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Stroud...is a cool guy. I hung out with him and Spencer Johnson for an hour in a bar. I just walked into it, literally. I wish him luck, but I think he's done. And, isn't Hargrove the the crazy guy? Not "Ray Lewis" crazy, but, "why is that guy dancing in that dumpster at 3 am? Hmm, he looks sober too." crazy?

This was the one, and only, situation where the Eagle fans were prescient: McNabb was the problem, not TO. If they watched as many of their games as I had the unfortunate circumstance to, "everyone" would know that you were being prescient as well.

Oh good lord. If this isn't the definition of a smoke screen, or trying to build up the value of the pick in the media, and get dopey fans to buy it, what is? The Cleveland GM isn't even trying to hide it: "Well, you know, everybody's doing QB nowadays...don't you wanna try some QB? No, don't worry, nothing bad can happen your first time. If you trade up for QB just this one time, but you don't like it, you don't have to do it again". Yeah, he's as transparent as a drug dealer.

Shady McCoy and Ron Mexico. Is that an offensive backfield, or characters in a 70's western? Or porn? Or 70's western porn?

If they had, you'd be right there, hitting them with the idiot thing, and ruining my chance to troll them along.

Ahhh.....but you are sans conner, and dare I say, Molson_Golden, so it ain't that bad. PS. you also aren't stuck with Bildo, who, if he were here, would remind you that janitors don't get to sit on message boards during work hours, and that you should go to Denny's so you too can talk with them. (Cripes, does nobody remember that guy?)

Just read it Pasta Salad: "I was cold, alone, and without table space on which to be set. And yet you continue to joke about it and ridicule. This is what we cold salads have to deal with everyday! No one ever takes us seriously! One day, we will unite, and there will be entire tables reserved just for us - the cold picnic salads. You just wait... ." Edit: What's the odds on njsue being an Obama supporter?

Everybody understands a scoreboard in the USA. Saying otherwise = "Are you trying to tell me Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball?" I have no idea why I said that. But it came to mind when I thought about shallow idiots, etc.

Ah crap, I knew this was ambiguous when I wrote it, I even tried to edit it. Fail. I meant that, seeing as Chef claimed IP rights in the Retatta thread itself, that he was asserting said rights here. Like I said, fail. Now, regarding Chef's happiness: oh please, you have a wife who likes candles and like you can't find your way to a bottle of good wine, especially where you are. Why can't you hire some janitor or volunteer firemen to deliver it to you? Regarding Pasta Salad Thread: I am with Chef.

I closed my eyes and guessed Canadians or some permutation of "head bouncing down stairs". Looks like the first one was right. Look, can't you let the Canadians be in the news? Believe me, it reduces their inferiority complex, and thus makes attending Sabres games a lot easier. There's far fewer inappropriate Canadian demands that we pay attention to their thoughts on economics and politics in the pisser, if they get their dosage of relevance on schedule.

I think he meant to say RetattaTM Retatta is a Registered Trade Mark of Chef Jim* *There, ya happy?

"Why would you vote for a guy, who can't even lead his own party, never mind unite the country? Obama's budget votes: 414-0. 97-0. Zero. Why would you vote for another 0?" See, I can do it too. No, I do understand. Even the biggest mouthbreather understands 0.

...of all places. Yes, Nancy Pelosi voted against Obama's budget. And, Romeny is supposed to be afraid of this clown and his clown advisers? Did anybody see Brett Baier figuratively punch Axelrod in the face and eat his whole lunch in front of him, when he asked him why the Senate hasn't passed a budget in 3 years? And, now, this? Last time the Senate voted on an Obama budget it was 97-0 against. Does anyone realize, that if we lived in some EU craptastic state....the election would be happening right now, not in November, because these are the biggest "no-confidence" votes there are. You can't get worse than....0 The fun part is how they try to play it off: "Well, it's only the numbers....not the policies". I have been laughing at what the 3rd string press secretary lady said ever since I heard it. Then, I began wondering if that's why the main guy wasn't there....no sense in getting your starter pummeled. The political = of starting the #2 goalie for a road game you aren't likely to win. They brought in the Amerks goalie to take the beating. Yes, douchebag lady, budgets have nothing to do #s.... I can't imagine a dimmer response. But, these political people dare, DARE, to talk schit about Romney and his crew being weak? Obama and his team have some serious work to do if they hope to have any chance. Serious work.

I'm not concerned about something so predictable, that if you told me these events would happen at any point since Obama was elected, I could have written every single headline word for word. I could have also told who would have shown up, what they would say....etc. So, again, not concerning. Surprises bother me. Nothing is surprising about anything in this case, so again, I ask, where's the debate? I haven't opened that thread, and I refuse. There's hardly anything in there that I don't already know. It's not worth 1 page, never mind 20. The fact is that Obama stuck his nose in there, just like Media Matters attacked Limbaugh, to distract from just how bad things are going for both of them. And, also predictably, both actions have completely backfired. Now, if there are riots, they will be laid at Odumbass's feet. What an idiot. It's like he can't help himself. But, rest assured, I don't feel sorry for him, and I won't stop laughing at him. And, media matters is being scoffed at, rather than feared, and there's a lot of us doing the scoffing. What is concerning about the left getting the diametric opposite result they intended. This schit happens all the time

All me. Been saying it for at least 10 years. Imagine my surprise that events have continued to follow this pattern. Perfect example: they have Tom Delay. We have Paul Ryan. End of discussion.....for the reasonable. EDIT: Oh, and who's our Jane Fonda?

I'm with you on this one. As if we don't know who is going to say what before they say it, and, as if we don't know what happened, who screwed up, who's taking advantage, who is trying to make/raise money on the back of this, and, most importantly, that the right solution is already in place and already producing the expected results. What's left to debate? Edit: And, yeah, Media Matters looks more petty, and incompetent, every day that goes by. They haven't quite reached the laughable stage yet, but they are well on their way. F'ing with Limbaugh....pathetic. These clowns couldn't take down Mark Levin, yet they shoot way higher, and wonder why they fail. Radio stations and their sponsors have been making way too much money, for way too many DECADES off Limbaugh to take whatever these pissants have to say seriously.

Poll. What is the least shocking thing about this thread? A. That it is yet another in a long line of single subject threads from DaveInElma. One might even call it a "remedial enterprise undertaken with zeal and enthusiasm". (Google that, then click your heels 3 times and say...mod) B. A DiE threat that is about black guys winning, instead of losing....well, aren't they? C. That DC_Tom is compelled to hit the easy target, again, without seeing the potential for humor. (BTW, Nanker? Nice ) D. That 3rdnlng is still butthurt from some new thrashing DC_Tom must have given him in some other thread(s) nobody remembers, but is now reminding us of that thrashing, or inviting us to assume it, by chasing Tom in, of all things, a DiE thread. .............................. B. is my answer. B is for Because. For years the Irish were in control of the police and fire, the Italians the garbage, etc. As each ethnic group has raised itself up, at one time they dominated some public sector thing or another, and I don't think we get very far pretending that they weren't corrupt, incompetent, etc. Now, the blacks are in charge of buses, and, given that this historically means they are on the way up...and not staying where they are, which costs us all a lot of money in taxes and crime....this is a bad thing (B for) BECAUSE? Most shocking thing: GG attempting troll activity??? Hmmmmm.

Data....crap. Whole thing crap?...maybe not. Here's one thing that isn't. Let's do a timeline...like we did in 5th grade history class: 1960-1979 Boomers demand education, child care, welfare, Medicaid $ from the government. Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford Carter, pass successive bills and respond. More people go to college than ever. Now, they need the government, and of course it should do things that the baby boomers need. Who cares if it starts the first budget deficit? 1980-1990 Now that Boomers all have jobs, and are starting their careers/families, they don't want to pay taxes. Reagan is elected, followed by Bush. Taxes are cut to record lows. Now, they don't need the government, and of course it should stay out of our lives, but, we should win the cold war, even though we were against the Vietnam War, because now we have kids/money/something to lose. Budget deficits increases...but they don't matter, right, baby boomers? 1990-2000 Now it's time for the Boomer's kids to go to college, and/or it's time to invest in things(like the internet) because now they have money and/or now I'm divorced and in a dead end job. Boomer needs more government education money to get out of this mess. Amazingly despite low moral character(remind you of anyone there, boomer?), Clinton is elected, education spending, especially ADULT education(ahem, Boomer education), is massively increased, and all sorts of financial regulation is removed. Deficit is still a problem, and nothing is done, because our internet stocks are doing well. Oh, and we don't mind if your taxes go up...until, wait now WE have become rich so.... 2000-2007 Bush is elected. Even against all expectation, and political sanity, Al Gore doesn't get the nod he should have gotten. You can blame cigars, but, really? The baby boomer's kids are now out of college. And, it's time to cut taxes again, because "we don't need the government in our lives"(anymore). We are trying to save up for retirement. Now cut taxes and keep them that way, despite 2 wars and Medicare silliness. 2007...uh, oh, pee pee hurts...getting old...time to beat the weakened President into giving me free scripts at Rite Aid, and elect a guy who will give me even more health care stuff, or whatever else I want. And yeah, I remember being a hippie....so yeah....the government should "help" people....even though I have have made everything I have based on Capitalism...we owe it to ourselves and "the movement" to elect a black guy because he's black...it's our last "sacred" good deed before we die, because we remember the 60s! Deficit isn't our fault, it's those damn Gen X kids(who have basically endured our awful parenting, decisions, and behavior, and have been able to thrive in spite of it). Oh wait, we can't talk schit about Gen X because the facts don't support any of it. Soooo, let's get on somebody else! Gen Y! Millienials! Anybody to deflect attention off of how crappy our stewardship of this country has been. When boomers were in school, JFK talked about going to the moon, and when we got there it was all they could talk about. Now that their grandchildren are in school, we don't even have a manned system, and all they will talk about is their Medicare. All a coincidence?

Nope. I'm just a guy who knows a potential loser political issue, or a stupid opinion based solely on ulterior motives or emotion, when I see one. I also know a winner when I see one. And, I didn't start the name calling on this issue. Besides, given what we know now, "alarmist" is a fairly accurate way to define these people. We might use the word "conspirator". But, that wouldn't be a fair way to characterize all of them. Some, I am sure, are honest. Too many, are not. Come now, Frenkle, you and your "team", from 2005- June of 2009(then it was , hide) had no problem polluting this board with nonsense, and then calling us all sorts of terrible names, questioning our integrity, sanity, intelligence, etc. The bill for that behavior has come due. As I have already done with the: "Ralph is Cheap" "we could have traded down/up(because somebody said it on the Internet)" "Adalius Thomas and Junior Seau = Pats SBs for the next 3 years!" "everything Bill Belechick does is awesome(except his last 5 drafts and a boatload of FA decisions)" "The Surge won't work(because I said so, while having no military background whatsoever)" "Obama means an end to all war" "The Sabres should trade Miller/Miller isn't a good goalie(who then proceeded to win the Vezina)" "GITMO WILL be closed in the first year" "We have to hurry up and elect the Democrats in 2006 because they will immediately do all kinds of great things(but then blame Bush for them doing literally nothing)" "It's Bush's fault that we haven't passed a budget.....wait....oh yeah, Obama has been in office 3 years, 2 of which we had complete control of Congress, and we haven't passed a budget...so...never mind. Hey, did anybody see that Bears game on Sunday?" and, now, "Global Warming is man-made(because I read it on the Internet)", I am here to collect the bill. Not that I expect you to pay it, but, to your credit, at least you are willing to show up here. It's not compulsive, but it is highly entertaining to watch you continue to embarrass yourselves. Speaking of political winners and losers, given the benefit of hindsight(although I didn't require it at the time)....how should we now categorize the following? "Gay Marriage" "Global Warming" "Cap and Trade" "The Stimulus" "How Obamacare was passed-->by denying the will of the people in Massachusetts, who elected a friggin Repub to Teddy Kennedy's seat to stop you" "The Surge" "Drone Strikes" "GITMO" "Obamacare contraception regulation" "Obamacare individual mandate" "Obamacare 2700 pages, nobody in Congress bothered to read, that a supreme court justice won't even assign to his clerks, who are by definition supposed to be hazed" Look at that list....and that's just the big stuff. Lots of losers there, that could have been winners, depending on how they were played. In each instance, the far-left CHOSE the unmitigated moron's approach, and did more damage to their position than good. In that process they also destroyed the careers and stripped the Democratic party of almost all of their elected moderates at both the Federal and state level, and therefore, every chance of being in power for 20 years, or until the Republicans make another massive mistake. Great plan, enjoy the wait. Now, does that make me a partisan? Or, more likely, is this simply too much objectivity for your delicate sensibilities to handle? Don't misunderstand: "If you want something done right...put the far left in charge of doing the opposite", is not a saying. That's a historical, objective observation of the far left's activity since 2003, when it first became clear that the Iraq war was a major political problem.

Yet, it doesn't matter whether you are reimbursed for your costs, or not, because you don't know your cost of doing business per patient, per day, week, minute, whatever. There is 0 indication that paying you for every single patient will stop your costs from increasing, or induce the customer to look for a provider who has the lower costs. The only problem with the first part is: it can't work because you don't know what your real costs are. Estimated or otherwise. Sure you can haul in a crate of milk to a unit, and a week later see that crate empty, and then financially allocate the cost of that milk to the unit and divide by the # of patients there that week....but that's ridiculous, right? That tells us very little about cost, and no more than next week's data, or the week's before. Six months of that data tells us less than nothing. How exactly are you going to itemize the milk consumed, and everything else you do for them, from admit to discharge, and then apply that to a single patient's high deductible...based on what you have financially allocated to the entire unit, or department for that matter? I am sorry, but charging somebody for 2.3 cartons of milk, when they only had 1 = EPIC FAIL. You better hire 3x the staff in your finance department, just to deal with the bill disputes, if this is your plan. The 4% vs. 30% is a myth propagated by the friggin' West Wing. It's perhaps the single largest apples to oranges comparison in politics. Look, I know what's wrong with how the average insurance company does business. This is not part of that. One, there are others, of their root cause issues is their inability to know whether you are ripping them off or not, because they don't know what your costs are either, so, they keep raising their rates just in case. It all comes down to nobody in the entire industry being able to say, with consistent certainty, what the cost of taking care of Mrs. Jones was yesterday, today, and certainly not tomorrow. And, I have news: sinking another $640 billion into clinical software, whose design is fundamentally incapable of telling you what you need to know, because it is fundamentally designed from the top-down, and fundamentally designed around protocols and plans, and not actual activity, is just about the dumbest idea there is. Edit: Oh, I forgot, making sure one hospital can tell another out-of-market hospital or insurance company, that it has no idea what the cost of taking care of their member was....doesn't help much either. It's great to know that somebody is allergic to penicillin, but it doesn't move the ball at all in terms of managing the business.

Argument? This argument is over, politically. Don't tell me you too dumb to see that. (Anybody interested in some action on this? I am setting the line at 3/1 against Frenkle getting it) And, my consistent demonstration of your feeble-mindedness doesn't make me a narcissist, it simply makes you feeble-minded. The fact that I keep reminding you of your inferiority...yeah, I can see where that could make me a narcissist. But really, it just makes me what I am: a wiseass. Now, objectively, and scientifically, a lot remains to be seen. As many of us have said from the start, we have a lot more to learn. We still do. I take this as seriously as Iran getting a nuclear weapon. It's no different than any CREDIBLE threat for me, and I am sure, for most people. However, the only denying that is happening here is the alarmist scientists, UN people, and political operatives denying that they were either complacent, or active participants, in making this a political weapon, without the science to back it up. They got caught, repeatedly, and now it's a political liability. They got caught because, for all their self-ascribed intellectual superiority, the reality is that they are prideful and stupid. Massively so. Again, if you want something done right....put the far left in charge of doing the opposite.

hehehehehe Frenkle! What, you don't like people attacking your precious near-religion unfairly? Well, that's interesting, because you and your pals have been attacking everyone unfairly, not just "deniers", but people whose minds are still open, since the beginning of all of this. You created the "rules" for discourse on this issue. Now, you are crying when people follow your rules and don't take a measured approach in their criticism? hahahahahahh

This is an argument FOR the Laffer curve, not against it. The simple truth here is: the proper way to look at the tax rate is as a variable, and not a constant, and, a variable that should be adjusted yearly, if not quarterly. For the prattling idiot in the NY times, this concept seems to be too difficult to comprehend. We need to be looking for leaders who can understand this concept, and hold them to moving it up and down based on what makes the most sense for the economy, period. By demanding that the tax rates be returned to Clinton era, and fixed there, the Democrat is making the contrapositive argument of the Republican's argument, who he calls names and calls wrong. (Hint: contrapositive is the logical equivalent...morons. ) High/low tax rates are never always good, or always bad. Rather, they are means to an end. If you are a Democrat, they are a means to justify continued ridiculous spending. If you are a Republican, they are means to attack said ridiculous spending, and curry favor with high end donors. Absolutist thinking on this has to end. And, what is it going to take, honestly?, what is it going to take to get this concept through thick skulls: Even if we taxed every millionaire and billionaire at 100% of their incomes and capital gains.....we will NOT balance the budget. The only way to balance the budget is to CUT....SPENDING....MORONS! Talking about the tax rate is a DISTRACTION. It is intended to distract you away from the sentence above. The question is: are you dumb enough to be distracted? And, the next question is: even if the sentence above weren't true, and it was possible to balance the budget/reduce the deficit via increasing the tax rate, would the Democrats live within that balanced budget, or would they increase spending again? Like we don't know the answer to that one.....

(66) How is that possible? And, I wonder what happens if we know that Jimmie Johnson is both? These conclusions about me are wrong. I watch next to 0 TV. I watch tons of movies. Living in bad neighborhoods and being in poverty were choices I have made subject to the type of work I do. Other than that I have never lived in anything less than upper middle class neighborhoods, also by choice, or parents. Lifelong resident? Retarded. I've barely been a year-long resident...of anywhere. They shouldn't make ASSumptions about consultants and start-up guys. We don't fit into the world view of college professors, and certainly not political ones. Therefore, we don't fit into their analyses of the raw data of this survey. We might as well not exist for them. Archetypes? When you need to get requirements from 100+ $10-20/hr claims processors, mortgage processors, public utility crews, etc., you can twiddle around talking about archetypes and get fired, or, you can find a way to relate to them in the next 5 minutes and get your job done. I can just see some poor fool going to my first project manager and saying "I wasn't able to get it...because I wasn't raised in a working-class neighborhood". No. If we came from rich, poor, middle, it mattered not. We were all subject to the same "STFU with that! Find a f'ing way to do it...by lunch!" standard answer. Always, by lunch...and we actually did...most of the time. This is buffoonery for us. Perhaps these professors should consider if they are living in a bubble.

Hey, you can't blame a troll for trolling. And you can't blame an "older" poster for attempting, and failing miserably, to haze rookies.