coaching staffs come together and really get their act right and put a deep roster on the field, Fitz will look like a (gulp) Pro Bowler. We all act like everyone in the league has the capacity to improve except our own players. It's frustrating, but understandable given how messed up of a franchise we have been the last 12 years. HOF QB's arent in the draft to just pick up and say, "Oh well now we have the HOF QB question taken care of, lets move on." No, they are developed and put in the right place at the right time with the right coaching staff and players around them. Look for Fitz to have another improved year next year. A solid offseason and it may be a great year.

One of the frustrating things about people dogging Fitz is they forget QB's who took longer to develop into great ones. Just because Cincy let him go and he didn't work out in St Louis doesn't = Ryan Fitzpatrick is not good. It's not so black and white and fans forget that all the time. Everyone clamors for the Bills front office to find our Brady or Rodgers. Do you people not understand that the situation a player is thrown into usually outweighs their talent? If Brady is taken by anyone but the Pats coached by Belicheck I fully believe he doesn't last more than a few years in the league. Say Rodgers gets taken by us or by some other backward franchise, I guarantee he is nothing special. Coaches/franchise situations/front office trumps an individual player's talent. If Trent or J.P. were taken by a franchise who was not rebuilding and had things in order, I believe they had a chance to be successful. I honestly believe this. The situations our QB's have been in post Kelly have been impossible for them to succeed in, just impossible. Ryan Fitzpatrick is right now, middle of the pack QB in the NFL. I think his talent, while not elite 1st round measurables, could allow him to become the 5th or 6th best QB in the NFL IF the Buffalo Bills continue to turn this roster around, which I believe Nix, Whaley, and Gailey are doing. All of you people who believe that finding a "franchise" QB and ditching Ryan are dead wrong. Look at Drew Brees (I know this is not a typical situation) What was it, 28 starts or 30ish starts before he started to look like the man? Ryans around that # and it finally looks like he will be in a SITUATION in Buffalo where a QB even has the chance to succeed. Maybe I'll look like an idiot this time next year for vouching for Ryan Fitzpatrick, but if we have a great offseason, which I think we will, I truly believe he will have an awesome year in 2012 and be unanimously in the top 10 at his position.

Buddy should throw in a complimentary limo w driver for Jackson then.

Would the 49ers or Dolphins be able to take Manning's salary without a ton of moves?

I believe the correct name for rb's is "runners" lol

That's essentially what a message board is for. Almost all of the threads on this forum are this way.

Your "reality" is clearly warped. Like another poster said, anyone criticizing Dareus doesn't understand football very well.

Dorkington - I agree with your comment here, but my question is, do we just have YOUNG and INEXPERIENCED depth, or is it really BAD? I feel like we just need more time. Even backups need time to develop right? I think our 22 starters are very competitive if healthy, maybe an upgrade or two at cb and lb, maybe wr, but why are we as fans expecting our backups and third stringers to be good when alot of them are 1st-3rd or 4th yr players. Aren't they allowed to make progress and develop into better players like we allow for starters on NFL teams?

A really agree with needing to become not only better talent evaluators, but better DEVELOPERS. Some of you seem to think that just because a player wasn't 1st round that their talent level is not close to the players selected in the actual 1st round. 224 players are undrafted every year and countless others are signed as UDA's. 1st rounder players consist of only 14% of an entire draft! You cannot have an entire team of 1st round players and many of the posters on this board seem to think that is what is needed at every position. Someone drafted in the 5th may have the same talent as someone in the 1st but dropped due to countless reasons. I think we all need to agree that anyone drafted onto an NFL team has a legitimate chance at becoming a good to great NFL starter. Is there more high level talent in the 1st round? Yes. But is that where you build your team. No. So many of today's stars at all positions were not 1st rounders or 2nd or 3rd etc. It's about having a scheme, having good coaches and talent evaluators at the top and then developing players into stars. Obv we can't say at this point whether or not Moats will be amazing. But we certainly can't write it off.

Great post. People act like all of a sudden this team sucks. They ARE a solid team. The O-line is developing - just no depth like you said, or more the fact that the depth chart is unexperienced on the whole. A good draft and a smart, hopefully aggressive free agency will put the Bills up into the top 3 in the AFC in my opinion. But can we find guys who don't get injured constantly? Also, hopefully we lock up the rest of our trio on offense. Freddy J and Stevie.

The Bills is not going to made the playoffs if the Bills continue to get injured. We was a good story early in this year, but us Bills fan must accept the fact we's not going to make this playoff. Are you trying to make fun of the OP's grammar? Because technically it was correct. Just saying.

He's referring to the fact that the Bills, who have had a decade of bad seasons and have been in position to get a player like Luck during those years will not be in such position this spring, while a perennial contender like the Colts with one of the best qb's ever the last decade have one terrible year and that is the year a player with Luck's talents is available. His anger surely stems from those turn of events.

Definitely an extreme overreaction. Yes they have issues. But c'mon man you're going to say MLB is a problem area for us at the moment? Barnett has been awesome. You can't just say everything is crap. Definitely some crap but not everything. You don't win 5 games through halfway and have NOTHING at all to work with. Constant turnover is not the answer. Getting rid of Chan is not the answer. Its not the fact that we have alot of injuries - every team does, it's just that we don't have good depth as a football team yet. Injuries and lack of depth are killing the teams' performance and confidence each week. I understand your frustration. I am as well. But we have some solid pieces and need to keep building.

Agreed. I think we all know that maybe the Bills aren't as far along as we'd like but with alot of Bills fans its either "They're the best!" or "We suck! Worst team ever!" I'm embarrassed for alot of the fans that post on this website. Grow up. It's not all good. I think we as Bills fans are so used to being an honestly terrible team the last 10 years that having one or two bad games triggers the same feelings of those entire seasons. We've already had some great times this season. I'm sure there will be more. Maybe the Bills pass their next litmus test game. Maybe they don't. But I think we finally are on the right track which is the first step in the right direction. *If our players were as big a group of babies as the majority of fans on this sight we'd be 0-16 every year. Grow up and have some pride for the players you're supposed to root for.

Been waiting to hear those words for 8 years since we had Adams/Williams. This tandem could be wayyy better than them too. There's no coincidence that all great teams seem to have a solid tandem at those positions. Sets up the rest of your D

Really a good idea but I feel like potential owners and investors will just be more concerned about the ability to make $ with a minor league and bag it to not lose any.

How True

I had a heated argument with my friend who is a packers fan about 2 years ago and I adamantly backed Fitz and said if he ever got a solid opportunity with us he could develop into a special qb and player. He basically laughed and shut me down. I also said when Fred was in NFL Europe that he was gonna be a Superstar for us. So basically....I'm Nostradamus

Just fyi the NHL hockey season is 82 games long, not 8. You are being annoyingly sour. Get some perspective man

Fitz has got to miss long on those!! If he plays for a miss over the top Stevie gets at least 1 of those! So tough to watch those throws. And for everyone saying it was Fitz with a weak arm thats unreal. Fitz can make every throw he just tried to guide those two in there. It was a touch issue not strength.

Im not saying it was or wasn't a bad call but Stevie was NOT well covered. It was just a severely underthrown football. The miss on a fade or fly always has to be long. Two tough throws. I would say the call was fine because Stevie beat his coverage clean. Just underthrown.