OCinBuffalo

I can bring in 1 of 3 people: 1. A chick who is fantasy football ringer. Donwnside: She will kick our asses. She actually knows how to do analytics properly. The modeling she showed me was literally a work of art. As such, she used her fantasy winnings last year to go to Vegas for 5 days. She will talk no schit. Way too nice. But, she will probably smoke us all like cheap cigars. 2. My brother, who is also a ringer. He's watched every 1st quarter of every preseason game this year. The upside here is you haven't seen schit talking until you've seen us go at it. 3. My mom. Total amateur, but she want's to do fantasy in a big way, and you can be sure she's in for the season. The upside is, well, that should be obvious. The downside is of course...this is going to suck for me, as she will answer all questions and embarrass me as much as possible. But, she already has 1 team, and I don't know if she will do another. That's what I have.

If you paid money to attend a preseason game, and before it even starts, while the high school drum corps is playing on the field, you say you "can't wait to see EJ throw his first pick"? The Bills are not your problem. If you can't be bothered to stand up and cheer, when your team, the Buffalo Bills, take their home field for the first time this season? The Bills are not your problem. If you start calling out pass patterns you "know" they are going to run, EJ throws a pick, and you declare yourself "right", and self-congratulate....before realizing that Chandler fell down on a timing pattern, that the ball was thrown exactly where it should have been, and the pattern you "called" isn't even close to being right? (ahem, yes, I'm talking to you, Mr. Y-stick ) The Bills are not your problem. If you are so gullible/affected that I can show you a box score from 4 years ago , that shows the Bills throwing for 10 first downs in the 1st Qtr, and believe me? (my expert trolling ability aside) You have a WGR-->nonsense analytics affectation disorder, and, the Bills are not your problem. You believed me because: "data". My "experiment" shows 1 obvious result: You have become a Pavlovian tool that will believe anything on the internet, especially if it has "analytics" or "data" on the page. But, I don't blame you. There is entirely too much amateur analytics going on in sports today. They know not what they do. They are exactly like children messing about with loaded weapons. Those of us who have been doing this job for years? We do this job for real, but we do it every day. Refuting these amatuerish "analytics conclusions" is a full time job. I have posted when I've had time, and when the "conclusion" (such as "road wins against playoff teams") was egregious. But I can't chase down the entire internet's amatuer "master statisticians". The Bills are not their problem, or your problem. If 5 minutes before half time, you say "you can't wait to hear the rain of boos coming down from the stadium"? Why in the Sam hell would you buy season tickets to something you hate so much? Not only are the Bills not your problem, you're an unmitigated moron. I hear the PGA is looking for fans. Perhaps it's time to admit that your too old for this stuff? When all I can distill from your moronic utterances is the equivalent of "Get off my lawn"? It's time to hang it up. Don't worry, as a fan base, we'll be just fine without your "I knew football in 1985", sorry ass. In closing: things are changing. I know change is difficult. I should know, as I have been bringing change to organizations for quite a few years. Thus, I know that a choice confronts you:delude yourself into believing that this is the team you've seen for the last 10 years, or, embrace the change that is obvious to any objective observer. Only you can make that choice. All I can do? Tell you something I hope is insightful: I made a bet with another Bills fan in my family. I would do 10 pushups for every 3 WR/bubble/pick(3 WR close to each other on one side of the field) formations the Bills ran in the preaseason(and I was right: the one time the did it, they ran the ball the other way out of it!). He has to do 1 pushup for every time they do it in the regular season. I've done my ten pushups, because they did it 1(one) time, last game. I WILL collect on his 100+ pushups this year. And, if you don't understand that bet? The Bills are not your problem.

Ah yes, my new hell, Common Core. I can now count on pissing away 15 minutes of my life on Common Core, per phone call to my mom. The same is true with every other teacher. Recently I had the opportunity to go out with a bunch of people she works with. Being the troll that I am, I waited until I was just about to leave, and then asked "I've been hearing about this Common Core thing, what's the big problem with it?" Then I began my run. A 50 year old woman, otherwise refined in every way, dipped her napkin in her neighbor's beer and threw it at me! Ah, but I can still dodge, and she missed.

When I lived in Chinatown in Philly, I played the occasional Mandarin. Sometimes they even had perfect pitch. Yeah, starting QB for Cleveland pales in comparison to this competition.

They put Greek F'ing columns onstage at the DNC convention. Greek F'ing Columns! They held it at the Denvery Broncos stadium. Oprah was in the crowd, along with the rest of Hollywood, cowtowing like the man was better than the 2nd coming of Jesus, and that none of them were worthy, so the best they all deserved was grass seating. When have these people ever acted that way before or since? Don't be an unmitigated moron. You know damn well that the man was sold as a messiah. Now? He's still competing with Bush? Pathetic. Hilariously pathetic. You all embarrassed yourselves, you oversold, over-marketed and this clod is making you look stupid on a daily basis. Never mind the fact that holding the line in defense of Obama....is creating massive divisions in the Democratic party that will either take 10+ years to fix, or simply destroy it all together. Mark my words. In hindsight, the wiser Democrats will wish they had let Obama ship go down...because the political capital used up to save it has essentially destroyed "activist government"'s viability as a vote getting vehicle. Or, put in terms of your reading level: What is Hillary going to run on? Yeah... That's what I'm talking about. Hillary's only option is to run on reforming the mess Obama/she created. "Vote for me! I'll fix what we broke!" Good luck!

Yeah, and there's always injuries. Last year we ran through CBs and WRs like water. We lost a few close games last year, imho because Stevie was playing hurt, and we didn't have anybody else who could go out there and make a play in the red zone besides Chandler. They doubled him and it was lights out.

Seems to me we have the 3 most important positions on the line relatively locked down? I gotta think that getting the guard positions straightened out is an easier job, but, I'm not O line expert. I heard both interviews and I didn't hear coachspeak. I heard a sort of confidence in the method. I especially picked up on the fact that Marrone talked about not having Mike Williams or Sammy Watkins in for the red zone plays last game. We know why with Watkins....but I'm wondering: was keeping Williams off the field both a way to reduce the film on Williams(in our sets, obviously there's tons of film on him from TB)and/or allow the other WRs a chance to make the team showing what they can do in the red zone? Seems to make sense to me that in a game that doesn't matter, and given a known red zone asset in Williams, you'd want to put the other guys out there.

Which.....is why the "he's only a guard, not a tackle" made the lie believeable. It gave it credibility. That's the point. Buddy used that credibility to effectively convince the media that Glenn was a guard prospect, not a tackle. Don't you remember the "feet may be too slow to play tackle, but he's gonna be a hell of a guard" thing? That's was Buddy, and he said as much. They put "not a LT" out there. And, after the draft, they said they put it out there.

And again, that's the point that is so telling: We were lead to believe that Obama was going to be a HOF president. Now, the very best thing they can say is? "He's better than Bush". And, if we are being truthful, it's, "He's better than Bush at some things" Per the marketing, by now, George W Bush should be so far in Obama's, and the country's rear view as to be totally irrelevant. Bush should merely be "that dude that was here before", because Obama has scored so many wins, and made things so much better. But the reality is any time Democrat brings up Bush, all they succeed in doing is damning Obama further, because they've framed it such that Obama is still COMPETING with Bush, not blowing him away. Obama is competing with a guy who hasn't said a word since he left office, and has written 1 book, and the race is still close? That is hilarious. And, like I said above: it's very telling, in terms of the left's mentality, that right now, their only tenable goal for Obama.... ....is to be better than Bush.

1. He lied. 2. The lie achieved it's intented purpose 3. He came out and explained that he lied, and how that lie achieved its intended purpose. Bifrucation is now your word of the day. Assistance: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/false-dilemma/

Yeah. It's insane to believe a direct quote from Buddy Nix. EDIT: I guess I have to explain that the best lies contain a lot of truth? Examples in current events abound, but I'm not allowed to use any of them on this part of the board. Kelly: just do me a favor, don't buy any land until you've checked with me first, OK?

Buddy came out and literally said it. Was he lying to himself? Do you really think that Walterfootball dot com is any better than Todd McShay....in terms of personally scouting players? Look: if you want to be entertained by all this, that's fine. But, please, let's stop pretending that the draft/mocks/grades by people isn't anything more than a hobby....for everybody that isn't employed by a team to do the job. EDIT: And, yes, "there were a lot of people" who also got their information from the teams, just like the guys I named. Show me names of credible "people" who actually went and saw Cordy Glenn, and scouted him specifically, for more than 2 games...who don't work for a team/freelance as a scout. Also: explain how guys suddenly shoot up/down people's draft boards 10+ spots in the space of a day. Did they see the guy go through the drive-thru at McDonald's/smoke a bowl at an after hours party? No. They talked to a real scout/GM.

Watching my parent's house for a bit. Sister in Boston had a baby, and my mom has insisted on being there for extended periods of time. It's actually 2 stories of stone, fireplace on each level. It's pretty cool, because the guy that built the house designed convection vents into the entire structure. Basically both fireplaces going heats the entire house, sometimes too much. And they live in a forest, so...if you don't mind chopping wood...and you don't care, if the money's no good.

I don't understand this either. Glenn put up Joe Thomas(best in the league) pass blocking #s on PFF last year. I say again: Best LT in the NFL #s last year. For the 1 millionth time: The ONLY reason Cordy Glenn was considered as a guard is because Buddy Nix used his good ole boy connections, and put that lie out there. The Bills fooled the media completely....which is why they gave us so much schit for the Gilmore pick. Just like, they gave us so much schit for the EJ pick. EJ was the ONLY Qb we didn't tell them anything positive about leading up to the draft. Then, we turned around and drafted him. For the 1 billionth time: Guys like Todd McShay and Mel Kiper get their information from teams. They do not do their own scouting to anywhere near they extent they would have to in order to put real grades on players. Teams employ ~10-20 scouts. Think about it: do you really think Mel Kiper is capable of doing to same work as 20 guys? If there were such people, you wouldn't need to hire all those extra dudes. Therefore: it isn't very hard to manipulate the media, especially ESPN, because they don't do the actual souting work themselves. 80% of what they put out comes from whatever the teams tell them. When the teams lie, such as Buffalo has done for the last 3 drafts in a row, it should be obvious that the media will retaliate: on air, just like "Buffalo needed a tackle and the took a CB. Bad move." and "EJ has slow eyes".

Nany Nany. Boo Boo.

I wouldn't be so sure. They'd all have to be on the same page, like they were for Obama. Here, some may be on the Clinton page, some may be on the "anybody but Clinton" page. And, being on the same page has cost them dearly as of today. They have all taken massive credibility hits over Obama. They will remember these hits. Their over-indulged egos will ensure it. Also, they are now exposed, for at least the next 3 elections, to the "you threw the game for Obama" charge. They can't do anything about this exposure, and any R can blow by their D and dunk this on them at any time. Mark my words, as soon as November happens, for the next 2 years the Rs will be dunking on the press over and over. Example: "Yeah (insert media person here), I will take listening to your position on this issue, exactly as serious as you took the vetting of Obama". And it's over. The hole in the D is there, the Rs just have to keep hitting it. If they do, I don't see how yet another "lock step/phony scandal" narrative works for the press-->Cuomo, because it just invites more R attacks. The dumbest right wing radio personality can figure this one out on his own. Surely the smart ones can. Rush Limbaugh will drive a truck through this hole, and hit the media incessantly...because he knows they will protect Hillary. Therefore, they might try and counter all this by abandoning Cuomo.

Tonight = /thread. It's a bad night for the EJ haters. Talking about when he was drafted is now irrelevant.

I wonder....what if she had been? I wonder if Obama would have mobilized half the Marines we have at all the embassies in Europe, since it hardly takes 7 hours to get to Lybia from them. Or, would he have let her twist in the wind, with the rest of the "little people"? Hmm. Probably would have come down to a political calculation, wouldn't it? And, what if by some "miracle" they were able to relieve the compound? If Hillary actually had to endure a fire fight..... I'm pretty sure she'd be a completely different person, and would have immediately crushed any plan dishonoring the soldiers and Marines who had just fought to save her ass, by blaming it on a "spontaneous protest incited by a hateful video". Perhaps not. I mean, look at what she's doing now. All this crapping herself, then making it worse by smearing it around, then making it worse by telling us it's not crap? She's the worst candidate the Ds can run right now. And, her being the ONLY candidate the Ds can run right now just exacerbates the situation. That's why she's saying things like "Their behavior should neither be allowed or enabled". She believes she's already won it all. Exactly like last time. As of right now, 2016 is the Rs election to lose. Yeah. I wonder: are the Ds truly dumb enough to bless us with this? Say what you want about Hillary, at least she's a professional. Fauxcohantus will crack immediately when the real national POTUS media attention/scrutiny gets focused on her. Think about it: she was so inferior, or felt so inferior, as a person, that she felt the need to lie about her heritage? That's damaged goods. No secure/mature person make that call. They have self-respect. They believe in their abilities, and don't seek special attention/indulgence. They take pride in not needing contrived Indian heritage to establish their own credibility.

So are we still discussing the transcendent, post-partisan, post-racial, post-you, because you simply aren't cool/erudite enough to get it, Barack Obama..... in terms of the utter moron, yet smart enough to fool Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, but not Obama, backwards George W Bush? Or....have we now come to terms with the fact that if you have to ask this question at all, given who Barack Obama "is"... your problem most certainly is not George W Bush?

2 things: 1. At this point it has become evident to me that this WH knows they've been tuned out by everyone but their base(2-30% of the country). Therefore, most of what they say is tailored for their base. It doesn't matter if it makes sense. It doesn't matter if it can stand up to scrutiny. All that matters is: are the unmitigated morons getting their daily dose of denial fodder? A few bars ago, I literally had a guy telling me that the reason Obamacare failed was because the Republicans wouldn't pass something that would have worked. I reminded(nicely, IRL I'm a pretty nice guy, until you give me a good reason not to be) him that the Democrats had full control of Congress when Obamacare was passed. My words flew right by him, and he just repeated that the Rs sabotaged Obamacare, and that's why it doesn't work. This is concerning for me. How are we supposed to have real debate, when one side is completely ignorant like this? How many people on the left actually know that Obamacare is 100% owned by the Ds? 2. Due to 1, it seems like they are saying things in a certain way...a specific way of speaking, that they know is best suited for lifting/turning into audio clips and/or quoting, such that it can be mass-deployed by the media.. Example: If you pay attention to Harry Reid saying "The border is secure", you'll notice that he pauses before and after, so that it won't sound like it's been cut off. Then, they take that and mass it out. I heard the sound bite on the radio a few days later. It was perfectly blended in with the announcer's wording before and after. Coincidence?

Well....how come I'm the guy who has work stuff for 5 days and had to be away from all things fun, yet, I come back, I got to the site and find that i'm the third dude to sign up, including Greggy? WTF? Is this going to be one of these "dead by week 4" leagues, or are the rest of you going to get off your lazy asses and spend the 1 whole minute it takes to sign up/do your settings?

Donna Summer?

The above is why I don't understand the WH's approach to this at all. Now, it's the IRS union's turn to take the beating? It seems we won't be done with this until every constituency in the Democratic party has taken a political, and/or real, hit for this. Why? Why are they willing to keep stopping punches with their faces, and why do they keep lining up everybody to take the next punch? How is this the "better" solution? IF they had come clean day 1 this would have been dead for more than a year, and it would have been mostly forgotten in the subsequent elections. Instead: this turns into gallons of bad will, for years on end, FUD, and limitless freedom for the right to cast aspersions on just about everything. This allows the right to raise endless sums of $, email by email, one drop at a time. Moreover, the "dog ate my email" legitimized this story for most of leftist media, who had been treating this like it was pure political hackery. Now their credibility has been damaged as well. Yet another punch stopped by face. The whole thing seems inequitable. The value of refusing to admit wrongdoing is far outweighed...when the wrongdoing becomes a matter of self-evident fact.Why lose so much, so badly, over 1-2 misguided employees, who, once fired/given immunity/whatever, can look forward to book $, a nice comfortable do-nothing job at somebody's political payoff "strategy" firm? There's no rational explanation for being willing to take this much of a political beating...for being "loyal" to a WH lawyer, and a few bad IRS employees. You can bet the IRS is going to be an negative issue for the Ds for the next 3 elections at least. What is worth allowing that to happen? That's why I've always thought that there had to be more people involved in this. Protecting them, either IS worth the political beating, or, they are powerful enough to command the protection personally(um, Valerie Jarrett? ). In all cases, there's no way this makes sense.

I know this QA chick who keeps saying she deserves a spanking. Not all the time, but she does consistently insert it into everyday prattle. Ex: "I cut this guy off today driving in to work. Oh, I should be spanked hard for that one", then, obligatory giggle. "If i don't do X, I'm gonna get spanked". "We will have X done in time for Y, or you can come over and whip us." I struggle with "does she really want a spanking(or, given the # of times she says it, iterative spankings?)" or, "is she just saying that to project the image and use it as a diversion to get what she wants", or, "am I over-thinking a mere figure of speech"? Small thing, but still, interesting. Now, now, Tom. Use your words. Oh....wait... Just in case anyone required clarification on the term "leftist hack", Gene has seen fit to provide it unsolicited.

6 fracking pages, and..... 1. Not one person has explained what the "political implcations" are for Pegula, the fracker, owning the Bills. How hilarious...for me. Not one of the leftist hacks* was able to argue against the basic substance: There are no political implications. The only reason anyone would say that? They don't like fracking, and, they have an irrational need to insert their objection to fracking into a conversation about owning a football team. Not one poster has refuted that, largely because: it cannot be refuted. *(boy, ain't it funny how that term, intentionally used, did such a fine job of attracting: leftist hacks? Some of them even copped to being leftist hacks as the first thing they said! I knew this would work. For the dim: If a poster responded to this politically, in any way, by defintion, they are a leftist hack. A non-leftist hack sees no need to respond to the charge...because he isn't one. How funny is it that they self-identified? All as designed, of course. Simpletons. And, hey leftist hacks? Too F'ing bad if you don't like it. As your assclown agenda is F'ing the entire country up, you simply deserve to be disrespected.) 2. Once again, yesterday, I heard Bullclown bring up fracking. Once again, I ask, what does fracking have to do with Buffalo Bills football? 3. Once again, we see turd after turd be unable to conceive of this very simple concept: You don't bring up fracking during a sports show by accident. You plan to bring up fracking, because you have a leftist hack agenda. I'm simply tired of the John Stewart/"I'm going to hide behind having an unserious media job, so I can run my political agenda unfettered" nonsense. And in closing: PPP was getting boring. Too many on one side, not enough smart people, and, if I have to endure one more thread of "let's all compete over who can be the cleverest with gatorman"....when none of it is very clever at all, and, I remind you: gatorman. ? F that. I haven't been back since I posted this thread...work...but, I'm guessing we may have some new PPP toys to play with perhaps, given my perfectly justifiable, and disclaimed even....dangle? ? No. ? Yes. You can all thank me later.