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I've been so focused on the O-line I'd actually forgotten about him.

Thank you so much. Reports like this balance out all the "You suck"/"No, you suck"/Stop calling me names. You really suck" posts that seem to have grown more common over the years. I guess I'll take the positive view on Hangartner. While I'm not hearing any overwhelming reports about him a la Eric Wood, I'm also not hearing that he's getting "Fowlered" or "Prestoned". Also good news on Walker. On the other side of the line, did you catch anything significant on McCargo? Did he do anything to make an impression on you (good or bad)?

I'll second that.

Is the glass half empty or half full? Sheesh.

Unfortunately, Grasshopper, I can't help you on that one. I've never tried. I just logged on to the games at about 7:00 P.M. local European time and turned it off after the game was done. Very convenient, not as expensive as trying to find a place in a bar in Berlin or Athens, and I could go out to buy beer at the local store and stow it in my mini-fridge in the hotel room and not pay 5 euros per can. I'll be hitting the road a lot in mid- to late-September, so I'll be logging on frequently (for all you NFL trolls that scour these boards).

More than likely it's a muscle spasm, or not enough fluids, blah, blah, blah. See the inane thread regarding Jason Peters' quad pull. But, I'll tell you what...if he herniated a disc, you can fuggin' fergit it. I mean, like, permanently. Football's done. And THEN the Front Office has some tap-dancing to do vis-a-vis Mr. Walker and Mr. Bell.

I can't remember the actual service name, but it's something like "Game Pass". It's not on "NFL Network". You have to go to "NFL.com". I used it a few times while on the road in Europe last fall, and it was pretty good. It costs about $25 per game, and they know it's fairly priced. You need high-speed or cable - preferably cable.

Oh, my. Sorry. I read your post having not logged in, and didn't see the signature. I logged on, replied, and logged off.

I guessed it correctly, but Googled it to make sure. T.R. Read "Theodore Rex". Great biography. But what the hell does that have to do with inane posts from Pats* fans? No one is criticizing the President in this thread. On the Fox News Network, on the other hand, they have people calling him a racist.

Not trying to be a poop, but it did happen. I've been unsuccessful in my efforts to find it through web searches, but believe me - it did happen. I believe it was in 1970, and I believe it was with the Chicago Bears. A player did in fact die on the field (it was so notorious that it showed up the following week in a "Doonesbury" cartoon). The upside of this tragedy is that every NFL stadium now has ambulances and paramedic staffs on site throughout every game. every Sunday (and Monday, and Thursday, and occasional Saturdays at the end of the season). The ambulance that rolled onto the field to carry Kevin Everett away was NOT put there by the NFL "just in case". They would NOT put the money out "just in case". They are putting the money out for that ambulance because an NFL player did indeed die on the field a long time ago, and - at the time - everyone just stood around like a bunch of goons looking at this guy dying on the field because there were NO ambulances or EMT personnel available. Don't kid yourself. There's a reason for everything.

I'll regret this, but, okay, I'll bite. What is your profession?

Okay, did some digging. Not a LOT of digging, but enough keystrokes to confirm my hazy memory: "An NFL source informs me the Bills have agreed to accept the Eagles’ second first-round draft pick, 28th overall, and a fourth-round pick in this year’s draft and a conditional pick in next year’s draft in exchange for Peters." If this is true, all Bills fans should be rooting for a quick recovery. I acknowledge that Peters is a dick, and I'm glad he's gone after the abortion-of-a-performance he put forth last year. But that's last year. This is "this year". And I'm Jason Peters' greatest fan. Because I want a better pick next year. I don't want his fat ass sitting on the bench collecting more money than I'll ever imagine in three lifetimes. I want that fat ass to earn it.

Wasn't the trade conditional? I mean, wasn't there an escalation clause? I thought the Bills got more if Peters did well. If this is the case, one would hope the best for Peters, right? Flame away, because I'm not certain, but I do recall something about performance incentives.

If all this works, I'd expect Trent to look significantly better against 3-4 defenses this year than he did last year. Partly because I'd expect to see some improvement in the quality of Trent's play. But mostly it's because the situation in which Trent was placed, last season, when going up against 3-4 defenses, was absolutely terrible. The Bills' front office very clearly made a conscious effort to upgrade those circumstances in the off-season. I agree to a large extent, but he's going to have to maintain the quick release that he showed early in the season. After that "Arizona" hit, it just looked like he was moving in slow motion. (I hate to be too critical, but he started to look like Johnson out there). Marino used to drive me nuts - 1, 2, 3 bang. It's a wonder Smith could EVER get to the guy.

THAT would be making a statement. Good girl.

Yes. Well done! "We're painting the roses red!"

Mark my words. He's going to take the spot, and he's going to be Oglethorpe. I like the bit about his ability to come in on the blitz. Always a challenge blitzing Brady*, but the mental image of Oglethorpe tattooing his jersey number on Brady's* rib cage will leave me smiling all day long.

Nice to see McCargo's name mentioned two or three times in Chris Brown's "Day 3 Notes". It's been so long since I've heard anything positive about the young man that merely seeing his name in print is a plus. I'm so hopeful for him, because I'm really not comfortable with the Bills' run-stopping effort. Maybe with Stroud being hurt for a couple of days, we'll see more mention of McCargo because of more playing time.

You're correct. A million years ago I worked a summer job with the Monroe County Environmental Services Department. As a 20-year-old. I got to take water samples from streams and beaches around Monroe County and check them for turbidity and bacterial content. Such a most-excellently-cool job. I was the "Richard" who got to call WBBF and WCMF to close down Charlotte. That's right - ME. I'm the dick that did that to you several decades ago, and ruined so many parties. And I loved it. The reason Charlotte can be such a schit hole is that the piers were designed in a time when no one thought about current flow. The Rochester harbor was designed to allow freighters to move in and out, and to provide shelter during line squalls - not mitigating algal growth. So the piers were built of steel-reinforced concrete with steel plating that interrupted the normal west-to-east current. The result? All that Cladophora piles up on the west beach next to the pier. And rots. It's not as bad as it was back in the 1960s and 1970s with all the dying alewives (Pseudoharengus sp.), but it's still pretty gruesome. Structures like that wouldn't be allowed anymore. Anything that even approximates those piers would have channels built into the to allow cross flow. That won't help Charlotte. It's always going to be downwind from hell because of those piers. Drink up!

Fair enough. "Starting to fight" is one thing. "Succeeding" is another. The legislation that is the Great Lakes Compact started out of an episode in (?) 1997 or 1998 when a company - I believe a Canadian company - started selling water from the Great Lakes to China. That schit got stompted upon in a New York Minute. But it still took 10 years for all 8 states (apologies, Pat Leahy and Vermont, but you don't count with Lake Champlain) and two Canadian Provinces to sign off on the agreement, and to have said agreement passed in the Federal Legistlature of both countries. Okay, so there are a few Wisconsin communities that are pissed off and are going to light the torches and pitchforks and march on the collective capitals to change a law that took a decade for TWO NATIONS JUST TO GET TO THE POINT OF SIGNATURE. Hello, Satan speaking. Not a lot of snow down here, but I'm waiting....... "Libby" - Carly Simon

Oh, no. You're quite right. He's saying all the right things, and bringing a positive media spotlight to a place whose chip-on-its-shoulder is the size of a Douglas Fir. And it's nice to get the positive props for once. (Not saying the props to WNY are not well-deserved). But let's see what TSW when Owens implodes. Lemmings, anyone?

I agree, and am trying to view the game WITHOUT WEARING the "Homer" goggles. There was another thread in which someone posted thoughts about the Pats* defense. The D-Line is terrifying. That much is unarguable. But their LBs? They were playing during the Eisenhower Administration, weren't they? And their secondary is.....well, per Tim Graham, anyway......"pedestrian". As such, I guess it comes down to the the Pats* pass rush. If they can bring it against the Bills' O-line, bad night for Buffalo. But if that line holds. my money's on Evans and Owens against the Pats* CBs. My money's on Reed and Parrish out of the slot against the Pats* geriatric LB corps. (Does anyone in Pats*-land REALLY think Bruschi is going to be be able to catch Parrish's first move ? Seriously? Good for Tedy. I honestly wonder if he'd be kept on another team). I'm not ready to write the game off. I know everyone's 0-0, and everything's bubbling with optimism in preseason. Looking at it rationally, however, it's not as gloomy as it has been for the past few years.

You crack me up! I know you don't do this on purpose, but....Jesus, it's so funny. I think I'm starting to like your posts!

Thanks, Senator. I'm so grateful that people are bitching about posts like this, rather than the collective inanity of the off-season. I'm not able to attend camp this year, so I appreciate the updates. The reality is that we're both looking at a 340-pound man who is out of shape on the first day of training camp. Imagine my surprise.

The water's going nowhere. Last year, amidst absolutely zero fanfare (thank God) the Great Lakes Compact was passed and signed into law. The water of the Great Lakes can only be used by those COUNTIES in those states which border the lake, and which are part of the drainage basin. So, for example, Lake Ontario water can't even be diverted to Sullivan or Rockland Counties. I'm sitting here looking at a beautiful bay in the Eastern Basin of Lake Ontario.....and it's going to be here forever. NOT watering some goddamn golf course in Nevada.