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IT doesnt matter whos back there, our offensive line may be the worst ever. Theres not one QB in the league that is going to look good behind it.
Watching last nights game tells me Aaron Rodgers could . I also happen to think Big Ben could. That's two. I'm sure there are others.
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OK so it seems that no one would rather have Leinart right now over Trent so let me ask another question.
Is there any back up QB in the NFL right now that you would rather have starting over Trent?
Vince Young
Mark Brunell
Charie Batch
Dennis Dixon
Tyler Pigpen
Duante Culpepper
Tavaris Jackson
Sage Rosenfelds
Colt Brennan
Todd Collins
Rex Grossman
Chris Simms
Billy Volek
A. J. Feeley
Kyle Boller
Seneca Wallace
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Personally, just a gut feeling, I think McNabb will be on the block next offseason due to the signing of Vick and the play of Kevin Kolb. If no one is willing to pay the salary and give up the picks, he will be released. I'd go after McNabb if we could get him without breaking the bank and giving up too many picks. He is already used to similar weather and would have his best group of WR's since being in the NFL, even when TO departs in the offseason. The injuries are the only drawback, but he's had years where he's been completely healthy as well. I would applaud the move if we made it.
I could definitely go for this. And, he'd be what we haven't had the last 5 years, a leader in the huddle. Guys would want to follow him into NFL battle. I hope it happens.
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Does the fact that Colt McCoy is being mentored by HOF QB Roger Staubach sway anyone's opinion of him? Makes me think twice. Roger knows how to play QB in the NFL and win in the NFL.
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How about Haslet? He knows Buffalo and plays to win...
How about not? Maybe he plays to win, but he usually doesn't win. Career record 47 - 61 (.435). Dick with Bills 22 - 30 (.423)
Might be a marketing Bonanza though! Bermuda Triangle blah blah blah
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He also said he really likes our guys. They work real hard
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I'm all for bringing in an established vet, but I'm really not sure who's going to be available. The most notable free agents will be Jason Campbell and Kyle Orton, and I'm guessing Orton at least will be retained by his current club.
Campbell isn't bad, but isn't great, either. At some point, you're going to have to roll the dice on a a first round QB, or else just hope you back into one (Someone lets Drew Brees become a free agent, your 6th round pick from Michigan breaks out). The question is how long you wait to put the other pieces in place before you pull the trigger.
I wouldn't take Campbell. Orton I'd take in a heartbeat. He's not pretty, but he wins. That's all that counts. Last year we could have signed Jeff Garcia. He'd be better than Trent. Even Seneca Wallace would be better then Trent and he was a free agent this year. If he only lasts a year or two, so what? Then get someone else. I cant' predict the future, but if the Bills were aggressive, someone would be available and they could get him. The thought of sacrificing 3 more seasons for a rookie to "learn" is a worst case scenario for me. Many FA or trade bait QBs have taken their team to SB like Kurt Warner, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Matt Hasselback, Craig Morton, Jeff Hosstettler, Doug Williams ... In fact, HOF coach Joe Gibbs won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QBs. You don't have to have one guy as the "frachise QB" to be successful.
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Did your wife watch the KC game?
Or last year's San Diego game or the Tampa Bay game this year?
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My wife- who only passingly watches football- thinks that Trent is still suffering from that concussion he obtained versus the Cardinals last year. I dismissed her out of what I assumed was ignorance, but she might be right. Edwards has not been the same player since that injury.
Was his confidence shot after the concussion? Is he "gun-shy"?
My wife who is a HUGE football fan says the same thing. If the team thinks this, they should release him tomorrow. This league is no plan for "gun-shy" players. How many concussions did Jimbo, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach, and Troy Aikman have? Comes with the territory.
I tend to think this is not the case. I just don't think he's very good.
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While watching the game last night it became obvious to me that if we had Aaron on our team, we'd be 3-1 or maybe even 4-0. For those who think a QB doesn't make that much difference, last night's game should change your mind. If Trent had started last night's game for GB, they would have lost 56-7. Only TD on the fumble returned for TD by Matthews.
If GB had Fred Jackson in their backfield, they would have won.
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I voted for Marty. But Mike Holmgren is an interesting possibility. Mike has expressed an interest in being coach AND GM. He did it in Seattle for a while with marginal results. We need both, so Mike could be a twofer. I'm not 100% sold on Mike as a HC. He has gone to 3 Super Bowls and is 1-2 and all, but often his teams are really not that good. Had a long run of 8-8/9-7 seasons in Seattle with one 13-3 thrown in. And he can coach in cold weather and find QBs. I'd take him over Dick though.
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That may be, but don't tell me that it wouldn't get Ralph's attention!
I'm not even sure it would get the cleaning crew's attention.
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Jake Locker and Tony Pike are the only good QBs in this draft. They would be perfect for Buffalo given the conditions they play in and they need blue chippers to carry them.
Jake Locker is only a Junior this year. I live in Seattle and have seen him play a lot. I'm not convinced. He's getting better but he makes a lot of his big plays running.
I'll say it all season long and in the off season. Get someone who has shown they can play in the NFL, not a rookie. I don't want to sacrifice another 3 season while a rookie learns how to play. Free Agents and trade bait will be available. Always is.
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I'd sign or trade for a veteran who has proven he can play in the NFL and commands respect from his team mates and is a leader and try to draft Offensive Linemen if there any good ones available. Drafting a QB is too risky. Remember Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, Matt Leinert, Andre Ware, ...
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Especially after Trent starting sucking it up down the stretch last year.
I was concerned when Trent started sucking it down the stretch 2 years ago. Anyone remember the Jets and Giants games?
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I was thinking exactly the same thing. Aaron had no time to throw either. No more than Trent. Yet he was able to evade the rushers and complete passes. I think he had the same or less talent to work with in regards to TEs, RB, and WRs. Why can he do it and Trent just melts? Some coaching maybe, but I think that's the kind of stuff you can't coach. Heart. I just don't think Trent's a winner pure and simple.
I think it's Trent's last year on his contract. If he doesn't straighten things out pretty quick he will be hard pressed to find another NFL team to play for. He'll be JP II.
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I knew this season was over before it began last offseason when they signed Fitzgerald instead of someone that could challenge Trent for the starters job.
You now F. Scott died?
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Probably the same ones who watched week 2 and voted him at 62% unless you are saying all of the voters are psychotically inconsistent with mood swings.
He did a good job in week 2.
What ever happened to the guy who thought we should hire Raheem Morris?
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I too am officially off of the Trent bandwagon. I just don't think he has the fire in his belly to be an NFL QB. My prediction is he will be out of the NFL next year. Isn't this the last year of his contract in Buffalo?
Bring on Fitz.
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I voted No. Still at 3%. Who are those people?
I also voted Yes for Wade Phillips just because I hate the Cowboys and want them to continue to see them LOSE and LOSE often. He's at 14% Yes.
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Remember Bill Clinton' line "It's the economy stupid"
It's the line. End of story. You can't make any decision about the QB, the WR's, the RB's, or even AVP with the makeshift o-line that was trotted out there Sunday.
I think you're right to a point. But really, when Trent does have time to throw he still does the same thing. He had plenty of time to throw when he threw the pick six. Didn't help. He's just not very good.
Do you really think if we had Big Ben or Joe Flacco we'd be getting the same poor production from the QB spot?
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I'd put it at:
50 % Trent
30 % OLine
20 % scheme
This is Trent's third OC. Do they all have bad schemes? Maybe, but I haven't noticed any difference in his play form OC1 to OC2 to OC3. My theory is that Turk and now Alex have tried to open it up but Trent just won't throw it to the WRs with any consistency for whatever reason. Pathetic.
We'll suck as long as we have Trent and Dick running things.
My prediction: Trent will be out of the NFL next year.
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Depends on what the definition of "California QB" is. Troy Aikman went to UCLA, but he is from Oklahoma. Joe Montana was from Pennsylvania before he went to ND.

So I'm thinking Fitzpatrick starts against the Browns
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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How do you know this? He impressed me in pre season. I know it's only pre season but still. He threw the 20 yard passes Trent could not. Plus one of his strengths I always hear is his mobility. Might be just what the doctor ordered with this line. Since his time in Cincy he's gone through mini camps, training camp, and preseason. He knows the offense.
I say give him a shot and see what he can do in Buffalo. After about 25 starts I think we pretty much know what Trent can do.