2020 Our Year For Sure

Crickets The EJ partisanship has gone to the point of insanity. Now you're not permitted to make objective statements about what has transpired in his career. No matter what they try to tell ya it's perfectly fine to both get excited about EJ's progress and potential, and also acknowledge the reality that he played poorly the last time he got a chance. Preferrable, even. I don't know why this is so difficult

I wasn't thinking of running when I typed that, I don't think the mobility is key to Roman's system the way some do. He has an enormous playbook and I don't think he'd have a problem simply ignoring the QB running plays. Cassel limits the playbook because he doesn't throw downfield very well. That's what I mean by EJ keeps the whole playbook open- you don't have to go into Chan/Fitz mode where everything is horizontal and the defense can creep up to the LOS. With Cassel this becomes a possibility to keep in mind.

I look at it like EJ is the better overall quarterback while Cassel is the more reliable. As a starter I much prefer EJ, but the backup job isn't about upside to me as much as it is limiting downside. Cassel won't win on his own but his style and strengths lend themselves to giving the rest of the team the chance to elevate their game and find a way to win. EJ is capable of astonishing things but you don't know what you're getting on a given day- he could give you zero chance to win like he did in Houston. As others have said, if Tyrod is out multiple weeks I much prefer EJ, he keeps the whole playbook open and unlike Cassel has a shot to be really good. If it's an in-game replacement I prefer Cassel, you know the ball will come out on time and accurately and you'll still have a chance to win that day.

Bravo Doug. Love it

I think they're gonna use Graham and Rambo, if not then Brooksy gets a shot. I don't see Rex after what he went through last year playing a rookie who isn't ready at CB against Luck and those WRs. could easily be wrong of course, no sources deep within.

With Schwartz it worked because our guys fit his system perfectly. With Rex it will work because he can play any system.

It'll be better. I expect Darby won't start

Clay for me too, I couldn't be more pumped to see him make plays for us. A matchup nightmare positioned right in front of the quarterback, now that's how you make an inexperienced QB's life easier.

An unproven qb doesn't necessarily create a ceiling. What if he does that annoying thing and goes ahead and proves himself.

Alright alright alright

Curious about Easley too, you never know if the guy may get it together. That'd be pretty f'n cool.

At least it's over with.

Please post more.

The advantage is you get to have a QB who has done this before.

Another thought on this, I have to respectfully disagree with your reason why you don't see it around the league. We have -one of the best rosters in the NFL top to bottom (ready to win) -a starting quarterback who is a complete unknown -a backup quarterback who is a complete unknown These decisions are not made in a vacuum. If Seantrel Henderson is a starting left tackle it decreases (but by no means eliminates) the value Cordy Glenn has to our team. Likewise, the circumstances above give Cassel value to the Buffalo Bills in particular.

If the Bills did keep Cassel, where roughly would you think they rank in terms of total cap money devoted to the quarterback position?

I think quite a bit of EJ. There is nothing I'd like more than to see this team go to the playoffs with EJ Manuel establishing himself as a franchise quarterback! It would be sweeter for me personally than it would be to see Tyrod do the same because on top of finally seeing the Bills get strong quarterback play and wins, it would mean personal vindication with my dad and brother- few things in this world are more appealing to a Jewish man like myself. I think you're pointing to the line "the last time he played he gave us no chance to win," but fear you've misconstrued the meaning. The last game he played he gave us no chance to win, and a relatively strong preseason following a shaky training camp is what it is. EJ has made clear progress and that is a beautiful thing! Hopefully he's ready to fulfill his potential. Consider that if EJ followed the career path of Tyrod or Aaron Rodgers he'd still be sitting on the bench for two more full seasons. Acknowledging he may or may not be ready is a far cry from writing the young man off.

Could you be thinking of Stephania Bell? http://espnmediazone.com/us/bios/josina-anderson/

It's not only his mentorship. Consider that Tyrod has never played real NFL football and the last time EJ tried it he gave us no chance to win. Both have a ton of natural ability and looked good in preseason but why assume they can start in this league before you actually see it? Is starting a QB who has never played NFL football not risky enough? It's so outrageously easy to cover our bases in case we're wrong / injuries, all we'd need to do is not cut a guy.

Thanks for the info!

Now this is funny, eball. This is humor. Here I'm labeled an EJ hater simply because I don't think it makes sense for this team to subtract reliable quarterbacks. In my family I'm an EJ fanboy who regularly invokes eyerolls for voicing belief in the kid and talking about him as a legitimate prospect. Shows how insane the partisanship has gotten on this young man. Either get giddy or get lost!

I thought Urbik played well at guard for Incognito the first game, would be very surprised to see him go.

I just hope it's not about an injury.

Ha we'll see if that's just the writing on The Wall. I'd prefer to keep him just in case but Tyrod looks ready to make him expendable.

Matt Simms sees the writing on the wall.