2020 Our Year For Sure

Give me a break. Everytime they showed a replay, there was at least one reciever who was WIDE open, usually downfield. And several people who were at the game have said he missed open recievers all night. Trent threw three interceptions early, and then got into some kind of funk mentally. His play is on him.

Are you saying Poz needs to be replaced?

Right, but you don't know when he's out of his "current state." Maybe Monday Night was the last of it. Who are you to say for certain? Since we don't have a good alternative, I'm staying with him.

Nice to see you back, Tip. We played hard for 4 quarters Monday night. Our defense kept us in the game throughout, and while Edwards was awful, the rest of the team picked him up. Three things we haven't seen much of this year: pass rush, running game, big plays on special teams. All three things showed up in a big way Monday. When we went down 23-13 at the top of the 4th, we thought it was over in my house...but this team fought and clawed its way back, all three units contributing to finally taking their first lead with 2 and a half minutes left! How can you be embarrassed by that effort, and that attitude? We basically won this game, despite a dreadful QB peformance. If Jackson doesn't fumble, or McKelvin or Simpson hold onto their would-be interceptions, or Corner connects on what should've been a point blank sack on the final drive, or Lindell hits the field goal...we'd have found a way to win. Maybe next time we make one of those plays. This loss is especially hurtful because of how important the game was, but there is nothing to be embarrassed about.

Seriously. This was one of our best and most complete games of the season. What in the world are you embarrassed about?

Its possible, but we've left ourselves no margin for error. I won't allow myself to get emotionally involved again by thinking playoffs until we win a god damn game. If we're 6-5 Sunday night, and the Jets lose to Tenny, then we can talk.

She kinda looks like a pig sometimes.

People other than the actual NFL do seem to have an interest in tallying wins and losses for QBs...but then again, people also have an interest in reality television. In neither case does popular opinion keep them from being a steaming pile of manure. Its a flawed statistic, because there are far too many variables that the quarterback cannot control. No QB stats are perfect, but you can sure as hell get a lot closer than counting how often the 51 other guys on a QB's team won games.

I don't know if he's truly worth what we're paying him, but he's the best pass rushing down lineman we've got, so he's not going anywhere.

But Vick didn't "win" the game any more than Warrick Dunn, Sam Rogers or Patrick Kerney "won" the game. Football is the ultimate team sport, and there's just no place for attributing wins and losses to one player. Vick was just 1/52. As Dean points out, the NFL obviously agrees.

Agreed. Said as much in the very post you quoted.

And its a flawed stat, just like it is in baseball for pitchers. Six times this year, Johan Santana did NOT record a win in a game which he left with a 2+ run lead. This happened only once to Lincecum. Guess who gets the Cy Young? Its the same deal in football. There are just way too many factors beyond a quarterback's control to evaluate them with a win/loss record. You have to try to pull out their impact on the game with things like yards per attempt and TD/INT ratio if you want to judge their play with any level of accuracy.

"Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game!"

Gregg Williams had a "strong personality." That worked out swell, eh?

Needs: 1a. Left DE 1b. Center 2. Tight End Wants: 1. Right Guard 2. Defensive Tackle 3. Will LB 4. Safety 5. Fullback

Good point. I went out to a bar last night and saw Rian Lindell there, but was confused by these huge black marks on his back. Now I get it...they were tire tracks from being thrown under a big ol' bus.

Great. Keep making stuff up.

Thanks.

Really? Is that what he did last year with Losman? Jauron has switched quarterbacks plenty throughout his career...he did it in Chicago, and he did it last year. I have no idea where your theory is coming from.

Wow, she's gorgeous. Maybe its me, but she looks a bit like a young Charlize Theron there.

No, the FALCONS beat the PACKERS at Lambeau Field in the playoffs.

If I was in love with you, I'd stay with you through thick and thin.

At least you've had the pleasure of watching them make their way through the playoffs 4 times.

I was born in '88, and I can relate to you. The only playoff experiences I remember are Pittsburgh destroying us, the loss in Miami due to that bullshlt personal foul call on Andre Reed, Todd Collins coming off the bench to lose to Jacksonville, and Home Run Throw Up. Add to that that I'm a Mets fan, and yeah...I'd love to know just once what its like to root for a winning sports team. "Someone convince me how to stop caring so much." Couldn't have said it better myself, man. I truly wish I wasn't so emotionally involved with this team. I always pulled through the heartbreaking losses knowing that our day had to eventually come...but with this Toronto thing looming over us, all our labor and grief may be for nothing. Ah well, keep fighting, keep hoping. What more can you do?

Thanks, Dean. Agreed, Dibs. Lets get the interior of this line FIXED, and have more games like last night in the run game. Thats got to be worth a 1st round pick. Next to a quality center, perhaps Butler and Dockery would look a bit more like what we were hoping for.