Zulu Cthulhu

After the play, he reached out and tapped the defensive player on the chin - 15 yard taunting penalty. That's why he got reamed by Singletary

Two future starting QBs? In Orlovski and Stanton? There goes your credibility as far as QBs go. The only reason either one of these stiffs are even going to get a chance to play is because they happen to be in Detroit.

Fred Jackson + Marshawn combined for over 100 yards.

I heard TD has a lucrative partnership with Mort sand-bagging the bills for a living.

I could hear the gurgling sounds from here....CT is at least 250 miles away. Hooray! for the mediocre JETS!

In other news, I just shaved my head and smoked the clippings and I agree with crayons

I remember the discussion on this board months ago about that infamous picture. At the time I really didn't think it suggested all that much, but was it taken at a known gay establishment? The NFL is notoriously homophobic, I can't help but wonder, if VY does happen to be, if that could be a factor in all this.

Really, you have personally had "PLENTY" of people thrown out over the years? You must be a ball to sit with at games. I defend many people I don't necessarily agree with, in fact I do it for a living. I also am not on any quest to be "right" about anything -- my main point is your and your ilk's attitude about so-called unruly fans is, in my opinion, just as offensive to me as their behaviour is to you. Just an opinion. I am not jumping to any conclusions, you all have your own reasons for finding this, that, or the other thing done by your fellow fans unacceptable. You can all find me in my seats, listed below in my sig as they have been for a while, and observe my behaviour if you like, and report your conclusions afterwards. I am curious to know if I comply to your own behavioural standards.

Yeah, and that's your problem right there. That you can't believe there are dumb, rude, selfish people at a football game, for goodness' sake. That's naive. That's annoying. They are around at football games; they're in and around RWS and all other types of public events. That you don't get it, or don't choose to utilize those people placed at the game to deal with these folk is baffling to me. Perhaps a mandatory three-week etiquette class for all prospective ticket buyers?

Ok let me screw my thinking-head on real tight and give it a try: I didn't change my stance - I am aware of, and I also adhere to - the official conduct policy. My reply was pointing out to you that there exists a sizable minority of fans that simply do not care about the official conduct standards, or yours or mine or anyone's for that matter. They are simply A-holes. But, according to some, apparently so am I. You and your like-minded are perfectly within your rights to voice your outrage and disgust at the stander-uppers, the drunks, the bullies, the horny drugged-up twenty-something girls, the people with shouting voices who cheer too loud and hurt your pretty little ears, all of them. I am also within my right to call you all oversensitive, naive, high-minded and ridiculous. Your attitude offends me just as much as the former's behaviour does. Perhaps Buffalo pro football really isn't your bag. Might I suggest the opera, or a ballet? Perhaps a bawdy vaudeville show would be more agreeable to you? I don't know really, we all have differing tastes. Oh wait, that was my point from the start.

Here here, mcjeff. I appreciate it.

Oh, I know what you're thinking: "But Mr. U, fat people can't help that they're fat, its glandular. Stander-uppers can help it, all they have to do is park their butts in their seats for most of the game." Ah, but I disagree. I don't think that fat is gland-fat. I think its infrequently-mentioned cousin: lazy-fat. I think those obese folk, who impede my enjoyment ever so, can also help it. Don't eat red meat or donuts. Get in the pool or on a treadmill. When you reach my pre-decided target weight, the gates of RWS will swing open for you. Until then, stay away! You're impeding my enjoyment!

Again, not defending that kind of behaviour. In fact, you are right. Standing all game does impede my enjoyment. You know what else "impedes my enjoyment" at the games? Fat people. Way too may overweight and obese people at Bills games. That is impeding my enjoyment. When one is sitting next to me, their wide ass doesn't give me enough room to be comfortable in my paid-for $70 seat, dammit. When a group of them is walking shoulder to shoulder down the concourse, like a fleet of ocean liners, I have to dart to the side and hug the wall just to avoid getting trampled by them. That impedes my enjoyment. When one is sitting a few rows down from me and bends over whilst also wearing tight shorts and a smaller shirt, I throw up a little in my mouth. That impedes my enjoyment as well. So I guess the solution is to ban fatties. I'm all for it.

No BC is correct, not BU. I never advocated that line either, read carefully. Actually I specifically stated that I do not stand the entire time at the game, and I never have.

25. 25 out of 70,000 were cited for various offenses. That'll be 0.035% Three hundredths of one percent. Noted at the end of an article by a Buffalo News hack because his editor told him he had to mention it. I am appalled you're right this has gotten out of control.

And all of you complainers, even the wise, old ones, believe that every fan that attends any given Bills game reads/cares about the conduct policy? Not even close; and that's exactly the reason why we have the guys and gals in the bright ugly windbreakers stationed all throughout RWS. You can spit in any direction from your seat and hit two or three of them. Unless you are absolutely completely sheltered and naive, you know that football games, and the world in general, are filled with alcoholics and just plain mean and inconsiderate folk. I am not and have never defended their behaviour. I'm just of the opinion that those of you complaining the loudest are just as bad, maybe worse. I suppose you don't even know it. Their are tools available to you at the stadium - ushers, law enforcement - if you witness someone breaking the conduct policy. On the other hand, if you are just so appalled at some of the behaviour you witness at a Bills game that you get pissing mad and your pretty little eyes start to burn, get over yourself. Remember that people from all walks of life come and support this team, and they all have different ideas of what "fun" is.

It shouldn't have to get to the to the point of involving the ushers? Isn't that why they are there in the first place? Why exactly shouldn't it? Because 70,000 other people should implicitly know that you are annoyed with their conduct, obnoxious though it may be? Well, what should be the standard mode of celebration and enthusiasm at a football game then? Could you publish here for me or send me a hard copy to pin to my forehead so others I encounter may read? Really, so I am a "dick" and a "tool" for simply giving a set of options for you all who just can't stand the inconvenience? Well, let me suggest a label for you complaining, "mature" name-callers: Whiners

What's your guess? I'll be honest if you get it correct.

I'm not quite sure what mentality you speak of. I personally don't stand all game at the stadium or get blackout drunk anywhere, ever. I am though very enthusiastic at home games, my voice is always gone the next day, as it is today. I do get annoyed at all the hemming and hawwing about the bad conduct, I personally have witnessed very little of it over the years at RWS. I also don't think age is synonymous with wisdom, or maturity.

Really, a tool huh? For explaining my position and giving my opinion of what you should do if the obnoxious drunks are bothering you at games? Well, my obviously wiser, older fellow poster, thank you giving me something to look forward to. Apparently, when I reach your ripe old age, I'll be so much more mature and careful with my words, but still be able to name-call and insult "tool"

If someone politely asked me to sit, especially so a kid or elderly person could see, I personally would do it. I don't stand the entire game. If someone flips you off if you ask them to sit or they're just too drunk to comprehend your request, you have these options, like I said above: 1. suck it up, 2. stand yourself, 3. stay home, 4. tell an usher - that's their job and that's why they are there. Utilize them. Now, if I'm standing and some jobber comes up to me with some uppity sense of entitlement (I have a sneaking suspicion some of you may be guilty of this) just because he ALSO paid 70 bucks for a ticket, I may not be so quick to comply, especially if he/she seems to be of average age, have two perfectly good legs, and is above 5'5".

Sure Joe I'd be happy to answer your queries: Yes I was at the game yesterday. Yes I have been a season ticket holder for the past 3 seasons - I've gone to every game. Prior to that I lived in Boston for four years in college. Prior to that I went on average to 4-5 games a season with my father for as far back as I can remember. Anything else?

Oh man call the waaaah-bulance. Move to Atlanta or Carolina with the rest of the wine and cheese crowd if you want dead silence and a$$es glued to the seats the entire game so YOU can have the experience you expect. Barring that, either stay home and watch the game on TV or be big boys and girls and direct your complaints to the ushers.

Haha now they're DOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

I really don't understand how so many haters emerged in the three years since I started reading this board; It is kind of depressing how negative posts get constantly shoved up to the front page by the same 48 trollers sitting in their mom's basement crucifying the Bills front office every chance they get. I really don't get it, but maybe I'm just not ignorant and inexperienced enough...injuries happen, pro football is a business (that's what the "pro" is for by the way). Listen I love 99% of you guys, especially eBall, and I know this is the place for criticism, but can you all at least get somewhat educated before sending your bong-hit saturated thoughts out to cyberspace for us all to squint at? Before you criticize: yes I've played plenty of football at the collegiate level, and yes, I do write for a living.