2020 Our Year For Sure

I'm not clear on just what Choice gives you on the field. He's big and slow, but not particularly powerful and not a great short yardage back. He's been used as a receiving HB but had a few drops for us, and I'd want that guy to have some shiftiness and be able to get some YAC, anyway. Best 3rd RB in the league? Why exactly?

That was a fun read, thank you.

We're assuming Pettine is going to make McKelvin the next Revis, I guess you missed the memo.

Or Loser by the Grateful Dead "You know I'm only in it for the gold."

Would Greene not be a better fit at OLB? He's a decent blitzer and seems to do well with coverage responsibilities out there. edit- also his scouting report on NFL.com indicates he lacks strength to take on blocks between the tackles and gets lost in traffic inside. I'd link it but I can't copy and paste on my phone.

Yeah, well. That's just like, uh...your opinion, man.

We throw more.

Where did you read Barkley has no long range? Despite not having elite arm strength, the long ball is a strength of his game. He has good accuracy to all parts of the field and I've seen him throw about 58 yards in the air. He's no Fitz. His issue is he doesn't get the same zip in the mid range that others do because he lacks a truly elite arm.

Well done

NFLN is broadcasting his Pro Day shortly.

Many assume Fitz was a Gailey thing rather than a Nix thing. Why is that? The GM's job is to manage the roster. The coach's job is to win with that roster. Obviously any decent tandem will collaborate, but ultimately, these are the tasks that each is responsible for. Publically, each man fully supported Fitz at every turn. Gailey did this more often, but Head Coaches are required to face the media several times a week. It's not fully the fault of either one, after all, it's a collaboration. But to say Nix was never "tasked" to find a quarterback is to completely absolve him of his own job...based on what?

That's a really good post. I still think it's what is best for us, but you raise legitimate points.

Can you even call Flynn a "retread" when he's never had a chance to start? We really have no idea what he is or isn't capable of. Whole lot of assumptions being made in this thread.

Ya. As crappy as Fitz is, Billy Joe Hobert was a lot worse.

Well I have no interest in Nassib either, so we've found some common ground. The guy can't throw a long ball and would limit the playbook. But there are other prospects in this draft that are very interesting in my opinion.

Actually, it makes more sense to do it now then it ever has in the history of the league. Nobody is winning a Superbowl without a good quarterback. With the rule changes, if your passing game can't keep up with that of the opposition, you're toast. Washington recognized this and gave up THREE first rounders, plus a second rounder! And rightfully so, nobody rips them for it. Your options today are 1) do whatever it takes to get a good quarterback or 2) fail at your primary goal.

Nobody having done it before doesn't mean much to me, the Bills need to do what they need to do. People have the misperception that drafting 1st round quarterbacks in back to back years implies you're giving up on the first guy. Instead I look at it as competition and depth. No team will accomplish their goal of winning the Superbowl without quality QB play. How can fixing a position of such importance not be worth two 1st round picks? If you draft two, you double your odds. If they're both great, pick one and trade the other to the NFC for multiple picks. If one is great and one is good, you have your starter and your backup. I don't want to see the Bills draft one guy and make him our only option for three years. I'm not interested in burning that amount of time, should he falter. What is wrong with bringing in legitimate competition and giving yourself options?

Good point. I have no problem with threads discussing the role of race in coaching hires, what I think of the way a player expresses their faith, or one dedicated to naming the league's biggest thug at each position...but THIS one goes too far!

I'd rather have both.

Its tough trying to figure out exactly what Barkley is missing. Everyone points to arm strength but I've seen him sling it 60 yards in the air and I've seen him put it on a line in the 15-yard range. He has great touch but can also put zip on the ball when he has to, and nobody seems to question his intangibles or his accuracy. Like you said, last year he was looked at as a #1 overall and he had a great year in 2012. I think we'd be lucky to get him at 8.

He seems to have more athleticism than Geno. I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles' interest in Geno is a smokescreen and their target is Scott in the 2nd.

Hey ya never know! Personally I think it'd be really cool to see the Bills locker room lead the way and set an example.

Any examples of players who were as good after a torn achilles tendon as they were before it?

I completely disagree with that, CardinalScotts. Nelson is a solid possession receiver who makes for a convenient target for a quarterback on third down, with his size and his sure hands. It's actually not important whether he could beat starting corners, what matters for him is that he could beat linebackers. Remember he was a very strong blocker with nearly TE size. If the D lines up in the nickel, Nelson gives you an advantage running it by serving as another TE. If they line up in the base D, he has a chance to get open over the middle. I do not mean to suggest that DCs lost sleep out of a fear of David Nelson, but this was a nice little thing we had going for us that Gailey did a good job of utilizing. Nelson isn't a guy you want as one of your starters, he's a helpful roll player. All that said, the point others have made about his injury is a fair one. I don't see anyone else rushing to sign him either. But when the time comes I hope we're in play.

Your link also points out that Davis has been a pass-catching TE who does not excel at blocking, stuck in a run-first offense. The Bills are likely to be more of a passing team, making him a better fit and giving him more opportunity. It also points out he was productive with Rex Grossman, so he's done it before. On the other hand, I wonder if there are many examples of players coming back from his injury and being the same player they were before. Or if most guys, if they get back at all, are like Takeo Spikes where they can still be a decent player but never have the same explosiveness.