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I think this was economics. The FO presupposed, incorrectly IMHO, the discrepancy for value in 21 and the value in 28 was minimal. So why pay more? Same with 3rd and 4th round pics.

I think Peters actually has more guaranteed money.

Yeah, I'm also guessing the "flexibility" in 1(#28),4 and 6(2010) is that they didn't want to pay picks 1(#21),3 this year. Hence the deft dealings of the FO. Good Lord. Can we play in the WAC? C

John I respect your viewpoint. I think we lost out on this deal and we could have had more. That and that franchise LTs don't grow on trees. The truth of the matter is that we lucked out blind when we got him as a FA. I just don't think lightning is gonna strike twice. To compound matters we don't have an especially mobile QB. We should have kept him or paid him - if we were only gonna get this much for him. The option c in the above scenario is that JP becomes a perennial Pro Bowler playing for a better team. That and that our #28 pick sucks rocks. C

All this talk about other franchises and how they've fared in spite of doom & gloom predictions and how they overcame loss of talent and how they replenished with humble picks that over-excelled is heartwarming. But for a minute think about our present talent, our present FO and our present coach. Also think about John Guy picking FAs. Now also taking into account the fact we haven't been in the playoffs in 10 years. C'mon now. Our FO doesn't have anyone close to a Polian. Our coaching doesn't have anyone remotely resembling a Parcells. Or even Sparano or Reid. And our QB is no where near a Peyton or anyone even half that good. I do like the Nix addition. BUt even he can only do so much. I've seen the evidence thus far. I think the odds are better than fifty-fifty that we're on the Jauron death watch and that our QB will be Fitzpatrick around game 7 or 8 if not earlier. Sure, Peters sucked last year. I'm not even sure if I'm upset at him leaving. But we had all the cards. To give him up for an almost 2nd rounder and an almost 5th, is just dumb ass. And to not have someone who can do a better than adequate job is just poor planning. I would have traded him for the 21st and the 3rd pick nothing less. Then if he wanted to sit, let him sit. Then when he comes back, don't play him until he proves himself committed to the program. See how he gets picked for a Pro Bowl with less than 6 games for a season. I think the scout guy is right except for maybe for the part where Edwards doesn't feel the rush. I think he feels the rush alright, he just doesn't know what to do with the ball once he knows when the rush is coming. Except maybe dump it off. Watch this soap opera unfold once Owens figures out he isn't catching anywhere the # of balls coming his way is less than 50% of his previous output. C

Our attitude on the field has now permeated our FO. We now just lay down and rollover for anybody...Where is that K-Y Jelly?

Except in Donte's case, Denver and/or Philadelphia offered us their pick and a *third* to move up to 8. http://buf.scout.com/2/526808.html If by some freak of nature Donte wasn't there at #14 or #15, Ngata would have still been there or there were other possibilities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft It wouldn't have been the end of the world if we didn't get Donte. In fact, we eschewed some Pro Bowlers to get him at 8 when we very likely could have had him later. That my friend, by any objective measure, is a reach... Now some folks were calling the McKelvin pick a reach. But I think that was a great pick. The kid is a game changer. Donte is not or up to this point, has not been a game changer. C

We could do worse. The kid has sound fundamentals and wants to get better. I'm impressed by any player who comes out of the program with his head screwed on straight. The last player I remember from UT as being someone who had it together was Peyton.

I really think Ayers in terms of investment value in the first round for a DL is the safest bet. I don't think he's gonna be a world beater or have a huge upside. But the kid is just solid. Kinda like a Phil Hansen type. But I don't know if you pick him at #11. That should be a game changer. And I just don't see him as that.

I'm not saying Cutler is a douche one way or another. I work at Vanderbilt. The guy showed up here everyday to work. He had an episode of immaturity - but after he was suspended for I don't remember now how many games, he got his act together. He played for a coach who didn't tolerate any bull. And his teammates LOVED him. The community loved him. The kid has a fire in his belly to win. Coming from Vandy that's saying something. ;-) Prior to this episode with McDaniels (whom I believe his making a case for being a douche. Remember him jawing with Belichik at halftime last season?) - I don't recall anything else untoward except the jawing with SD's Rivers and the my arm is better than Elway's comment. That just shows me he has moxie. And to top it all he was voted to the Pro Bowl by his peers. If all of the above makes him a "douche", sign me up. I'd rather win with a douche than lose with a saint. The front office seems to have come around to that way of thinking as well. We just signed the biggest me guy "douche" in the history of the game at WR. I'm sick and tired of losing with "fine young men." Up to this point, I'm optimistic about Edwards potential - but that's all it is potential. He needs to step up this year. Regardless of scheme, coordinators etc. I'd like for him to take a game and the team on his shoulders and show that he refuses to lose. Thus far I haven't seen that "fire" from him. I've seen plenty of that with Cutler. C

Are you serious? Pro Bowler vs Edwards? Really? So using that logic we should throw everything we have in trying to acquire Brady Quinn from the Browns - right? I mean after all he beat Edwards in Buffalo. WTH?

Just prior to draft, some teams practice gamesmanship in trying to "devalue" a player they like in the eyes of other teams. So they can have a shot at drafting him. This sure smells like that. A blunt? Are you kidding me? So what? The kid is a monster player.

I've been on record here as saying that I'd trade for Cutler in a heartbeat to replace Edwards. But I don't get the fascination with wanting to start over with an unproven rookie QB when we have a 3rd year veteran who is adequate and above average to good.

A lot more than Edwards?

I think it's that way in most states. But my intent was to say that if he was drinking why would he submit unless he had nothing to hide? At any rate, we''ll wait for the results. At 7 in the AM, I'm bleary eyed too... C

Just as an aside, if I was his lawyer and he was drinking at 7AM in the morning heading out to the beach, I would have told Stallworth to not submit to the test. This honestly sounds like an unfortunate accident. C

Really? Let's see in one case - someone died, the offender owned up and has taken a BLA test. He may or may not have been drunk and seems to be cooperating with the authorities. In the other case, the offender hit someone, didn't own up until he had no choice and then got into trouble again. All the while refusing to cooperate with authorities. The victim was hurt and did not die. The only real difference here is that one is a Buffalo Bill and the other isn't. I'm sick of the double standard here.

In a heartbeat...

Hey. If this works out for us, I'll be the first one to come up here and eat my words. This guy is possibly the most singularly gifted WR of the last 5-8 years in this league with the exception of Randy Moss, hell maybe even including him. This was a cheap shot. But then again if it succeeds - no one will care. Great franchises build from the ground up. A great franchise would have gotten a great coach and built a FO worth a damn. Ala Pitt or NE or anyone of half a dozen teams. But that would have been too difficult. We are a desperate, sad franchise - taking a shot in the dark. What the hell. We may as well. But if this fails, the franchise, the players, the city and region all fail. Expect the moving trucks to show up soon after. Best case scenario - he plays great. We make the playoffs. Then what? He leaves for a multi gaziilion dollar contract elsewhere that we can't possibly meet. You think he'll care. We'll just be here to pick up the pieces of all the other players and coaches he mowed down in his wake. This is an all chips in play - one slim UPSIDE against a whole bunch of travesties. But hey, who cares about all of that? Right? If any other franchise had attempted this, we'd be LMAO. But because the Bills did this - somehow it was the best thing ever. It's like we didn't have enough dysfunction and drama at One Bills Drive.

This was so obviously a marketing move. Think the Bills lost a bunch of season tix renewals? I think so. He will be a boy scout for half the season and the moment we are out of it, he'll explode. No coach is going to want to come here with that idiot on our team. Thankfully it's only for 1 year. This could be a genius move or the nail on the coffin that finally puts this franchise in the ground. Still, I give them credit for trying to shake things up. We don't have a strong enough locker room to keep him in check. The lunatic is gonna run the asylum.

I'm a far recent Bills fan. Just since the 90s. I didn't grow up with a football tradition, so I have no idea what a lot of the folks here went thru with the sh***y Bills. But years later I stayed loyal - partly because of the teams of the 90s *and* the front office and coaches. But moreso because of the fans, I just couldn't get over how much the Bills meant to WNY. Even in Rochester where I used to live. I live in Nashville and football is a big part of the South. Especially college ball. But, I honestly can say that no other region I've been to lives and dies by their team as much as Buffalo fans. The one possible exception is maybe Pittsburgh. So when ownership and the FO these past few years seems just a shade over apathetic. It breaks my heart for so many reasons. WNY deserves better. But unfortunately, unless something fundamental changes in the way the franchise is run, I believe it will only get worse and then ultimately the team will have to move due to lack of support. I don't know what the answer is. But I know what isn't the answer - to continue giving these idiots our hard earned money. I've made the decision to cancel the Sunday Ticket for the upcoming season. It just doesn't make sense to pay to be aggravated. Peace brothers and sisters, Charles

Greer is gonna pull a "Leonhard" in the Big Easy. With a real coach and a productive QB watch him make a run at being in the Pro Bowl.

I don't know if Coles is the answer. But right now we don't have a bona fide #2 receiving threat. I am a HUGE Steve Johnson fan. But even I can see that we need someone to take the heat off Evans and consequently Edwards. I suspect at some point if Johnson is given enough opportunities he'll take on the #2 or even #3 role. But right now the program is in dire straits and we need a proven guy. I also like the idea of trading for Scheffler from Denver and/or Cutler if he is available. He has the talent and swagger to be the next Jim Kelly. Plus he's played in cold weather. He's from Santa Claus, IND for God's sake...

I like his writing style. Very cogent. Well thought out.