reddogblitz

We'll see in a couple of weeks. Maybe Brock won't be so popular any more. Maybe he'll be injured. A lot can happen in a couple of weeks.

I'm going to have to dispute this as well. Baseball has been all about stats for as long as I can remember and that's a pretty long time. It started LONG before Moneyball. Moneyball is a cool movie though. 2nd string QB is the most popular guy on the team. Just the way it works.

Hard to argue with that. Call me part of the 1%. Somehow the Broncos were able to win 6 or 7 games with Peyton. I'm not surprised though. The 2nd string QB is ALWAYS the fan favorite.

National guys talking about Denver. They all said Peyton would come back and lead the Broncos to the promised land. Dilfer, Lewis, Young, and Dungy.

All of the ex-Jocks on the broadcast and post game show must be part of the 1% fringe contingent of loonies.

Coach Marrone took over a 6 win team. Coach Ryan took over a 9 win team.

Give Rex Tommy and we're 10-1.

Probably his career record. I just go by Bills record. That's all I care about. I'm sure Mularkey's career percentage is probably lower as well.

I've read this on here several times. Coach Marrone wouldn't want McCoy. How do you figure? Marrone was a run/ground and pound guy. Seems that kind of guy would want one of the best RBs in the NFL. No? Besides, Whaley handled the 53 and Marrone the 43 or however many guys are active on game day.

Reasons for what? With the exception of Carson Palmer (so far) all of them have gotten to at least the conference championship and weren't drafted by that team. what's your point? You wouldn't want any of them because they weren't drafted by the team that they had success with? The original premise was that the only way you get a franchise QB is by drafting him. I just pointed out exceptions.

Ooops !! Sorry. While true in many cases, far from true in all cases. Leave no stone unturned. Don't pigeon-hole yourself into one strategy. Stakes are too high for that.

My point was just that there is an alternative to drafting, which you said was the only way. Sure, some of them were acquired in trades, but none of them were drafted by the team they played the best for. We should be on the look out and try to trade for someone who has had success at the NFL level and now seems to have issues like a neck problem or a shoulder injury or on the outs with his team for some reason. In the off season we'll see what happens. And draft somebody. Leave no stone unturned is my point.

Yes, they do. Peyton Manning Drew Brees Kurt Warner Carson Palmer Jay Cutler Alex Smith Matt Hasselbeck (definitely franchise in mid 2000s) Randall Cunningham (took Vikings to NFC Championship late in career. Vikings lost due to missed FGs, several) Brett Favre (took Vikings to NFC Championship late in career.) Steve Young Brad Johnson Yeah we can draft and develop a QB (like that ever works). I'd prefer to see us use the Arizona Cardinals model. Find some QB who has had success and maybe seen as having lost it or whatever, and pounce (and win). Yes he was. You do realize he, like Tyrod, didn't play for his first 3 or 4 years, right?

This is probably true to a degree. But doesn't seem to be the case with Aaron Rodgers and Brock Oswieler. College game, especially for a QB, is so different from college, a guy's gotta do a lot of book learning too in addition to learning by fire. Maybe it's better to not try to do both at once?

I haven't forgotten. However, we don't have the D we were promised and won't for the foreseeable future it seems. IF Tyrod were playing a only a little better, we could still be winning. ie. not underthrowing 4 long passes vs Patsies**, not stopping throwing it to Sammy in 2nd half vs Cheaps, not throwing a pick on the first play vs Patsies** in the first game, not fumbling so much, etc. I believe that's where the heartburn is coming from. When you don't have a good D, your offense and QB must step up. In the game where out D crumbles, that's not happening. Sure, he was only going to be a game manager, but now we need more. Can he deliver? So far, mixed results. That said, ride him out the rest of the season and see what we got. If you keep dumping QBs after 10-20 games if they aren't Joe Montana, you'll likely never have a good QB. Overall I've been happy with a lot of his play.

I was at the game where the Bills trounced the playoff bound Seahawks. So it wasn't all peaches and cream.

Billy Buffalo

Crazier things HAVE happened.

You're dreaming.

Having Hackett Jr. As a rookie QB coach AND OC didn't help much either.

Maybe so, but Bledsoe was better, so far. I was going to post that Bledsoe was the best of the century so far, but Frank beat me to it.

I'd take CK on the Bills in 1/2 of a NY heartbeat.

Yet I (and many TBDers I suspect) would trade Tyrod heads up for any one of the guys you mentioned.

How do you know this? At this point I'd be even curious as what makes you think so.