Well, we can never agree that there was or wasn't a dearth of talent since I firmly believe it's a coach's job to make UP for talent. And in that sense, even staying with your supposition that talent was extremely lacking on the defensive side of the ball, Wanny's whole scheme was line up and beat the guy in front of you. So, even if we HAD ****ty talent, the scheme itself only COMPOUNDED the problem when, with the right coaching, the problem could have at least been masked. Instead, Wanny lined up the same guys, told them to do the same thing, whether or not it was working (most of the time it was not). So the players looked that much WORSE, thanks to the coach. And therein lies the crux for MY belief that with the right coaching, your claim that it's talent talent talent loses some traction.