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So of all the reports, of the 750,000 PA voters that will have to adjust, there isn't one person that will have difficulty obtaining a license? Why are we making it difficult for people to vote?

If it's a position that benefits them at the cost of Republicans, then of course I do. Inherently anything that benefits one of the major parties will handicap the other, though, right? So if they have a "position" that alters the process for the benefit, then their pile of **** is just as steamy.

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I couldn't agree more.

I understand we fundamentally diverge on whether or not obtaining an ID is a reality. I have no reason to believe that so much would have been made of this if it was as easy a you profess it to be. Then I'll come back to my assertion that this has nothing to do with "integrity in the voting process," and everything to do with knocking out a large block of Democratic voters, thus the quick draw on the tough titties if you can't get an ID attitude. If we were so damned concerned about the purity of the electoral process, then those clamoring for ID's would be equally concerned with making sure everyone who needs one gets one. Instead, I'm getting the exact opposite vibe--ye olde help your own !@#$ing self mentality which has done wonders for ingratiating the otherwise sound intellect of the GOP with an understandably put-off audience. "You're not wrong, [Republicans]. You're just a [bunch of] !@#$(s)." Assuming of course, that setting up barriers is--on some semantic planet--not synonymous with "restricting." You can argue till you're blue in the face that everyone has fair and easy access to ID's, but that's just plainly ignoring all the coverage of this issue that indicates the contrary.

I think this has become a discussion of personal responsibility run amok. Somewhere there's a universe where accountability and empathy can live in balance--but never in American political discourse, it seems.

You're debating that they're capable of voting with the ID law. That's not what I asked. And you're not basing that opinion on anything that resembles some people's reality. Some, sure, others, definitely not.

I've already answered yes to that hypothetical question, I'm not sure what ethical hang up you have answering mine. HA! Then we'll agree to disagree.

Yes but the evidence would suggest those numbers would be reversed. Not my data, but it's the data that's out there. Yes or no.

Okay. So, if 100,000 don't end up voting because of the new ID laws, but 10,000 cases of voter fraud are curbed, are these "easy and effective" measures worth the collateral damage? Yes or no.

This discussion would be a lot more fruitful, if folks weren't arguing this for me. Never once have I said voter fraud is nonexistent.

How does ID law prevent the will to fraud? How is fraud already detected without the ID law?

Well, I'm still waiting (in vain, I know) for LA to explain how an ID law would have prevented this. I'm also curious as to how this was ever detected without the ID laws. The case does nothing to demonstrate the necessity for a reactionary ID law.

How will presenting an ID (nobody under the age of 21 has ever manipulated one of those before) have stopped this from happening? And how ever was she caught without the ID law?

That's a false choice if ever one was written on PPP (and they are...a lot)

So 10 counts of voter fraud were caught, prosecuted and punished. A whopping ten. With gobs of people like this getting caught, no doubt we need tighter restrictions.

Hmmm...I never noticed. I also never expected HD quality.

Negatory, but I think it's on Hulu.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-27/slow-growth-leaves-room-for-obama-to-win-re-election

http://goo.gl/0itxY

Looks great to me. I watch in through a built-in app on my Samsung TV and on my iPad. Only have quality issues when connectivity is low.

Haha, I remember that show! I was finishing up high school when it was on. It scared the **** out of me...

I work for a small firm in a economically depressed city/state. But the firm I work for has been around for three decades, and they've only let one person go in that entire time. It's been a SLOW week, though.

It's the only series of the last decade that doesn't have back-episodes available. And google auto-fills include "Hard Knocks not on HBO GO" and "Why isn't Hard Knocks available on HBO GO"