The Big Cat

this is pretty much exactly how i feel is it because they're twins and share a brain, so rob allows rex to be in two places at once? (only half kidding) meaning: does rob know what rex knows/wants and can articulate it just as well/better so that rex can focus on other aspects of being an hc? the nebulous title concerns me as well. i haven't the foggiest what dennis thurman did in 2015. i do know that after the bills posted middling offenses under chan gailey that nobody was calling for curtis modkin's job. but with the addition of rob, now i'm even more confused about what it is that thurman WILL be doing. i can't pass judgement on any of these things because i don't have a damn clue. and these issues are important enough that i'm left almost entirely un-opininiated about the entire scenario, not knowing some very pertinent info.

Going out on a limb here: No team in NFL history has missed the playoffs for three consecutive years (let alone 15), swapped in a new HC and new week one QB during the offseason then ended their playoff drought. My guess is that that has never happened. I'm willing to bet that you don't even need to define the playoff drought leading to the offseason switch over as three years, that the same is true in lesser time. Bills fans--myself included--had convinced themselves of something which on paper was highly improbable.

There is nothing obvious about that obtuse statement. I guess we can consider the guns blazing. Seriously. Get a grip.

Yep.

I didn't vote, bro.

If you wanted to enrich discussion you would have added "I don't know yet" as an answer to each of your poll questions. But, you seem to be in the business of dividing people and making them choose sides, so I'm not surprised you didn't. To speculate. I think discussions get contentions when fans profess to know everything. I'm guilty of it too. I responded the way I did because we could be in for a migraine of an offseason if we go in (as FireChan is wont to do) with guns blazing.

To discuss ambiguities. Nobody, and I mean nobody who spends time posting here as an inkling of a clue how Rob Ryan's presence on the payroll will impact the defensive personnel that is poised to do a near 50% overhaul over the next eight months. We have no information. None. WTF would we waste time discussing or debating stuff we know zilch about?

Isn't it a little foolish to DECIDE these things in mid-January? Why must we know definitively whether we YES like or NO dislike anything that's happening right now?

I don't know why fans reject the notion that forcing the offense into a quick passing game can actually be a good thing. If coaches could have their QB rock and fire for four-eight yards every drop back...they would. The only guy who does it with consistency is Brady. There's a reason for that.

My take, because I know FireChan cares: This is a win/lose/win for the Bills: Win: it works Lose: it doesn't work Win: if it doesn't work, we blow the whole !@#$ing thing up and try again This is a win/lose for Rex: Win: it works Lose: it doesn't work, and he can kickstart his broadcast career Rest assured, nobody gambling more in this scenario than Rex. This is a Lose/Lose/Win/Lose for Rob Ryan Lose: this must be a castrating moment for him. They're twins for Christ's sake. They began their career together on the same plane, went their separate ways, his twin had more success and now Rob's forced to work for him. This is undoubtedly the best audition he'll have for his next job which I'm certain is why Rex castra--gave it to him accordingly. Lose: if this doesn't work, he's effectively done. Win: if it works, he'll get offers again Lose; if he gets offers again, it's because his twin had to swoop in and save him. Face it, this is not about the Bills or their fans. This is about the Ryan brothers, and this move will make or break them. They have everything riding on it, much more so than the Bills and their fans do.

I was concerned that Rex lost some of his fastball after he got lap band. Now that we have a carbon copy of pre-lap band Rex on the sideline, we've got our Fat Rex. This defense will surely turn around.

Who said that? That could be the reply to 90% of the posts in this thread.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/RyanRo0.htm

Could not disagree more. The hit on Brown was deplorable.

why would i suddenly think it was different?

The team that attempts the 25th most passes can't have a "top 10 QB" IMO

Is this another cockamamie fantasy scenario that fans will convince themselves of, then turn and throw a tantrum when it never comes close to happening? God I love the offseason.

Well this comes as a relief. Looking forward to smearing them all over the field two more times next year. For the past three offseasons, Gase has been the embodiment of the oversold underwhelming coordinator who gets inexplicably plucked for interviews. Fins gon Fins

Is their newscast trapped in a comedy-loop from 2009?

Fans will be pleased to learn that the Bills have already cut next year's needless ST penalties by 50% before WC weekend even kicked off!

Yeah, signing off on the certainty that this WAS A PLAYOFF team seems odd when you look back critically on the 2014 season.

Doesn't matter what I think. That's an egregious error if he did. He has to know better. They had a down to give. They didn't need a TD, and could have/should have settled for the chip shot if he couldn't bring himself to get it into the endzone, be it because of bad play call, bad execution, clock jitters or anything. If TT wants to be paid like an NFL QB and if we want to consider him one, he simply can't make these mistakes. See my answer above. In spite of how FC spins my assertions, saying TT should have called it doesn't absolve the coaches. I hear what you're saying. But I need my QB to be automatic in these circumstances. We'll go a lot further with a QB that has this wherewithal than we would if we're relying on the coaches to dictate what happens in crucial situations.

I know this sounds like a cop out, but I don't profess to know what's going on on the sidelines, and I honestly can't remember exactly what was happening on the field that led them to take so long. All I know is that they were still positioned for an ideal finish in spite of a less than ideal setup. Clock stopped from the four yard line with 0:08 to go AND a time out left, they absolutely should have gotten points. I don't believe it was clock management that prevented them from doing so. If anything, it prevented them from not turning it over sooner, giving Dallas a chance to rally (though they probably wouldn't have tried given Kellen Moore)

I honestly don't remember if they were or weren't in no-huddle. But I'd counter to say that any competent QB would have taken control of the clock himself. The four I was counting were Dareus, Hughes, Gilmore and Darby. I'd be willing to include Lawson, but not Graham. He was awful this year.

We've now reached the football debating equivalent of Godwin's Law. Thank you. Are you seriously letting TT completely off the hook? These are autonomous, sentient beings. They can perform of their own free will.